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  • A Alexander M

    By the way: why are the americans complaining about expensive gas? It's just ~2.40$ per gallon. In Germany we pay more than 5.00€ per gallon!! Don't try it, just do it! ;-)

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    Pah! That's way cheap: I payed 91.9pence per litre the other day which is (about) £4.18 per gallon or $7:58 or 6:10€ and it can be had for more if you take the time to serach it out :-D. It now costs me about £50 per week in fuel. And people live here, WHY???

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    • A Alexander M

      By the way: why are the americans complaining about expensive gas? It's just ~2.40$ per gallon. In Germany we pay more than 5.00€ per gallon!! Don't try it, just do it! ;-)

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      Two reasons: One, the psychological. After people get used to something and it's taken away, the effect is worse than if you've never had it to begin with. (this goes for many situations as well). Two, the economical. Our economy is structured around the lower prices. Consider this, most Americans cannot find a good job 5 mins away unless they live in New York, etc. (typical city layout and zoning ensure this). Now, we are paying over twice what we used to pay in gas -- this cuts into our budgets. Nothing yet has come up to counter-balance it. Times of change are never easy. Here's an example for you. Let's take the prices for gas in the UK (may be a bad example if people commute via train mostly, but I'm looking to get the concept across only). Let's say they've always been high. You can bet that over time by now, the average job salary has in one fashion or another, indirectly or directly, accounted for the costs of actually working because if people didn't work there would be no economy. It will have to even out some how or the economy would die. Now, change is the issue. In sudden change, bosses aren't just leaping in bounds to give every car-driving employee in the US a raise. Over time, wages may even out to account for it, we may find different energy sources, who knows. But, until we get to the point it starts averaging out again, we're gonna complain about gas prices. ;P Jeremy Falcon

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        Two reasons: One, the psychological. After people get used to something and it's taken away, the effect is worse than if you've never had it to begin with. (this goes for many situations as well). Two, the economical. Our economy is structured around the lower prices. Consider this, most Americans cannot find a good job 5 mins away unless they live in New York, etc. (typical city layout and zoning ensure this). Now, we are paying over twice what we used to pay in gas -- this cuts into our budgets. Nothing yet has come up to counter-balance it. Times of change are never easy. Here's an example for you. Let's take the prices for gas in the UK (may be a bad example if people commute via train mostly, but I'm looking to get the concept across only). Let's say they've always been high. You can bet that over time by now, the average job salary has in one fashion or another, indirectly or directly, accounted for the costs of actually working because if people didn't work there would be no economy. It will have to even out some how or the economy would die. Now, change is the issue. In sudden change, bosses aren't just leaping in bounds to give every car-driving employee in the US a raise. Over time, wages may even out to account for it, we may find different energy sources, who knows. But, until we get to the point it starts averaging out again, we're gonna complain about gas prices. ;P Jeremy Falcon

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        And of course the legacy of really cheap gas has lead directly to the huge gas guzzling cars that are prevalent here in the US. That also accounts for the pain when filling the tank can cost well over $100. :sigh:

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          And of course the legacy of really cheap gas has lead directly to the huge gas guzzling cars that are prevalent here in the US. That also accounts for the pain when filling the tank can cost well over $100. :sigh:

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          Definately! I kinda wish I didn't have a V8 now. :sigh: Jeremy Falcon

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          • A Alexander M

            By the way: why are the americans complaining about expensive gas? It's just ~2.40$ per gallon. In Germany we pay more than 5.00€ per gallon!! Don't try it, just do it! ;-)

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            Alexander M. wrote: why are the americans complaining about expensive gas? We're used to gas being cheap. Gas had stayed at around $1/gallon for many years, before it started going up dramatically, around the time we went to war with Iraq. So we got used to it being cheap and now that it's more than twice what it was, it seems much more expensive. Regards, Alvaro


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            • A Alexander M

              Most americans would still use the car... even for a 5 minutes walk! :doh: Don't try it, just do it! ;-)

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              How the heck would you know if you live in Germany?

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              • A Alexander M

                By the way: why are the americans complaining about expensive gas? It's just ~2.40$ per gallon. In Germany we pay more than 5.00€ per gallon!! Don't try it, just do it! ;-)

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                It's not so much how expensive it is rather than how fast it got there.


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                • L legalAlien

                  Pah! That's way cheap: I payed 91.9pence per litre the other day which is (about) £4.18 per gallon or $7:58 or 6:10€ and it can be had for more if you take the time to serach it out :-D. It now costs me about £50 per week in fuel. And people live here, WHY???

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                  legalAlien wrote: It now costs me about £50 per week in fuel. That's about $27.73, right?


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                  • J Jeremy Falcon

                    Two reasons: One, the psychological. After people get used to something and it's taken away, the effect is worse than if you've never had it to begin with. (this goes for many situations as well). Two, the economical. Our economy is structured around the lower prices. Consider this, most Americans cannot find a good job 5 mins away unless they live in New York, etc. (typical city layout and zoning ensure this). Now, we are paying over twice what we used to pay in gas -- this cuts into our budgets. Nothing yet has come up to counter-balance it. Times of change are never easy. Here's an example for you. Let's take the prices for gas in the UK (may be a bad example if people commute via train mostly, but I'm looking to get the concept across only). Let's say they've always been high. You can bet that over time by now, the average job salary has in one fashion or another, indirectly or directly, accounted for the costs of actually working because if people didn't work there would be no economy. It will have to even out some how or the economy would die. Now, change is the issue. In sudden change, bosses aren't just leaping in bounds to give every car-driving employee in the US a raise. Over time, wages may even out to account for it, we may find different energy sources, who knows. But, until we get to the point it starts averaging out again, we're gonna complain about gas prices. ;P Jeremy Falcon

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                    Jeremy Falcon wrote: Now, we are paying over twice what we used to pay in gas... Not only in gas for our cars but also gas for our homes. That's a double whammy!


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                    • J Jason Henderson

                      How the heck would you know if you live in Germany?

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                      "They" let some of us out from time to time, and a few even go to a place called "United States of America (Yeah!)", where they first are asked pesky questions and looked at suspicously (Joseph says they are afraid we take away their women, but Joseph always was a simple mind anyway). But if they are let in, they all say they are mostly treated very nice. And they bring back strange stories... :rolleyes: Seriously: There are many places outside downtown where walking is uncommon: you almost never see someone walking - and if, then it's the socially less fortunate capitalistically less successful. I've seen suburbias without walkway. I've walked the two miles between hotel and conference center. It's just one of these prejudices, you know, like mexican food being spicy and germans drinking beer.


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                        "They" let some of us out from time to time, and a few even go to a place called "United States of America (Yeah!)", where they first are asked pesky questions and looked at suspicously (Joseph says they are afraid we take away their women, but Joseph always was a simple mind anyway). But if they are let in, they all say they are mostly treated very nice. And they bring back strange stories... :rolleyes: Seriously: There are many places outside downtown where walking is uncommon: you almost never see someone walking - and if, then it's the socially less fortunate capitalistically less successful. I've seen suburbias without walkway. I've walked the two miles between hotel and conference center. It's just one of these prejudices, you know, like mexican food being spicy and germans drinking beer.


                        Pandoras Gift #44: Hope. The one that keeps you on suffering.
                        aber.. "Wie gesagt, der Scheiss is' Therapie"
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                        peterchen wrote: Seriously: There are many places outside downtown where walking is uncommon: you almost never see someone walking - and if, then it's the socially less fortunate capitalistically less successful. I've seen suburbias without walkway. I've walked the two miles between hotel and conference center. It's just one of these prejudices, you know, like mexican food being spicy and germans drinking beer. Well, I don't live in a big city where everything plus work is within walking distance. If I had to walk to work it would probably take over an hour and I'd be all sweaty and in need of a shower. If I could walk to work in 5 minutes I'd do it in a heartbeat unless it was 90 degrees F. They kind of frown on body odor where I work. Right now I'm paying over $200 a month for gas. That's over twice what I was paying 2 years ago. If they would install a shower at work I would seriously consider riding my bike 7 miles through the traffic.

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                          peterchen wrote: Seriously: There are many places outside downtown where walking is uncommon: you almost never see someone walking - and if, then it's the socially less fortunate capitalistically less successful. I've seen suburbias without walkway. I've walked the two miles between hotel and conference center. It's just one of these prejudices, you know, like mexican food being spicy and germans drinking beer. Well, I don't live in a big city where everything plus work is within walking distance. If I had to walk to work it would probably take over an hour and I'd be all sweaty and in need of a shower. If I could walk to work in 5 minutes I'd do it in a heartbeat unless it was 90 degrees F. They kind of frown on body odor where I work. Right now I'm paying over $200 a month for gas. That's over twice what I was paying 2 years ago. If they would install a shower at work I would seriously consider riding my bike 7 miles through the traffic.

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                          The old office had a shower, which was seriously welcome. I'm mostly riding my bike, not having a car (by choice) - but with that I'm the odd one out here, too. Jason Henderson wrote: Right now I'm paying over $200 a month for gas. That's over twice what I was paying 2 years ago. I still proudly remember winning a gas price bet, claiming we would find something cheaper than 75ct/gallon in the next hour. But thsat was ten years ago :rolleyes:


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                            legalAlien wrote: It now costs me about £50 per week in fuel. That's about $27.73, right?


                            "One must learn from the bite of the fire to leave it alone." - Native American Proverb

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                            No, try $90.00... All the Best Julian N.

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                              No, try $90.00... All the Best Julian N.

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                              Thanks. I divided when I should have multiplied. :doh:


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