CP Jabber Server?
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I was hunting for a public Jabber server to register with when i found that I didn't trust any of them, and the more 'trustworthy' ones wern't feature-rich enough. How difficult would it be to have a CP Jabber server? Either public or CP user only. CP hosts it's own servers, why not have one run a jabber server too. Chris, feel free to tell me to piss off because your servers are hard work enough already. Jabber is a growing IM network and has more future than the propriatory networks IMHO. I'd use a ...@jabber.codeproject.com (or another shorter domain talk.codeproject.com maybe) account. How about the rest of you? If anyone knows a good Jabber server btw, I'll take suggestions still.
Jonathan Newman blog.nonny.com [^]
Who don't know exactly whay Jabber is, what is the advantage of Jabber over other IM, e.g., ICQ & MSN?
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Who don't know exactly whay Jabber is, what is the advantage of Jabber over other IM, e.g., ICQ & MSN?
It is: Free Open Source Decentralised (servers talk to each other like email servers do) Ad-free Fast and solid standard (XML based) Completely cross-platofrm There is lots of choice of servers and clients, so it gets better all the time with competition. Plus it's a true simple IM system, none of these winks/nudges and other crap features that adds to the overhead and memory of other networks. The only thing it needs is users. And the good thing is, a lot of clients can support more than one network in one interface, so moving over isn't that bad. Here[^] is a good artcle about the future of IM and Jabber.
Jonathan Newman blog.nonny.com [^]
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I was hunting for a public Jabber server to register with when i found that I didn't trust any of them, and the more 'trustworthy' ones wern't feature-rich enough. How difficult would it be to have a CP Jabber server? Either public or CP user only. CP hosts it's own servers, why not have one run a jabber server too. Chris, feel free to tell me to piss off because your servers are hard work enough already. Jabber is a growing IM network and has more future than the propriatory networks IMHO. I'd use a ...@jabber.codeproject.com (or another shorter domain talk.codeproject.com maybe) account. How about the rest of you? If anyone knows a good Jabber server btw, I'll take suggestions still.
Jonathan Newman blog.nonny.com [^]
Good idea Jon. But I'd say only if it didn't affect the CP bandwidth too much. Regards, Brian Dela :-) Blog^ Co-author of The Outlook Answer Book... Go on, pre-order^ it today! Regular Expression Library builder^
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I was hunting for a public Jabber server to register with when i found that I didn't trust any of them, and the more 'trustworthy' ones wern't feature-rich enough. How difficult would it be to have a CP Jabber server? Either public or CP user only. CP hosts it's own servers, why not have one run a jabber server too. Chris, feel free to tell me to piss off because your servers are hard work enough already. Jabber is a growing IM network and has more future than the propriatory networks IMHO. I'd use a ...@jabber.codeproject.com (or another shorter domain talk.codeproject.com maybe) account. How about the rest of you? If anyone knows a good Jabber server btw, I'll take suggestions still.
Jonathan Newman blog.nonny.com [^]
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I was hunting for a public Jabber server to register with when i found that I didn't trust any of them, and the more 'trustworthy' ones wern't feature-rich enough. How difficult would it be to have a CP Jabber server? Either public or CP user only. CP hosts it's own servers, why not have one run a jabber server too. Chris, feel free to tell me to piss off because your servers are hard work enough already. Jabber is a growing IM network and has more future than the propriatory networks IMHO. I'd use a ...@jabber.codeproject.com (or another shorter domain talk.codeproject.com maybe) account. How about the rest of you? If anyone knows a good Jabber server btw, I'll take suggestions still.
Jonathan Newman blog.nonny.com [^]
If Chris does this, then we have to have a Code Project IM jabber client contest ... regardless of the requirements that Chris dictates, it should have Bob in it somewhere. Just a thought. :-D
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If Chris does this, then we have to have a Code Project IM jabber client contest ... regardless of the requirements that Chris dictates, it should have Bob in it somewhere. Just a thought. :-D
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I was hunting for a public Jabber server to register with when i found that I didn't trust any of them, and the more 'trustworthy' ones wern't feature-rich enough. How difficult would it be to have a CP Jabber server? Either public or CP user only. CP hosts it's own servers, why not have one run a jabber server too. Chris, feel free to tell me to piss off because your servers are hard work enough already. Jabber is a growing IM network and has more future than the propriatory networks IMHO. I'd use a ...@jabber.codeproject.com (or another shorter domain talk.codeproject.com maybe) account. How about the rest of you? If anyone knows a good Jabber server btw, I'll take suggestions still.
Jonathan Newman blog.nonny.com [^]
Jon Newman wrote: i found that I didn't trust any of them, Jon Newman wrote: and the more 'trustworthy' ones wern't feature-rich enough. Jon Newman wrote: If anyone knows a good Jabber server btw, From your original quotes, I can't see how you can say Jon Newman wrote: Jabber is a growing IM network and has more future than the propriatory networks IMHO. Michael CP Blog [^] Development Blog [^]
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I was hunting for a public Jabber server to register with when i found that I didn't trust any of them, and the more 'trustworthy' ones wern't feature-rich enough. How difficult would it be to have a CP Jabber server? Either public or CP user only. CP hosts it's own servers, why not have one run a jabber server too. Chris, feel free to tell me to piss off because your servers are hard work enough already. Jabber is a growing IM network and has more future than the propriatory networks IMHO. I'd use a ...@jabber.codeproject.com (or another shorter domain talk.codeproject.com maybe) account. How about the rest of you? If anyone knows a good Jabber server btw, I'll take suggestions still.
Jonathan Newman blog.nonny.com [^]
I've been shying away from Jabber for a while now, for the simple reason that i can't use it at work - none of the clients i've tried work with my employer's NTLM proxy. Even Trillian, which works just fine for other services, fails. Anyone have any suggestions?
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Jon Newman wrote: i found that I didn't trust any of them, Jon Newman wrote: and the more 'trustworthy' ones wern't feature-rich enough. Jon Newman wrote: If anyone knows a good Jabber server btw, From your original quotes, I can't see how you can say Jon Newman wrote: Jabber is a growing IM network and has more future than the propriatory networks IMHO. Michael CP Blog [^] Development Blog [^]
Ok, I'll clarify. I look at the lists of public servers, I see jabber.org and think "thats a good server" but then see that it only has a bare minimum of features. I also see 'freeserverz.muhahah.xxx.ru' (example) and think "that server might not be around long". Plus, I feel I need a server that is more personal to me. A lot of companies have internal Jabber servers that allow communication between other servers. So they have joe@company.com, which is a more personal handle than joe1999@jabber.org. I was also referring to the potential of Jabber, the fact that if some good stable servers are put up that are going to be here for a long time, people will use it.
Jonathan Newman blog.nonny.com [^]
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I've been shying away from Jabber for a while now, for the simple reason that i can't use it at work - none of the clients i've tried work with my employer's NTLM proxy. Even Trillian, which works just fine for other services, fails. Anyone have any suggestions?
Jabber uses standard HTTP and XML as far as I know...through one port (jabber.org will tell you the port number). If you enable that port, would it not work? Or have you tried this already...
Jonathan Newman blog.nonny.com [^]
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Jabber uses standard HTTP and XML as far as I know...through one port (jabber.org will tell you the port number). If you enable that port, would it not work? Or have you tried this already...
Jonathan Newman blog.nonny.com [^]
Sorry, i forgot to mention - it's a HTTP proxy only - port 80, port 443. [Edit: but i doubt that's the real problem - NTLM authentication is non-trivial, and many programs don't support it.]
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Sorry, i forgot to mention - it's a HTTP proxy only - port 80, port 443. [Edit: but i doubt that's the real problem - NTLM authentication is non-trivial, and many programs don't support it.]
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Some servers run on port 80. But not all. Maybe that could be worked into any CP servers set up.
Jonathan Newman blog.nonny.com [^]
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It is: Free Open Source Decentralised (servers talk to each other like email servers do) Ad-free Fast and solid standard (XML based) Completely cross-platofrm There is lots of choice of servers and clients, so it gets better all the time with competition. Plus it's a true simple IM system, none of these winks/nudges and other crap features that adds to the overhead and memory of other networks. The only thing it needs is users. And the good thing is, a lot of clients can support more than one network in one interface, so moving over isn't that bad. Here[^] is a good artcle about the future of IM and Jabber.
Jonathan Newman blog.nonny.com [^]
I think that another plus is that it can be used within companies for secure communication, they can have their own private server and use SSL secured communication with clients anywhere in the world, if I understand it correctly. We've played with it for a while, but I'm not using it on a daily basis, mainly because I didn't really like a lot of Windows clients. I really like MSN Messenger client, their interface looked just... clean and easy, together with a very nice smileys. I've used the past tense (looked) because I don't like what they've made with it with the recent versions (7.x, even 6.x). They've added so many useless "features" like the animated winks, and it will scream at you several times a day to upgrade to the latest version that you'll eventually give up and upgrade one day. The only thing that I like about the 7.0 is the personal message, which allows me to differentiate between the computers, i.e. everyone sees from which computer I'm signed in as I've got different personal messages sent. Btw, this is supported by Jabber as well - I think it's called "Resource" there. Just my $0.02 :) Rado
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