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I think its when certain websites *cough* start recognizing it as a version greater than 4 and DHTML options start returning *wink wink* I agree it doesn't seem to be a big update, Phasers were definetly not set to stun for this one. I wouldn't be suprised if it was released for XP just to keep people happy so they wouldn't have to call it 6 in Vista. Matt Newman
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I have no idea what you're talking about. I made the update - should be apples now ;) cheers, Chris Maunder
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I've been using IE7 for a few days. I see the tabbed browsing. I see the RSS support. I see they've moved the refresh/stop button away from the main nav buttons all the way to the other side of the address bar. Can someone please tell me the cheat code to unlock the cool new features that make this a major release instead of just a point release? Phishing protection, proper PNG alpha blending and a search box that subtly promotes Microsoft's new search are all nice, but I think I'd like to move a motion that we call this release IE 6.1. cheers, Chris Maunder
Chris Maunder wrote: I see they've moved the refresh/stop button away from the main nav buttons all the way to the other side of the address bar. Well, there you go. Just try to be a bit modest, will ya? :laugh: /matthias
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I've been using IE7 for a few days. I see the tabbed browsing. I see the RSS support. I see they've moved the refresh/stop button away from the main nav buttons all the way to the other side of the address bar. Can someone please tell me the cheat code to unlock the cool new features that make this a major release instead of just a point release? Phishing protection, proper PNG alpha blending and a search box that subtly promotes Microsoft's new search are all nice, but I think I'd like to move a motion that we call this release IE 6.1. cheers, Chris Maunder
I'm curious, what were you expecting to see? Honestly, tabs, proper PNG support, better CSS support, phishing protection, search built in, RSS support, that is quite a lot, don't you think? AFAIR, the last major IE version increment didn't have as many new features and fixes. No, I'm no IE fanboy, I've been using Firefox for almost 2 years now (typing this in Deer Park Alpha 2), but IE 7 improves over IE 6 to the point I might consider switching back.
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I've been using IE7 for a few days. I see the tabbed browsing. I see the RSS support. I see they've moved the refresh/stop button away from the main nav buttons all the way to the other side of the address bar. Can someone please tell me the cheat code to unlock the cool new features that make this a major release instead of just a point release? Phishing protection, proper PNG alpha blending and a search box that subtly promotes Microsoft's new search are all nice, but I think I'd like to move a motion that we call this release IE 6.1. cheers, Chris Maunder
I read somewhere that this first beta had been deliberately stripped down. So maybe you have to wait for Beta 2 to see the full lisy of features? Kevin
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I've been using IE7 for a few days. I see the tabbed browsing. I see the RSS support. I see they've moved the refresh/stop button away from the main nav buttons all the way to the other side of the address bar. Can someone please tell me the cheat code to unlock the cool new features that make this a major release instead of just a point release? Phishing protection, proper PNG alpha blending and a search box that subtly promotes Microsoft's new search are all nice, but I think I'd like to move a motion that we call this release IE 6.1. cheers, Chris Maunder
Before you install this update, we recommend that you:
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I'm curious, what were you expecting to see? Honestly, tabs, proper PNG support, better CSS support, phishing protection, search built in, RSS support, that is quite a lot, don't you think? AFAIR, the last major IE version increment didn't have as many new features and fixes. No, I'm no IE fanboy, I've been using Firefox for almost 2 years now (typing this in Deer Park Alpha 2), but IE 7 improves over IE 6 to the point I might consider switching back.
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My feeling on IE6 was that it was much improved on IE5 in terms of complicance and stability. To me it felt justified in shedding the slightly tarnished 5.0 moniker and moving to a fresh 6.0 label. I guess with IE7 I was expecting...I dunno...innovation? Features that weren't already available through add-ins, wrappers or in competitor's products? I was hoping for: - quick access to common settings (such as turning javascript on/off) - A completely revamped and consolidated preferences manager that doesn't bury settings in the awful treelist checkbox thing, that combines the security settings in the perferences, that allows the preferences window to be resized so it's readable, and which uses common terms such as "javascript" instead of "active content". - more fine grain control over javascript action. I want to allow pop-ups, but not pop-unders, nor pop-ups that resize the window, nor should I be forbidden to right-click on a window and view-source. I was expecting - new DHTML goodness. IE6 already has features that are non-standard and with the continued move to give thin clients the functionality of thick clients I was expecting Microsoft to push things a little more to give web developers the chance to add new features to sites that would render better in IE than Mozilla. I don't support this move, I just expected it. - a fresh(er) look. I understand this beta is concentrating on platform and security issues, but surely they could have thrown a few T-shirts at the UI guys or something and jazzed it up a bit ;) - A new feature. Something that would make everyone go "hey - that's a good idea!". Split windows so you can view the top and bottom of a webpage in the same window, or a Source-view window that syncs up with the main window so when you highlight HTML it highlights the HTML code (a la Frontpage), or something cheers, Chris Maunder
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Chris Maunder wrote: Can someone please tell me the cheat code to unlock the cool new features that make this a major release instead of just a point release? You can download those cheat codes at this website[^] I see dead pixels Yes, even I am blogging now!
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My feeling on IE6 was that it was much improved on IE5 in terms of complicance and stability. To me it felt justified in shedding the slightly tarnished 5.0 moniker and moving to a fresh 6.0 label. I guess with IE7 I was expecting...I dunno...innovation? Features that weren't already available through add-ins, wrappers or in competitor's products? I was hoping for: - quick access to common settings (such as turning javascript on/off) - A completely revamped and consolidated preferences manager that doesn't bury settings in the awful treelist checkbox thing, that combines the security settings in the perferences, that allows the preferences window to be resized so it's readable, and which uses common terms such as "javascript" instead of "active content". - more fine grain control over javascript action. I want to allow pop-ups, but not pop-unders, nor pop-ups that resize the window, nor should I be forbidden to right-click on a window and view-source. I was expecting - new DHTML goodness. IE6 already has features that are non-standard and with the continued move to give thin clients the functionality of thick clients I was expecting Microsoft to push things a little more to give web developers the chance to add new features to sites that would render better in IE than Mozilla. I don't support this move, I just expected it. - a fresh(er) look. I understand this beta is concentrating on platform and security issues, but surely they could have thrown a few T-shirts at the UI guys or something and jazzed it up a bit ;) - A new feature. Something that would make everyone go "hey - that's a good idea!". Split windows so you can view the top and bottom of a webpage in the same window, or a Source-view window that syncs up with the main window so when you highlight HTML it highlights the HTML code (a la Frontpage), or something cheers, Chris Maunder
Chris Maunder wrote: I guess with IE7 I was expecting...I dunno...innovation? Based on the number of holes found in IE6, I think security can be considered an innovation for Microsoft this time around. :rolleyes: I wouldn't push them too hard towards being innovative in other areas, it could lead to them adding another character in their long line of spectacular animated characters. (Hi, I'm Sammy Swiss Cheeze, your animated IE security guide) One of the IE team members posted some info on Beta 2 recently. Security and standards seem the top priorities. I'm actually starting to like the UI, after my initial distaste for it upon viewing screenshots.
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My feeling on IE6 was that it was much improved on IE5 in terms of complicance and stability. To me it felt justified in shedding the slightly tarnished 5.0 moniker and moving to a fresh 6.0 label. I guess with IE7 I was expecting...I dunno...innovation? Features that weren't already available through add-ins, wrappers or in competitor's products? I was hoping for: - quick access to common settings (such as turning javascript on/off) - A completely revamped and consolidated preferences manager that doesn't bury settings in the awful treelist checkbox thing, that combines the security settings in the perferences, that allows the preferences window to be resized so it's readable, and which uses common terms such as "javascript" instead of "active content". - more fine grain control over javascript action. I want to allow pop-ups, but not pop-unders, nor pop-ups that resize the window, nor should I be forbidden to right-click on a window and view-source. I was expecting - new DHTML goodness. IE6 already has features that are non-standard and with the continued move to give thin clients the functionality of thick clients I was expecting Microsoft to push things a little more to give web developers the chance to add new features to sites that would render better in IE than Mozilla. I don't support this move, I just expected it. - a fresh(er) look. I understand this beta is concentrating on platform and security issues, but surely they could have thrown a few T-shirts at the UI guys or something and jazzed it up a bit ;) - A new feature. Something that would make everyone go "hey - that's a good idea!". Split windows so you can view the top and bottom of a webpage in the same window, or a Source-view window that syncs up with the main window so when you highlight HTML it highlights the HTML code (a la Frontpage), or something cheers, Chris Maunder
Chris...you know that all the features you ask for are available in Firefox, right?
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Before you install this update, we recommend that you:
- Back up your system- Close all open programs
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I read somewhere that this first beta had been deliberately stripped down. So maybe you have to wait for Beta 2 to see the full lisy of features? Kevin
Wouldn't surprise me. I know that even the entire new Windows Shell won't be revealed until either beta 2 or RTM, I suppose for the sake of the new ooohs and ahhhs when it's released.
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I think its when certain websites *cough* start recognizing it as a version greater than 4 and DHTML options start returning *wink wink* I agree it doesn't seem to be a big update, Phasers were definetly not set to stun for this one. I wouldn't be suprised if it was released for XP just to keep people happy so they wouldn't have to call it 6 in Vista. Matt Newman
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Matt Newman wrote: Phasers were definetly not set to stun for this one. Don't you mean 'phasers were definitely not set to kill for this one'?
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Matt Newman wrote: Phasers were definetly not set to stun for this one. Don't you mean 'phasers were definitely not set to kill for this one'?
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delete this;If it is not stunning than it can't be killer app :) (at least that's how I understand it) Never forget: "Stay kul and happy" (I.A.)
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My feeling on IE6 was that it was much improved on IE5 in terms of complicance and stability. To me it felt justified in shedding the slightly tarnished 5.0 moniker and moving to a fresh 6.0 label. I guess with IE7 I was expecting...I dunno...innovation? Features that weren't already available through add-ins, wrappers or in competitor's products? I was hoping for: - quick access to common settings (such as turning javascript on/off) - A completely revamped and consolidated preferences manager that doesn't bury settings in the awful treelist checkbox thing, that combines the security settings in the perferences, that allows the preferences window to be resized so it's readable, and which uses common terms such as "javascript" instead of "active content". - more fine grain control over javascript action. I want to allow pop-ups, but not pop-unders, nor pop-ups that resize the window, nor should I be forbidden to right-click on a window and view-source. I was expecting - new DHTML goodness. IE6 already has features that are non-standard and with the continued move to give thin clients the functionality of thick clients I was expecting Microsoft to push things a little more to give web developers the chance to add new features to sites that would render better in IE than Mozilla. I don't support this move, I just expected it. - a fresh(er) look. I understand this beta is concentrating on platform and security issues, but surely they could have thrown a few T-shirts at the UI guys or something and jazzed it up a bit ;) - A new feature. Something that would make everyone go "hey - that's a good idea!". Split windows so you can view the top and bottom of a webpage in the same window, or a Source-view window that syncs up with the main window so when you highlight HTML it highlights the HTML code (a la Frontpage), or something cheers, Chris Maunder
Hey Chris - perhaps this text from the IE7 download page offers some explaination: "Beta 1 is not intended for broad consumer trial and evaluation but it does offer a preview of some of the benefits that Internet Explorer 7 will offer customers including:" Seems as if they say right up front that Beta 1 is limited. How can you expect more from that? You know as well as I how MS betas work, dude.
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My feeling on IE6 was that it was much improved on IE5 in terms of complicance and stability. To me it felt justified in shedding the slightly tarnished 5.0 moniker and moving to a fresh 6.0 label. I guess with IE7 I was expecting...I dunno...innovation? Features that weren't already available through add-ins, wrappers or in competitor's products? I was hoping for: - quick access to common settings (such as turning javascript on/off) - A completely revamped and consolidated preferences manager that doesn't bury settings in the awful treelist checkbox thing, that combines the security settings in the perferences, that allows the preferences window to be resized so it's readable, and which uses common terms such as "javascript" instead of "active content". - more fine grain control over javascript action. I want to allow pop-ups, but not pop-unders, nor pop-ups that resize the window, nor should I be forbidden to right-click on a window and view-source. I was expecting - new DHTML goodness. IE6 already has features that are non-standard and with the continued move to give thin clients the functionality of thick clients I was expecting Microsoft to push things a little more to give web developers the chance to add new features to sites that would render better in IE than Mozilla. I don't support this move, I just expected it. - a fresh(er) look. I understand this beta is concentrating on platform and security issues, but surely they could have thrown a few T-shirts at the UI guys or something and jazzed it up a bit ;) - A new feature. Something that would make everyone go "hey - that's a good idea!". Split windows so you can view the top and bottom of a webpage in the same window, or a Source-view window that syncs up with the main window so when you highlight HTML it highlights the HTML code (a la Frontpage), or something cheers, Chris Maunder
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I read somewhere that this first beta had been deliberately stripped down. So maybe you have to wait for Beta 2 to see the full lisy of features? Kevin
Well according to the IEBlog[^] there is not much else coming feature wise. The next Beta will be platform (HTML, CSS, DOM etc.) updates which is great for us web-developers but not so great for end-users. IE 6.1. regards, Paul Watson South Africa PMW Photography Gary Kirkham wrote: The ability to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of the cliché...Star Trek had it in spades.
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I've been using IE7 for a few days. I see the tabbed browsing. I see the RSS support. I see they've moved the refresh/stop button away from the main nav buttons all the way to the other side of the address bar. Can someone please tell me the cheat code to unlock the cool new features that make this a major release instead of just a point release? Phishing protection, proper PNG alpha blending and a search box that subtly promotes Microsoft's new search are all nice, but I think I'd like to move a motion that we call this release IE 6.1. cheers, Chris Maunder
Chris Maunder wrote: I'd like to move a motion that we call this release IE 6.1. Motion seconded. I call for the question.:cool: "...putting all your eggs in one basket along with your bowling ball and gym clothes only gets you scrambled eggs and an extra laundry day... " - Jeffry J. Brickley
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I read recently that IE7 installes a new WinInet.dll that happens to break GAIM, AIM, and some other instant messengers.
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Judah Himango wrote: happens to break GAIM, AIM, and some other I don't know why I'm not surprised... but, we are talking here about a MS product, right? :laugh:
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Chris Maunder wrote: Can someone please tell me the cheat code to unlock the cool new features that make this a major release instead of just a point release? You can download those cheat codes at this website[^] I see dead pixels Yes, even I am blogging now!
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Judah Himango wrote: happens to break GAIM, AIM, and some other I don't know why I'm not surprised... but, we are talking here about a MS product, right? :laugh:
Let's be fair, Netscape's newest browser also broke several IM clients, as I recall. What I'm curious to know is, are people using the WinInet dll in undocumented, unsupported ways (in which case, this breaking of IM clients is on the IM dev's heads), or did MS create a WinInet dll that broke supported, documented functionality?
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