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Houston, uh, did you guys forget about us?

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    Paul Watson
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    It is just not NASA's decade as the shuttle fleet is grounded once again.[^] I hope someone over at ground control remembers to tell the boys up in Discovery. I know safety is important but this is becoming a bit of a farce. Is NASA tied up in too much red-tape to do anything effective about the shuttles? regards, Paul Watson South Africa PMW Photography Gary Kirkham wrote: The ability to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of the cliché...Star Trek had it in spades.

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      It is just not NASA's decade as the shuttle fleet is grounded once again.[^] I hope someone over at ground control remembers to tell the boys up in Discovery. I know safety is important but this is becoming a bit of a farce. Is NASA tied up in too much red-tape to do anything effective about the shuttles? regards, Paul Watson South Africa PMW Photography Gary Kirkham wrote: The ability to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of the cliché...Star Trek had it in spades.

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      Yongki C A Jong
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      Could be all those old technologies from the earlier days of the shuttle that they still have to rely on ̶ the parallel of Microsoft's 'backward compatibility' (excess baggage?) in the previous version of Windows. Guess the term 'rocket science' still relevant :doh: Developing in Heaven :o)
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        It is just not NASA's decade as the shuttle fleet is grounded once again.[^] I hope someone over at ground control remembers to tell the boys up in Discovery. I know safety is important but this is becoming a bit of a farce. Is NASA tied up in too much red-tape to do anything effective about the shuttles? regards, Paul Watson South Africa PMW Photography Gary Kirkham wrote: The ability to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of the cliché...Star Trek had it in spades.

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        peterchen
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        Hmm... Where is the "forget about these tiles, let me go save their asses" guy when you need him?


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          Hmm... Where is the "forget about these tiles, let me go save their asses" guy when you need him?


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          I guess we might end up looking towards the Russians for some help here again. That good old relaible Soyuz[^].


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            It is just not NASA's decade as the shuttle fleet is grounded once again.[^] I hope someone over at ground control remembers to tell the boys up in Discovery. I know safety is important but this is becoming a bit of a farce. Is NASA tied up in too much red-tape to do anything effective about the shuttles? regards, Paul Watson South Africa PMW Photography Gary Kirkham wrote: The ability to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of the cliché...Star Trek had it in spades.

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            Paul Watson wrote: I know safety is important but this is becoming a bit of a farce. Is NASA tied up in too much red-tape to do anything effective about the shuttles? I agree. And frankly, I would rather they shut down NASA and put the money somewhere else, at this point (but not throw it into the money pit called Iraq). Marc My website
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              Paul Watson wrote: I know safety is important but this is becoming a bit of a farce. Is NASA tied up in too much red-tape to do anything effective about the shuttles? I agree. And frankly, I would rather they shut down NASA and put the money somewhere else, at this point (but not throw it into the money pit called Iraq). Marc My website
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              Marc Clifton wrote: I agree. And frankly, I would rather they shut down NASA and put the money somewhere else, at this point (but not throw it into the money pit called Iraq). Yep - the only thing NASA has proven is that government bureaucracy and exploration are simply and mutually incompatible. Government controlled space science should strictly limited to sending unmanned probes, specifically designed with narrow mission parameters, where they need to go. Otherwise, if there is a need for manned space flight, it should be left to private enterprise. I mean, if some Boeing employees get killed in sub-orbit we can all just shrug and go about out business. But every time some of our space heroes die in the bold attempt to go where no man has gone before, everything has to come to a stop until we can absolutlely assure ourselves that our heroes are safe. What a dumb way to go about exploring the Universe. "Capitalism is the source of all true freedom."

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                Marc Clifton wrote: I agree. And frankly, I would rather they shut down NASA and put the money somewhere else, at this point (but not throw it into the money pit called Iraq). Yep - the only thing NASA has proven is that government bureaucracy and exploration are simply and mutually incompatible. Government controlled space science should strictly limited to sending unmanned probes, specifically designed with narrow mission parameters, where they need to go. Otherwise, if there is a need for manned space flight, it should be left to private enterprise. I mean, if some Boeing employees get killed in sub-orbit we can all just shrug and go about out business. But every time some of our space heroes die in the bold attempt to go where no man has gone before, everything has to come to a stop until we can absolutlely assure ourselves that our heroes are safe. What a dumb way to go about exploring the Universe. "Capitalism is the source of all true freedom."

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                Stan Shannon wrote: What a dumb way to go about exploring the Universe. Hey you are in orbit in a craft made by the lowest bidder - what do you expect ? I really think that we need a new system - the shuttle has outlived it's usefulness and it never lived up to its promise in the first place. Stan Shannon wrote: the only thing NASA has proven is that government bureaucracy and exploration are simply and mutually incompatible. Well Lewis and Clark would tend to disprove this statement. In any case private enterprise does not have sufficient financial abilities to do this on its own at the current state of development. In a few years if we can develop a truly efficient system ( an earth to orbit system that does not throw away parts on the way up and is powered on the way down with a one-two day turnaround ) private enterprise will take over. Richard In a world of pollution, profanity, adolescence, zits, broccoli, racism, ozone depletion, sexism, stupid guys, and PMS, why the hell do people still tell me to have a nice day? --Unknown

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                  I guess we might end up looking towards the Russians for some help here again. That good old relaible Soyuz[^].


                  George Carlin wrote: "Don't sweat the petty things, and don't pet the sweaty things." Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: If the physicists find a universal theory describing the laws of universe, I'm sure the asshole constant will be an integral part of that theory.
                  My Blog[^]


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                  Ray Cassick wrote: That good old relaible Soyuz Depends on who[^] you listen to. Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose. - Jim Elliot Me blog, You read

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                    Ray Cassick wrote: That good old relaible Soyuz Depends on who[^] you listen to. Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose. - Jim Elliot Me blog, You read

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                    Ray Cassick
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                    This is the same as it is with anything. I am only considering how long the same design has been in service. The space shuttle has been in service since 1981. The Russians have been using the Soyuz type since 1967.


                    George Carlin wrote: "Don't sweat the petty things, and don't pet the sweaty things." Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: If the physicists find a universal theory describing the laws of universe, I'm sure the asshole constant will be an integral part of that theory.
                    My Blog[^]


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                      Stan Shannon wrote: What a dumb way to go about exploring the Universe. Hey you are in orbit in a craft made by the lowest bidder - what do you expect ? I really think that we need a new system - the shuttle has outlived it's usefulness and it never lived up to its promise in the first place. Stan Shannon wrote: the only thing NASA has proven is that government bureaucracy and exploration are simply and mutually incompatible. Well Lewis and Clark would tend to disprove this statement. In any case private enterprise does not have sufficient financial abilities to do this on its own at the current state of development. In a few years if we can develop a truly efficient system ( an earth to orbit system that does not throw away parts on the way up and is powered on the way down with a one-two day turnaround ) private enterprise will take over. Richard In a world of pollution, profanity, adolescence, zits, broccoli, racism, ozone depletion, sexism, stupid guys, and PMS, why the hell do people still tell me to have a nice day? --Unknown

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                      Richard Stringer wrote: it never lived up to its promise in the first place. This is because of the NASA bureaucracy though. They had one design and never changed it aside form simple things to keep it updated and some safety stuff. Really I see this in a lot of industry. Look at the cool concept cars you see in car shows. How many of those cool cars do you see on the road today? None. Why? Because all they are is toys. Dreams. We should have been up to version 3 of the Space Shuttle by now with larger payloads, better engines and safer flights. Sheesh, we are still taking off vertically.


                      George Carlin wrote: "Don't sweat the petty things, and don't pet the sweaty things." Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: If the physicists find a universal theory describing the laws of universe, I'm sure the asshole constant will be an integral part of that theory.
                      My Blog[^]


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