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  • M Michael P Butler

    Bah. A wishy, washy bunch of pretenders :-D 1. Captain James T Kirk - The Captain of the Enterprise, except no subsititues 2. Buck Rogers (The 70s version) - James Bond in space. Nuff said. 3. Yoda - Small, green and funny looking frog, but will kick your ass if you call him that to his face. 4. Starbuck (The 70s version) - Kicking Cylon arse whilst smoking a cigar - class 5. Avon (From Blakes 7) - You couldn't trust him, but you'd want him on your side. 6. Servalan (again from Blakes 7) - The ultimate in Sci-Fi sex-appeal (at least she was when I was 10) 7. Doctor Who - More faces than Tony Blair but actually helps the people who need it the most 8. Senator Palpatine - runs both sides of a galaxy wide war and nobody figures it out. Genius. 9. Spock - His blood may be green but his best mate is Captain Kirk, so he's alright in my book 10. Princess Leia - Gold Bikini, what more do I have to say :-D Michael CP Blog [^] Development Blog [^]

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    Men

    1. Captain Picard or Yoda (for leadership and calmness)
    2. Data or Spock (for brains)
    3. Scotty, Geordi or Miles O'Brian (for fixing stuff)
    4. Worf - ST:TNG/DS9 (To Picard: If you were any other man, I would kill you were you stand.) (Anyone who's willing to kill his Captain must be worth it.)

    Women

    1. Seven of Nine - ST:V (All hail the queen).
    2. Ro Laren - ST:TNG (She had the best female character of all.)
    3. Borg Queen - ST:TNG (The original who went on to seduce Data.)
    4. Kes - ST:V (Petite, cute and comes in travelling size.)
    5. Maya - Space 1999 (The eyes.)
    6. Jane - V (Jane Badler) (If Freddy Kreuger had a girlfriend, she would be it.)
    7. Julie - V (Faye Grant) (The doctor is in. Although Dr. Crusher was up there too.)

    "If only one person knows the truth, it is still the truth." - Mahatma Gandhi Web - Blog - RSS - Math

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      Okay, lots of rancour and argument in the Soapbox. How about a debate on the top ten sci-fi characters (human or, as an alternative, not human). I select the following: 1: Neo: cos he's so far up his own arse he may as well be an alien. 2: Alien: Grrr. 3: Jean-Luc Picard: Pretentious git. 4: Frank Poole: stupid cunt. 5: Adama: who thinks up these names anyway? 6: Gort: Shoulda been in charge :-) 7: Darth Vader: should have let him keep Prowse's voice. 8: Everyone in Solaris (any version): could this have been any more boring... 9: Jodie Foster: wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong. 10: Luke Skywalker: just because he suffers form small-man sydrome.

      The true price of freedom is war.

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      Michael A Barnhart
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      legalAlien wrote: as an alternative, not human I just keep on seeing those giant insects from the 50's B-movies that were mutated from atomic radiation. I do not mind getting old. It beats all the other options that I can think of.

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      • L legalAlien

        D'ya know I can't handle this any more. I don't even like you but I keep having to agree with you. Don't you find it just a tad irritating that a tosser like me keeps agreeing with a wanker (compounded because you live in Europe) like you?

        The true price of freedom is war.

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        It is getting scary. There I was, pissing everyone off with comments about traders being part of the system that caused the Iraq war, and now, we are agreeing on stuff. Perhaps, if I had posted my comments about the traders a month or two later you might have agreed with me too! Nunc est bibendum!

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        • M Michael P Butler

          Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote: Ouch. Kirk sucked man. Picard out-classed and out-smarted him all the time. That's the difference between a three year season and a seven year one. Hell, even Sisko and Janeway were better than Kirk. You may have an arguement that Picard could stand his own against Kirk (although 'Generations' rather muddies that a little), but there is no way in hell that Janeway was better than Kirk. Kirk wouldn't have taken seven years to get home and he wouldn't have had a house-trained Borg on his ship :-D As for Sisko, he was a good guy but in the end he got his head turned by all that Bajoran spiritual crap and it got him killed. Kirk would have saved the day and got the girl :-D Michael CP Blog [^] Development Blog [^]

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          Bassam Abdul Baki
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          Actually, Kirk always fired at will and Spock saved the day. So if Kirk somehow managed to find a way back in less than seven years, it would be because of bad acting. Parumpum. :-D As for the house-trained Borg, can you honestly find any fault with that? Resistance is futile. :-D Sisko never died. He turned out to be a half-god and went to live with his other race. Would have been nice to know more about them. But oh well. DS9 was a bit too slow to begin with, but since Worf came on they picked up speed with the Dominion wars. Heard a new movie is in the works before Kirks time centralling on the Romulan wars. "If only one person knows the truth, it is still the truth." - Mahatma Gandhi Web - Blog - RSS - Math

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          • M Michael A Barnhart

            legalAlien wrote: as an alternative, not human I just keep on seeing those giant insects from the 50's B-movies that were mutated from atomic radiation. I do not mind getting old. It beats all the other options that I can think of.

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            Bassam Abdul Baki
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            Tremors was my favorite. Especially Michael Gross's character. "If only one person knows the truth, it is still the truth." - Mahatma Gandhi Web - Blog - RSS - Math

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              Men

              1. Captain Picard or Yoda (for leadership and calmness)
              2. Data or Spock (for brains)
              3. Scotty, Geordi or Miles O'Brian (for fixing stuff)
              4. Worf - ST:TNG/DS9 (To Picard: If you were any other man, I would kill you were you stand.) (Anyone who's willing to kill his Captain must be worth it.)

              Women

              1. Seven of Nine - ST:V (All hail the queen).
              2. Ro Laren - ST:TNG (She had the best female character of all.)
              3. Borg Queen - ST:TNG (The original who went on to seduce Data.)
              4. Kes - ST:V (Petite, cute and comes in travelling size.)
              5. Maya - Space 1999 (The eyes.)
              6. Jane - V (Jane Badler) (If Freddy Kreuger had a girlfriend, she would be it.)
              7. Julie - V (Faye Grant) (The doctor is in. Although Dr. Crusher was up there too.)

              "If only one person knows the truth, it is still the truth." - Mahatma Gandhi Web - Blog - RSS - Math

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              Michael P Butler
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              Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote: Jane - V (Jane Badler) (If Freddy Kreuger had a girlfriend, she would be it.) Yum. I'd forgotten about Diana. She was wonderfully sexy and evil. A Servalan for the 80's. Michael CP Blog [^] Development Blog [^]

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              • L Lost User

                Oh come on now, without looking at the wealth of films philip k dick spawned! Surely blade runner, total recal, running man? Nunc est bibendum!

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                Stan Shannon
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                fat_boy wrote: Oh come on now, without looking at the wealth of films philip k dick spawned! I was never a big Dick fan ( :laugh: I can't believe I wrote that, but I bet I'm not the first) Anyway, Blade Runner was done well, it is certainly one of my favorists, but paints such a bleak and non-redeemable future that it kind of leaves me depressed. I like a happy ending. Most of the rest of his stuff just doesn't translate well to the screen, IMO. I didn't like total recall or the running man at all. "Capitalism is the source of all true freedom."

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                  Okay, lots of rancour and argument in the Soapbox. How about a debate on the top ten sci-fi characters (human or, as an alternative, not human). I select the following: 1: Neo: cos he's so far up his own arse he may as well be an alien. 2: Alien: Grrr. 3: Jean-Luc Picard: Pretentious git. 4: Frank Poole: stupid cunt. 5: Adama: who thinks up these names anyway? 6: Gort: Shoulda been in charge :-) 7: Darth Vader: should have let him keep Prowse's voice. 8: Everyone in Solaris (any version): could this have been any more boring... 9: Jodie Foster: wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong. 10: Luke Skywalker: just because he suffers form small-man sydrome.

                  The true price of freedom is war.

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                  Has to be Kirk. There wasn't an alien he couldn't kill or shag or shag then kill.

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                  • L Lost User

                    Prowse was from the west country. Imagine that, 'may the force be being with you boy' Hmm, no wonder they got a voice over. Nunc est bibendum!

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                    David Wulff
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                    I disagree. If he was truely a west country boy he would have said, "may the force be with you my lover". ;P


                    Ðavid Wulff Audioscrobbler :: flickr Die Freiheit spielt auf allen Geigen (QT)

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                    • L Lost User

                      It is getting scary. There I was, pissing everyone off with comments about traders being part of the system that caused the Iraq war, and now, we are agreeing on stuff. Perhaps, if I had posted my comments about the traders a month or two later you might have agreed with me too! Nunc est bibendum!

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                      legalAlien
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                      fat_boy wrote: Perhaps, if I had posted my comments about the traders a month or two later you might have agreed with me too! Now you're pushing it. ;)

                      The true price of freedom is war.

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                      • S Stan Shannon

                        fat_boy wrote: Oh come on now, without looking at the wealth of films philip k dick spawned! I was never a big Dick fan ( :laugh: I can't believe I wrote that, but I bet I'm not the first) Anyway, Blade Runner was done well, it is certainly one of my favorists, but paints such a bleak and non-redeemable future that it kind of leaves me depressed. I like a happy ending. Most of the rest of his stuff just doesn't translate well to the screen, IMO. I didn't like total recall or the running man at all. "Capitalism is the source of all true freedom."

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                        Thats the great thing about 50s and 60s scifi, it is a social commentary as much as a technical showcase. OK clarke and asimov were more technical. You are correct in the respect that running man and total recall were more powerful as books, and the fact that arnie turns it into a joke. Nunc est bibendum!

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                          I disagree. If he was truely a west country boy he would have said, "may the force be with you my lover". ;P


                          Ðavid Wulff Audioscrobbler :: flickr Die Freiheit spielt auf allen Geigen (QT)

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                          "'ere where's my light sabre to" Nunc est bibendum!

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                            Thats the great thing about 50s and 60s scifi, it is a social commentary as much as a technical showcase. OK clarke and asimov were more technical. You are correct in the respect that running man and total recall were more powerful as books, and the fact that arnie turns it into a joke. Nunc est bibendum!

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                            legalAlien
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                            What about Forbidden Planet? Great film (as are most that are based on Shakespeare). Hey, the Globe are gong to show Troillus and Cressida in the origial accent. I offered to take my wife and the second thing she said to me was off. I don't get it.

                            The true price of freedom is war.

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                              What about Forbidden Planet? Great film (as are most that are based on Shakespeare). Hey, the Globe are gong to show Troillus and Cressida in the origial accent. I offered to take my wife and the second thing she said to me was off. I don't get it.

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                              'in the origial accent' That'll be an american one then. Nunc est bibendum!

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                                'in the origial accent' That'll be an american one then. Nunc est bibendum!

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                                legalAlien
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                                Yes indeedy. Apparently a rough mixture of Norfolk and Bristol (since that's where most of the original emigrants left from) with a healthy dose of Scottish. Och Ay the noo. Some of the jokes actually make sense if you hear them in the original dialect (not accent) and if you take care to fnd out what some slang terms of the time were. Am I pretentious or what?

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                                  Okay, lots of rancour and argument in the Soapbox. How about a debate on the top ten sci-fi characters (human or, as an alternative, not human). I select the following: 1: Neo: cos he's so far up his own arse he may as well be an alien. 2: Alien: Grrr. 3: Jean-Luc Picard: Pretentious git. 4: Frank Poole: stupid cunt. 5: Adama: who thinks up these names anyway? 6: Gort: Shoulda been in charge :-) 7: Darth Vader: should have let him keep Prowse's voice. 8: Everyone in Solaris (any version): could this have been any more boring... 9: Jodie Foster: wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong. 10: Luke Skywalker: just because he suffers form small-man sydrome.

                                  The true price of freedom is war.

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                                  Ian Darling
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                                  Wib wib wib wib wib.


                                  Ian Darling The world is a thing of utter inordinate complexity ... that such complexity can arise ... out of such simplicity ... is the most fabulous extraordinary idea ... once you get some kind of inkling of how that might have happened - it's just wonderful ... the opportunity to spend 70 or 80 years of your life in such a universe is time well spent as far as I am concerned - Douglas Adams

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                                    Wib wib wib wib wib.


                                    Ian Darling The world is a thing of utter inordinate complexity ... that such complexity can arise ... out of such simplicity ... is the most fabulous extraordinary idea ... once you get some kind of inkling of how that might have happened - it's just wonderful ... the opportunity to spend 70 or 80 years of your life in such a universe is time well spent as far as I am concerned - Douglas Adams

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                                    David Wulff
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                                    Damn you Ian, you have planted a seed in the Friday-afternoon-non-productive part of my brain that will require me to watch an entire series of Futurama on DVD tonight before my craving will be satisfied. Not that I'm complaining mind you. :cool:


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                                      Damn you Ian, you have planted a seed in the Friday-afternoon-non-productive part of my brain that will require me to watch an entire series of Futurama on DVD tonight before my craving will be satisfied. Not that I'm complaining mind you. :cool:


                                      Ðavid Wulff Audioscrobbler :: flickr Die Freiheit spielt auf allen Geigen (QT)

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                                      Ian Darling
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                                      David Wulff wrote: Not that I'm complaining mind you. I may be doing something similar myself :-)


                                      Ian Darling The world is a thing of utter inordinate complexity ... that such complexity can arise ... out of such simplicity ... is the most fabulous extraordinary idea ... once you get some kind of inkling of how that might have happened - it's just wonderful ... the opportunity to spend 70 or 80 years of your life in such a universe is time well spent as far as I am concerned - Douglas Adams

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                                        Yes indeedy. Apparently a rough mixture of Norfolk and Bristol (since that's where most of the original emigrants left from) with a healthy dose of Scottish. Och Ay the noo. Some of the jokes actually make sense if you hear them in the original dialect (not accent) and if you take care to fnd out what some slang terms of the time were. Am I pretentious or what?

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                                        Damn it, I was going to say north carolina and then I looked it upo on the internet, yes, it says it will sound like north carolinan american. All those words, like trash, diaper, gotten. They all fell out of fashion in english over the years. Also, the difference between ensure and insure is a 19th century UK creation, so the US just uses insure. (Lots of UK english literatute from the early 19th c uses insure only). When I worked in the voice recognition business we used to sell irish people american language dictionaries. It was quicker to adapt a US dictionary than a UK one for to an Irsh speaker. It is a little like the swiss who live in venezuela. They have frozen the swissness they took with them, the customs and dress, and so, today, while switzerland has changed, they have kept the original. The same with the US and UK. The US is quite 'old fashioned' compared to the UK. Nunc est bibendum!

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                                        • L legalAlien

                                          Michael P Butler wrote: Riker was just an annoying, smirking smug git. Mind you if I was shagging Troi, then I think I'd do a little bit of smirking too. (Although personally I preferred Tasha, even though she had a taste for androids ) I actually laughed out loud at this. Yes, I am only extracting urine with my comments and am being deliberatly (where I can be) contentious cos I'm hyper over a rollout that starts in 1 hour. I always thought (until Enterprise) that TNG was the best Star Trek and Kirk the best captain. I don't have an opinion on Bakula but loved the series. We get the finale next Tuesday on Sky and I particularly liked the 2 episodes that took place in an alternate universe: those stories always alow them to get a bit more dark and visceral than the normal, morally over stocked episodes. Tra-la: just an opinion.

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                                          legalAlien wrote: I am only extracting urine with my comments Oops, I'll try to fall for that next time ;P The tigress is here :-D

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