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I can't get it, so it's cost is irrelevant. stuck with dialup (at 28000 baud).:sigh:
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PJ Arends wrote: stuck with dialup (at 28000 baud). Ouch! I'm using a GPRS (cell phone) connection on my laptop when I'm out in the mountains, and that's just when you notice the difference. I still remember the days when I only had 33.6kbps dial-up at home, and 64kbps ISDN dial-up in the office - it didn't seem to be as slow at the time. :) Officially, GPRS should be up to 40kbits/s or so, but I think in areas with weaker signal it is somewhere around 10 to 20kbit/s. Another problem is that you pay for every kbyte you transfer with GPRS, and the price for 1Mbyte is about $1.15! I couldn't believe how easily one transfers several megabytes in just a few moments before I installed a traffic monitor. :) Rado
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I just changed my plan. Intially, my DSL and phone service were separate plans through SBC. I was paying $39.95 per month for 384 Kb/Sec DLS and $49.99 per month for local phone service. However, I recently change my plan and got a big discount. They upgraded me to 1280 Kb/Sec and unlimited nationwide calling (no long distance) for $79.99. I think it's a pretty good deal. I get faster DSL, unlimited calling, and no long distance for $10 less per month than I was paying. Regards, Brigg Thorp Senior Software Engineer Timex Corporation
I've been seriously considering switching from my Satillite system (Starband)to SBC DSL. You seem to be happy with it. How does it compare to the cable systems? Have you had connection problems, support, service problems, etc? "Capitalism is the source of all true freedom."
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Only a simple question: how does a always-on DSL connection cost in your countries? In Italy a 4096 Kbit/s line costs about 30 € per month (about 36 USD).
[ITA] Tozzi ha ragione: Gaia si sta liberando di noi. [ENG] Tozzi is right: Gaia is obliterating us.
I'm not sure as I'm not using DSL myself, but I think the prices start somewhere around $30/mo here in Slovakia, this could be for a 512k line. Of course, you would pay more for a faster line, flat rate, or other extras. Wireless (WiFi) connections are very popular here, and the prices for these usually start somewhere around $15/mo. Rado PS: Not America nor Australia, I know. ;)
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Only a simple question: how does a always-on DSL connection cost in your countries? In Italy a 4096 Kbit/s line costs about 30 € per month (about 36 USD).
[ITA] Tozzi ha ragione: Gaia si sta liberando di noi. [ENG] Tozzi is right: Gaia is obliterating us.
I live in Windsor, Ontario (Canada) and I pay $CAN 44.95 (approx 30 Euros) for 5Mbps. I use Cable and DSL here has the same price. For 300 Kbps the price is $CAN 29.95 (20 Euros). The maximum you could buy is 10Mbps $CAN 69.95 (48 Euros). But you also have upload/download bit caps, email space, webspace, free security services, etc. For 5Mbps you get 15Gb upload/download, 100 Mb of email space, 10 Mb of webspace, 7 email addresses, and 3 IP addresses. For 10Mbps you get everything mentioned above, plus 30Gb of upload/download. Dario Solera wrote: [ITA] Tozzi ha ragione: Gaia si sta liberando di noi. [ENG] Tozzi is right: Gaia is obliterating us. Just a suggestion...I believe that a closer English interpretation of "Gaia si sta liberando di noi" would be "Gaia is getting rid of us". Time is the fire in which we burn. -- modified at 18:41 Wednesday 31st August, 2005
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Only a simple question: how does a always-on DSL connection cost in your countries? In Italy a 4096 Kbit/s line costs about 30 € per month (about 36 USD).
[ITA] Tozzi ha ragione: Gaia si sta liberando di noi. [ENG] Tozzi is right: Gaia is obliterating us.
I have cable at home and pay ~$30 per month for a 3Mbs/384Kbs (part of cable package) at work we have a DSL which measures 2.5Mbs / 605Kbs and we pay ~$30 per month. Steve
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Only a simple question: how does a always-on DSL connection cost in your countries? In Italy a 4096 Kbit/s line costs about 30 € per month (about 36 USD).
[ITA] Tozzi ha ragione: Gaia si sta liberando di noi. [ENG] Tozzi is right: Gaia is obliterating us.
I heard on the radio today that DSL high speed with MTS is 29.95 for the first 12 months... Shaw high speed cable is about $35.00/Month... For the last 4 years or so we've had MTS and Shaw battle for our business which has resulted in much cheaper internet, but constantly changing email addresses :) Cheers :) It's frustrating being a genius and living the life of a moron!!!
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Only a simple question: how does a always-on DSL connection cost in your countries? In Italy a 4096 Kbit/s line costs about 30 € per month (about 36 USD).
[ITA] Tozzi ha ragione: Gaia si sta liberando di noi. [ENG] Tozzi is right: Gaia is obliterating us.
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I've been seriously considering switching from my Satillite system (Starband)to SBC DSL. You seem to be happy with it. How does it compare to the cable systems? Have you had connection problems, support, service problems, etc? "Capitalism is the source of all true freedom."
Honestly, the first few years sucked. I was a beta tester for the area of Connecticut that I lived in. I couldn't get a connection with the DSl modem for about 2 months. It seemed like once a week I would have a technician at my place trying to get it to work under Windows 2000. Anyhow, since they couldn't get it to work, they gave me a DSL router instead of the modem. I figured that the router would work because there was no software installation involved for the PC. And, in fact, it worked perfectly. I've been using the same DSL router since 1999 and I love it. The download speeds are consitently on the high end (1.5 Mbs). My new house that I built 2.5 years ago has all brand new telephone lines, and I'm only 200 feet from the CO, so I could easily get the 3.0 Mbs connection if I wanted to pay extra. Some of my neighbors have Cablevision for their cable providers and the speed is really good, but they have outages more than I do. I have had one outage in my new place over the past 2.5 years, while the cable people (my tv included) have had a few more than that. It all depends on your internal lines, whether you have underground utilities or not, and how far you are away from your CO on whether the service is worth it. I've been fortunate. :) Regards, Brigg Brigg Thorp Senior Software Engineer Timex Corporation
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Only a simple question: how does a always-on DSL connection cost in your countries? In Italy a 4096 Kbit/s line costs about 30 € per month (about 36 USD).
[ITA] Tozzi ha ragione: Gaia si sta liberando di noi. [ENG] Tozzi is right: Gaia is obliterating us.
Sydney: 1.5 Mbps down / 256kbps up, 40GB downloads per month = approx US$ 65.00 per month. 1.5 mbps download speed seems to be the highest available here (residential adsl that is). thanks to your survey i just checked and i can downgrade to 20GB downloads and save about US$14!
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Only a simple question: how does a always-on DSL connection cost in your countries? In Italy a 4096 Kbit/s line costs about 30 € per month (about 36 USD).
[ITA] Tozzi ha ragione: Gaia si sta liberando di noi. [ENG] Tozzi is right: Gaia is obliterating us.
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Only a simple question: how does a always-on DSL connection cost in your countries? In Italy a 4096 Kbit/s line costs about 30 € per month (about 36 USD).
[ITA] Tozzi ha ragione: Gaia si sta liberando di noi. [ENG] Tozzi is right: Gaia is obliterating us.
In Mexico I have 1MBps/256 Kbps for MXN $599, that is about USD $55. -- LuisR
Luis Alonso Ramos Intelectix - Chihuahua, Mexico Not much here: My CP Blog!
The amount of sleep the average person needs is five more minutes. -- Vikram A Punathambekar, Aug. 11, 2005
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Sydney: 1.5 Mbps down / 256kbps up, 40GB downloads per month = approx US$ 65.00 per month. 1.5 mbps download speed seems to be the highest available here (residential adsl that is). thanks to your survey i just checked and i can downgrade to 20GB downloads and save about US$14!
I'm glad to see I was helpful.
[ITA] Tozzi ha ragione: Gaia si sta liberando di noi. [ENG] Tozzi is right: Gaia is obliterating us.
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Only a simple question: how does a always-on DSL connection cost in your countries? In Italy a 4096 Kbit/s line costs about 30 € per month (about 36 USD).
[ITA] Tozzi ha ragione: Gaia si sta liberando di noi. [ENG] Tozzi is right: Gaia is obliterating us.
ADSL1: 1500/256, 60GB/mo, $129.95* (Internode) ADSL2+: 24Mbit/1Mbit, 40GB/mo, $60.00*/mo. (Adam Internet) Hopefully I'll be getting access to ADSL2+ pretty soon ;) I long for the day when all telephone exchanges are ADSL2+ compatible. * all prices in AUD. -- modified at 2:36 Thursday 1st September, 2005
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In Mexico I have 1MBps/256 Kbps for MXN $599, that is about USD $55. -- LuisR
Luis Alonso Ramos Intelectix - Chihuahua, Mexico Not much here: My CP Blog!
The amount of sleep the average person needs is five more minutes. -- Vikram A Punathambekar, Aug. 11, 2005
So I have an idea of what the ISPs can become around the world. I've noticed that many Internet access contracts imply a limit in the monthly traffic. Here in Italy this *habit* doesn't exist. Your ISP measures the connection time only, or you have a flat rate, without traffic limitations. Maybe measuring the traffic is a little more *fair* to the customer, because he can waste money only for thinking a moment during surfing... Conclusion: Internet access in Italy is cheap and good enough. The only problem is that we have only 4 or 5 big (and *reliable*) ISPs, so they make the same offers and the *winner* ISP is usually the one who have direct access to your house (I mean with its own wires). Even the special offers come all at the same moment and all with the same characteristics.
[ITA] Tozzi ha ragione: Gaia si sta liberando di noi. [ENG] Tozzi is right: Gaia is obliterating us.
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ADSL1: 1500/256, 60GB/mo, $129.95* (Internode) ADSL2+: 24Mbit/1Mbit, 40GB/mo, $60.00*/mo. (Adam Internet) Hopefully I'll be getting access to ADSL2+ pretty soon ;) I long for the day when all telephone exchanges are ADSL2+ compatible. * all prices in AUD. -- modified at 2:36 Thursday 1st September, 2005
ADSL2+ ... wow :). I've also heard something about HDSL, that should be some kind of symmetric DSL, i.e. download and upload speeds are equal. The rates are still to expensive, something like 90 €/mo (no traffic limitations), about 100 USD/mo for 8 MBit/s lines.
[ITA] Tozzi ha ragione: Gaia si sta liberando di noi. [ENG] Tozzi is right: Gaia is obliterating us.
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ADSL2+ ... wow :). I've also heard something about HDSL, that should be some kind of symmetric DSL, i.e. download and upload speeds are equal. The rates are still to expensive, something like 90 €/mo (no traffic limitations), about 100 USD/mo for 8 MBit/s lines.
[ITA] Tozzi ha ragione: Gaia si sta liberando di noi. [ENG] Tozzi is right: Gaia is obliterating us.
Sadly, it takes quite a while to upgrade a telephone exchange for ADSL2+ so the full rollout will take some time. It's great to be finally catching up to the rest of the world in terms of Internet access. With Australia also being the test bed for WiMAX, things should start looking pretty good ;) We have SDSL but the prices are a lot more expensive, and it's only for ADSL1. There are no ADSL2+ providers offering symmetric services here, well, not yet (I don't even know if it's possible *shrug*). Then again, with 1mbit upload (depending on a few things), I doubt anyone will need much more than that. How many people run high traffic servers from their bedrooms? ;)
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Sadly, it takes quite a while to upgrade a telephone exchange for ADSL2+ so the full rollout will take some time. It's great to be finally catching up to the rest of the world in terms of Internet access. With Australia also being the test bed for WiMAX, things should start looking pretty good ;) We have SDSL but the prices are a lot more expensive, and it's only for ADSL1. There are no ADSL2+ providers offering symmetric services here, well, not yet (I don't even know if it's possible *shrug*). Then again, with 1mbit upload (depending on a few things), I doubt anyone will need much more than that. How many people run high traffic servers from their bedrooms? ;)
Some days ago I was searching some offers about server housing in various datacenters. Well, the prices are about 200 USD/mo or more, including some GB of traffic and a peak bw of 512 kbit/s j(:sigh:). So I thought that with a valid DSL line, with public IP (such as the mine), the problem can be solved without problems. You can buy DNS managing for somthing like 10 USD/year.
[ITA] Tozzi ha ragione: Gaia si sta liberando di noi. [ENG] Tozzi is right: Gaia is obliterating us.
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Some days ago I was searching some offers about server housing in various datacenters. Well, the prices are about 200 USD/mo or more, including some GB of traffic and a peak bw of 512 kbit/s j(:sigh:). So I thought that with a valid DSL line, with public IP (such as the mine), the problem can be solved without problems. You can buy DNS managing for somthing like 10 USD/year.
[ITA] Tozzi ha ragione: Gaia si sta liberando di noi. [ENG] Tozzi is right: Gaia is obliterating us.
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So I have an idea of what the ISPs can become around the world. I've noticed that many Internet access contracts imply a limit in the monthly traffic. Here in Italy this *habit* doesn't exist. Your ISP measures the connection time only, or you have a flat rate, without traffic limitations. Maybe measuring the traffic is a little more *fair* to the customer, because he can waste money only for thinking a moment during surfing... Conclusion: Internet access in Italy is cheap and good enough. The only problem is that we have only 4 or 5 big (and *reliable*) ISPs, so they make the same offers and the *winner* ISP is usually the one who have direct access to your house (I mean with its own wires). Even the special offers come all at the same moment and all with the same characteristics.
[ITA] Tozzi ha ragione: Gaia si sta liberando di noi. [ENG] Tozzi is right: Gaia is obliterating us.
We don't have a bandwidth limit either. The only thing I don't like is that the upload speed is just so slow. And also, it's very reliable. It's ironic, but yesterday and the day before I had the only problem I've had with them in almost a year: everything was soooo slow! -- LuisR
Luis Alonso Ramos Intelectix - Chihuahua, Mexico Not much here: My CP Blog!
The amount of sleep the average person needs is five more minutes. -- Vikram A Punathambekar, Aug. 11, 2005