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Hi, How many of the Cpians are computer science graduates from british universities? I will be studying MSc. in Distributed Systems and Information at Brunel Univ. I am in the software field for the last 5 years. What you guys think? Will MSc helps me? Thanks, milan c gurung satan
Started uni., got bored and someone offered me a job so I took it. That does not mean I've stopped learning though, ISO9001 internal auditor and looking at PRINCE2 project mamangement once I get settled down again. Elaine :rose: The tigress is here :-D
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Hi, How many of the Cpians are computer science graduates from british universities? I will be studying MSc. in Distributed Systems and Information at Brunel Univ. I am in the software field for the last 5 years. What you guys think? Will MSc helps me? Thanks, milan c gurung satan
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Hi, How many of the Cpians are computer science graduates from british universities? I will be studying MSc. in Distributed Systems and Information at Brunel Univ. I am in the software field for the last 5 years. What you guys think? Will MSc helps me? Thanks, milan c gurung satan
I have a BSc in Computing Science from Stafford. milan wrote: Will MSc helps me? Depends on what you do with the knowledge you gain; if you end up just setting up office networks then there are quicker ways to get the required information but if you end up designing large distributed information systems then it will certainly help even if it just gives you the background knowledge.
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I have a BSc in Computing Science from Stafford. milan wrote: Will MSc helps me? Depends on what you do with the knowledge you gain; if you end up just setting up office networks then there are quicker ways to get the required information but if you end up designing large distributed information systems then it will certainly help even if it just gives you the background knowledge.
Team Leader - Team Code Project[^] :cool:
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I have a BSc. from Aston University It helped me - but not in any social context. It also saddled me with enourmous debts that took the best part of a decade to clear. '--8<------------------------ Ex Datis: Duncan Jones Merrion Computing Ltd
I was at Aston with Ian, but graduated after him because I changed courses in the middle. I started out studying for an MEng in Electronic Systems Engineering, but really didn't get the quantum mechanics and advanced maths required to understand semiconductors and optical electronics. So after three years, I transferred to Computing Science, year 2. Some parts of the curriculum have been useful in my work, but less than you'd think. Effectively I taught myself C++ anyway. Stability. What an interesting concept. -- Chris Maunder
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I was at Aston with Ian, but graduated after him because I changed courses in the middle. I started out studying for an MEng in Electronic Systems Engineering, but really didn't get the quantum mechanics and advanced maths required to understand semiconductors and optical electronics. So after three years, I transferred to Computing Science, year 2. Some parts of the curriculum have been useful in my work, but less than you'd think. Effectively I taught myself C++ anyway. Stability. What an interesting concept. -- Chris Maunder
Presumably Dr Csenki (sp?) is still doing that head-wrecking "Logic" course? '--8<------------------------ Ex Datis: Duncan Jones Merrion Computing Ltd
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Hi, How many of the Cpians are computer science graduates from british universities? I will be studying MSc. in Distributed Systems and Information at Brunel Univ. I am in the software field for the last 5 years. What you guys think? Will MSc helps me? Thanks, milan c gurung satan
milan wrote: How many of the Cpians are computer science graduates from british universities? I am, BSc Hons from Salford milan wrote: Will MSc helps me? Yes. Having those little letters after your name will help you to get to the interview stage. You may well find that it doesn't help you do the job though - the realities of work are a far cry from the image in uni.'s
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Hi, How many of the Cpians are computer science graduates from british universities? I will be studying MSc. in Distributed Systems and Information at Brunel Univ. I am in the software field for the last 5 years. What you guys think? Will MSc helps me? Thanks, milan c gurung satan
My first degree was in Physics and Electronics, followed by an M.Sc. in Computer Science and a Ph.D. Without a degree, you might have to work harder to convince potential employers that you have a good theoretical grounding in the subject and are prepared to learn, and accept that some will reject your application before you get far enough to give them convincing evidence of your abilities. Academic qualifications aren't necessary, but they are desirable. Only you can decide whether they're worth spending a year or two on a low income before working full time. You may be repaid in any or all of earning potential, better knowledge of your subject and in your social life - or you may not. Good luck! Gavin Greig "Haw, you're no deid," girned Charon. "Get aff ma boat or ah'll report ye." Matthew Fitt - The Hoose O Haivers: The Twelve Trauchles O Heracles.
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I was at Aston with Ian, but graduated after him because I changed courses in the middle. I started out studying for an MEng in Electronic Systems Engineering, but really didn't get the quantum mechanics and advanced maths required to understand semiconductors and optical electronics. So after three years, I transferred to Computing Science, year 2. Some parts of the curriculum have been useful in my work, but less than you'd think. Effectively I taught myself C++ anyway. Stability. What an interesting concept. -- Chris Maunder
I did that course! ;P They were happy days! Remeber Dalton Tower swaying in a light breeze?
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I've been a contractor for nearly 20 years and have worked, primarily, for blue-chip investment banks in the City of London and New York (and a few other places!) and I am completely self taught having left school at 15 to do an apprenticeship. Computing was a hobby that got turned, entirely accidentally, into a career. I have found, however, that, once or twice, I've not been considered for a contract or role because I didn't have a degree. But that is quite rare and, I think, can be a little short sighted depending on the requirements of the contract. I am now considering taking a degree but only because I can, not to get me a better job. When I have hired people for contracting roles in the past I much prefer married (with kids: usually more reliable), experienced people. A degree is a nice to have but not a prerequisite.
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legalAlien wrote: I have found, however, that, once or twice, I've not been considered for a contract or role because I didn't have a degree. But that is quite rare and, I think, can be a little short sighted depending on the requirements of the contract. Occasionally you see a more reasonable "(degree + 1 year's experience) or n years' experience" where n may be, say, 5. Kevin
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Although I studied Computer Engineering and Software Development as part of my honours degree at Surrey University, that degree was in Electronic and Electrical Engineering. I think it's served me rather well...I tend to look at things from a system perspective rather than just software, and am equally at home at whatever level of system troubleshooting or debugging I encounter. :cool: If the many colleagues I've encountered during my career are anything to go by, that's a pretty common route into software development these days. Anna :rose: Riverblade Ltd - Software Consultancy Services Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work.
Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote: Although I studied Computer Engineering and Software Development as part of my honours degree at Surrey University, that degree was in Electronic and Electrical Engineering. I did Civil Engineering at Surrey. :) Kevin
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Hi, How many of the Cpians are computer science graduates from british universities? I will be studying MSc. in Distributed Systems and Information at Brunel Univ. I am in the software field for the last 5 years. What you guys think? Will MSc helps me? Thanks, milan c gurung satan
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Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote: Although I studied Computer Engineering and Software Development as part of my honours degree at Surrey University, that degree was in Electronic and Electrical Engineering. I did Civil Engineering at Surrey. :) Kevin
Cool! :cool: Since I graduated in 1989 I keep bumping into other Surrey graduates...my first job after Uni had 3 of us in a department of 10 people! :laugh: Are you on the UosGrads mailing list, by any chance? Anna :rose: Riverblade Ltd - Software Consultancy Services Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work.
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Cool! :cool: Since I graduated in 1989 I keep bumping into other Surrey graduates...my first job after Uni had 3 of us in a department of 10 people! :laugh: Are you on the UosGrads mailing list, by any chance? Anna :rose: Riverblade Ltd - Software Consultancy Services Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work.
Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote: Are you on the UosGrads mailing list, by any chance? Yes. I graduated in 1981. Kevin
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Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote: Are you on the UosGrads mailing list, by any chance? Yes. I graduated in 1981. Kevin
Cool. See you there! :cool: Anna :rose: Riverblade Ltd - Software Consultancy Services Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work.
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Presumably Dr Csenki (sp?) is still doing that head-wrecking "Logic" course? '--8<------------------------ Ex Datis: Duncan Jones Merrion Computing Ltd
I don't remember him, nor taking a Logic course. Of course that may have been Year 1 Computing Science, which I skipped over - I covered all the important modules either by taking them as part of the ESE course, or taking equivalent electronics courses (e.g. Programmable Electronics rather than the CS assembler/computer hardware module). Stability. What an interesting concept. -- Chris Maunder
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I think you'd be better off studying for a business MBA rather than a Masters - it will increase your value to most big companies.
Robert Edward Caldecott wrote: I think you'd be better off studying for a business MBA rather than a Masters... This doesn't quite make sense. Not only is "business MBA" redundant, but how is that not a Masters? :confused: What exactly is being compared here?
"One must learn from the bite of the fire to leave it alone." - Native American Proverb
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Weird, how come this posted to Roberts post. :confused: Weiye Chen wrote: Sounds like forced labour with pathetic pay. Yep. Logica, EDS, they all do it hiring graduates on mass as they know no better. The quality of their product shows it as well.
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Giles wrote: Weird, how come this posted to Roberts post. Yeah, and yours come under David's. :confused: Weiye Chen Life is hard, yet we are made of flesh...
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My first degree was in Physics and Electronics, followed by an M.Sc. in Computer Science and a Ph.D. Without a degree, you might have to work harder to convince potential employers that you have a good theoretical grounding in the subject and are prepared to learn, and accept that some will reject your application before you get far enough to give them convincing evidence of your abilities. Academic qualifications aren't necessary, but they are desirable. Only you can decide whether they're worth spending a year or two on a low income before working full time. You may be repaid in any or all of earning potential, better knowledge of your subject and in your social life - or you may not. Good luck! Gavin Greig "Haw, you're no deid," girned Charon. "Get aff ma boat or ah'll report ye." Matthew Fitt - The Hoose O Haivers: The Twelve Trauchles O Heracles.