Petrol pricing
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Christian Graus wrote: buy a horse Seriously, we should ride on horses instead. You will know why when the price of a simple Honda 1.7 litre car here can cost around SGD 75,000(USD 52,500)!:wtf: Christian Graus wrote: Is the price of petrol going nuts everywhere else No idea. I don't own a car. But i do know the cost of horse's food is cheap. :) Weiye Chen Life is hard, yet we are made of flesh...
Weiye Chen wrote: But i do know the cost of horse's food is cheap. As a (former ) horse owner I suggest that you do more research into the true price of owning a pony. You have got vet bills, stable bills ( unless you own a farm ) , exercise bills, etc.. out the wazoo. In my case it was about 350.00 a month. Even with gas at 2.60 a gallon here in Dallas I can drive my SUV ( 18 mpg ) 2400 miles a month - 80 miles a day - for the same price. A horse ain't the answer. Richard In a world of pollution, profanity, adolescence, zits, broccoli, racism, ozone depletion, sexism, stupid guys, and PMS, why the hell do people still tell me to have a nice day? --Unknown
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Roger Wright wrote: As long as we would rather drive our cars than walk, the blood-suckers will continue to raise prices. Unfortunately true. Our 10:00 news aired a gas-related segment the other night. They were at the pump while the owner of a Ford Excursion was filling up. He said it definitely hurts to pay over $90 to fill up but he said it is worth the comfort of the vehicle and had no plans on getting rid of it. That thing is so huge, it is not classified as a "light truck" so the CAFE standards do not apply (one of the reasons you see N/A on review-type sites). At roughly 5 MPG, I think that is unfair to the rest of us.
"One must learn from the bite of the fire to leave it alone." - Native American Proverb
DavidCrow wrote: At roughly 5 MPG, I think that is unfair to the rest of us. I owned an Excursion a few years ago ( I own an Explorer now ) and I will assure you that the mpg is far greater than 5 mpg. I get 18 in town and 23 on the highway and there is only a small difference in weight between the Explorer and the Excursion. And I too like them for their comfort and safety in city driving. Richard In a world of pollution, profanity, adolescence, zits, broccoli, racism, ozone depletion, sexism, stupid guys, and PMS, why the hell do people still tell me to have a nice day? --Unknown
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Apparently one of the garages in this area is selling unleaded fuel for 95.9p/litre...:omg: For the benefit of our US cousins that's £3.94 or about $6.90 per US gallon... Anna :rose: Riverblade Ltd - Software Consultancy Services Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work.
Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote: For the benefit of our US cousins that's £3.94 or about $6.90 per US gallon... And how much of that is tax ? Probably more than 1/2. Richard In a world of pollution, profanity, adolescence, zits, broccoli, racism, ozone depletion, sexism, stupid guys, and PMS, why the hell do people still tell me to have a nice day? --Unknown
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Where I live, petrol seems to go up in price by about 4 cents a week. I remember griping a few months ago that petrol went over $1 a litre, and it's just hit $1.27. Now, I have a good job, and quite a few jobs on the side, and my wife has a reasonable job as well, so to me, it's just less money for cool toys, but I really wonder how people making $25k are getting by. I realise the price of crude oil is going up, and everyone says it's China's fault ( they have increased demand by quite a bit ), I'm not suggesting any great conspiracy. I just wonder how it will affect our way of life, because the price of petrol == the price of EVERYTHING, because every means of transport I can think of uses petrol, one way or the other. One thing I'm sure of, I am glad I didn't let my wife convince me to buy a new 8 seater van about 6 months ago. I feel more inclined to fence the paddocks and buy a horse !!! Is the price of petrol going nuts everywhere else, or is it just here ( Australia ) ? Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++
I just paid $2.51 / gallon 2 days ago. I found it for $2.66 at another station during lunch today. I think we've finally peaked over our early 80's prices even adjusted for inflation. I've cut back on my driving and bought a new programmable thermostat to control home energy costs. BW
Meanwhile, behind the facade of this innocent looking bookstore...
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Christian Graus wrote: Is the price of petrol going nuts everywhere else Yes. When I started driving, I paid $.27 per US gallon. In 1973 the Arabs decided to strangle the market and cut off imports to the US. Domestic suppliers told us, and the government confirmed, that the world had, at most, a twenty year supply of crude oil left. That led to an increase to $.70 per gallon, about what the world market was charging at the time. To my small mind, that scarcity justified the increased price, and I gladly paid. Thirty-two years later I find that we are still in no danger of running out of petroleum - the gas companies and my own government both blatantly lied to us all. There is no excuse for the prices we now pay. It can't be justified in any way other than "caveat emptor." Let the buyer beware. As long as we would rather drive our cars than walk, the blood-suckers will continue to raise prices. This is pure capitalism at work. The demand curve is flat, and the supply curve very elastic. In such conditions, it is a seller's market. So long as we choose to pay whatever the suppliers elect to charge for the product, the price will continue to climb. Microsoft is currently enjoying such a market, and we, as developers of MS-compatible products, share in that boon. We help to create it, in fact. It's nothing to be concerned about - just a free market working exactly as free markets are supposed to work. If you don't like the price of petrol, buy a bike instead. If enough of us ride bikes instead of driving to work, the cost of petrol will come down. That, too, is a part of the market system at work.:-D "...putting all your eggs in one basket along with your bowling ball and gym clothes only gets you scrambled eggs and an extra laundry day... " - Jeffry J. Brickley
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DavidCrow wrote: At roughly 5 MPG, I think that is unfair to the rest of us. I owned an Excursion a few years ago ( I own an Explorer now ) and I will assure you that the mpg is far greater than 5 mpg. I get 18 in town and 23 on the highway and there is only a small difference in weight between the Explorer and the Excursion. And I too like them for their comfort and safety in city driving. Richard In a world of pollution, profanity, adolescence, zits, broccoli, racism, ozone depletion, sexism, stupid guys, and PMS, why the hell do people still tell me to have a nice day? --Unknown
I am in no position to argue with you as I have no empirical data. All I can go by is the Ford Web site, which lists nothing since the vehicle does not qualify, and the several consumer-related sites I visited all indicated the same thing...very poor fuel economy. One site actually mentioned 3.7 MPG. I have a very small gasoline V8 in a vehicle that weighs just a bit over two tons. I've never gotten over 20 MPG with it. To add almost 1500 pounds to that, and at least another liter of engine capacity, and still get 3 more MPG is incredible.
"One must learn from the bite of the fire to leave it alone." - Native American Proverb
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I just paid $2.51 / gallon 2 days ago. I found it for $2.66 at another station during lunch today. I think we've finally peaked over our early 80's prices even adjusted for inflation. I've cut back on my driving and bought a new programmable thermostat to control home energy costs. BW
Meanwhile, behind the facade of this innocent looking bookstore...
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Apparently one of the garages in this area is selling unleaded fuel for 95.9p/litre...:omg: For the benefit of our US cousins that's £3.94 or about $6.90 per US gallon... Anna :rose: Riverblade Ltd - Software Consultancy Services Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work.
But the UK is so small you can drive right across it on one tank of petrol ;) Steve T
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Inlation indexed oil prices peaked at $>94/barrel in 81, so while we're getting close it's not quite that bad yet.
yup, heard that too. I was just looking at gas pump pricing. still well under our prior peaks. Of course, we import much more today than we did then. BW
Meanwhile, behind the facade of this innocent looking bookstore...
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Where I live, petrol seems to go up in price by about 4 cents a week. I remember griping a few months ago that petrol went over $1 a litre, and it's just hit $1.27. Now, I have a good job, and quite a few jobs on the side, and my wife has a reasonable job as well, so to me, it's just less money for cool toys, but I really wonder how people making $25k are getting by. I realise the price of crude oil is going up, and everyone says it's China's fault ( they have increased demand by quite a bit ), I'm not suggesting any great conspiracy. I just wonder how it will affect our way of life, because the price of petrol == the price of EVERYTHING, because every means of transport I can think of uses petrol, one way or the other. One thing I'm sure of, I am glad I didn't let my wife convince me to buy a new 8 seater van about 6 months ago. I feel more inclined to fence the paddocks and buy a horse !!! Is the price of petrol going nuts everywhere else, or is it just here ( Australia ) ? Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++
Fossil fuels are so five minutes ago. Michael Hodnick www.kindohm.com
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Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote: For the benefit of our US cousins that's £3.94 or about $6.90 per US gallon... And how much of that is tax ? Probably more than 1/2. Richard In a world of pollution, profanity, adolescence, zits, broccoli, racism, ozone depletion, sexism, stupid guys, and PMS, why the hell do people still tell me to have a nice day? --Unknown
About 80% if I remember right. The UK Government traditionally uses VAT and Duty as a means of indirect taxation so they can claim to be keeping income tax low. Of course, these days the public are a little too sophisticated to be taken in by such a ruse. Anna :rose: Riverblade Ltd - Software Consultancy Services Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work.
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But the UK is so small you can drive right across it on one tank of petrol ;) Steve T
I wish! :laugh: Anna :rose: Riverblade Ltd - Software Consultancy Services Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work.
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DavidCrow wrote: At roughly 5 MPG, I think that is unfair to the rest of us. I owned an Excursion a few years ago ( I own an Explorer now ) and I will assure you that the mpg is far greater than 5 mpg. I get 18 in town and 23 on the highway and there is only a small difference in weight between the Explorer and the Excursion. And I too like them for their comfort and safety in city driving. Richard In a world of pollution, profanity, adolescence, zits, broccoli, racism, ozone depletion, sexism, stupid guys, and PMS, why the hell do people still tell me to have a nice day? --Unknown
I find it somewhat interesting that NO MATTER the weight of the car and the type of engine, they all pretty much seem to get 'around' 18 - 25 MPG. I mean, I would think a Mini-Cooper could get like 50 MPG and the Eccursion would get like 12. So what gives?
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Apart from the headline items, China's energy demand is increasing rapidly but they have virtually no oil reserves of their own so it's going to get worse not better :sigh: The tigress is here :-D
They were building MANY hydroeletric plants. Their poptential cpacity for generating electricity this way is enormous. I can see China really pushing the demand for electric car technology forwards. Some interesting facts might be what is the profit margin on a barrel of oil? Is it like 95% or something?