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  • S Steve Mayfield

    of New Orleans[^] :(( Steve

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    Although I personally do not know anyone from the gulf coast area, and live in michigan, I find that I am going numbly thru the motions of my daily routine, which is very similar to how I reacted to the 9/11 terrorist attacks. This natural disaster is unfortunately much more widespread in land area and it will no doubt take many months, if not years, to clean up. That is if no other hurricanes cross the gulf in the near future. It is known that due to global warming, tropical storms and hurricanes will increase in number, size, and category. This fact may cause most of the southern atlantic and gulf coasts of the U.S. to be uninhabitable in the future.:sigh: D. D. Lang

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      yea, that's such a big tragedy. :(( I realy feel with the people and hope that Bush will accept the international help.

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      They aren't refusing international aide, just refusing entry to teams of international aide workers for obvious reasons. If the USA was short-handed then I would say the goverment would be morally obligated to take their chances on letting a few terrorists slip into the USA along with foreign aide workers who would obviously not undergo the normal screening required to gain entry into the USA. But personnel isn't really the problem here; the National Guard in the three main affected States is at 70-80% of full strength locally (the rest deployed overseas) and thousands of individuals from all over the country are streaming to the area after undergoing short training boot-camps with the Red Cross. The immediate huge humanitarian crisis (the survivors trapped in the devastated area) will be handled by those already here before foreign aide workers could be in a position to make a difference. The longer term crisis--the clean up and reconstruction of the area--could obviously benefit from every extrqa hand available, especially as local individual volunteers have to return to their own responsibilites, but simply speeding up the reconstruction process is probably not worth the future risk to the country. Personally, I think this is one area in which the government got it right. Steve T

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        yea, that's such a big tragedy. :(( I realy feel with the people and hope that Bush will accept the international help.

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        On MSNBC, they said that the US has already stated that it will accept *all* offers of help from other nations. Program Manager - MSDN Online Vista/WPF (Avalon)/XAML MICROSOFT

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          Although I personally do not know anyone from the gulf coast area, and live in michigan, I find that I am going numbly thru the motions of my daily routine, which is very similar to how I reacted to the 9/11 terrorist attacks. This natural disaster is unfortunately much more widespread in land area and it will no doubt take many months, if not years, to clean up. That is if no other hurricanes cross the gulf in the near future. It is known that due to global warming, tropical storms and hurricanes will increase in number, size, and category. This fact may cause most of the southern atlantic and gulf coasts of the U.S. to be uninhabitable in the future.:sigh: D. D. Lang

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          k0anster wrote: I find that I am going numbly thru the motions of my daily routine, which is very similar to how I reacted to the 9/11 terrorist attacks. In my case, I'm not. The destruction of physical things is terrible, but I place responsibility very squarely on the shoulders of those people that are in that situation. Rape, murder, shooting at rescue teams, is simply unacceptable. This isn't a tragedy brought on by some terrorists, where everyone is a victim. This is a tragedy brought on by people who should be teaming together to help each other, not kill each other, not loot stores for drugs and liquor, etc. [edit]And now I read that people are setting the city on fire. X| [/edit] k0anster wrote: It is known that due to global warming, tropical storms and hurricanes will increase in number, size, and category. No it's not. That's the media whipping the ignorant masses into a momentary frenzy based on a lot of questionable assumptions. Marc My website
          Latest Articles: Object Comparer String Helpers -- modified at 22:19 Friday 2nd September, 2005

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            On MSNBC, they said that the US has already stated that it will accept *all* offers of help from other nations. Program Manager - MSDN Online Vista/WPF (Avalon)/XAML MICROSOFT

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            I know from our local news that at least one team from Canada (The Vancouver Urban Search & Rescue Team)[^] has been deployed and is actively working in New Orleans now. I suspect it's the same for teams being sent from other countries. Cheers, Drew. -- modified at 1:33 Saturday 3rd September, 2005 (Link added)

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            • S Steve Mayfield

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              The most moving and saddest pictures coming out of New Orleans are all from ground level that I've seen so far. Judging by those pictures New Orleans can be rebuilt, some of the tsunami hit areas simply don't exist anymore to rebuild on, those were truly shocking before and after photos; entire peninsulas gone underwater, scoured away, islands not even there anymore. What really struck me about New Orleans was how thin and small the walls around the levy or waterways are. There was an aerial shot on CNN showing the army piling rocks into the break on what looks like a waterway and the walls that were still there look more suited to be highway traffic barrier than something designed to hold back serious amounts of water. I hope when they rebuild they get serious about the flood control systems because they seem to be pretty shaky to start with. Maybe consider pumps that don't lose power and aren't in a position to flood themselves woudl be a good starting point. I don't see how anyone is going to sell insurance for rebuilding until some basics are taken care of first.


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                yea, that's such a big tragedy. :(( I realy feel with the people and hope that Bush will accept the international help.

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                I would just like to know "where is corporate America"? You know, MS, DELL, IBM, HP, etc.. They have sucked money for decades and they could change this overnight.. Yeah, I know, they might give a few million eventually, but if dug into their pockets they could cover a large part of the the relief and rebuilding. Rocky <>< My Blog[^]

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                  I would just like to know "where is corporate America"? You know, MS, DELL, IBM, HP, etc.. They have sucked money for decades and they could change this overnight.. Yeah, I know, they might give a few million eventually, but if dug into their pockets they could cover a large part of the the relief and rebuilding. Rocky <>< My Blog[^]

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                  If you went to the company web sites you'd know what those companies you listed have done so far, not eventually. MS - donated $1 million to Red Cross and others Michael & Susan Dell Foundation pledged $5 million IBM - $1 million immediate support of tech and services, with more support to clients in the future HP - $1 million + up to $1 million additional in matching employee donations also, Home Depot is helping to clean up, as they did in Florida last year. They help their employees who have been displaced as well as others. They also match employee contributions to The Homer Fund, an emergency assistance fund. Walmart is send ing computers, beds, water, prescriptin drugs, etc.... In their own way corporate America is doing it's share too. You just need to look a little bit. BW


                  Meanwhile, behind the facade of this innocent looking bookstore...

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                    If you went to the company web sites you'd know what those companies you listed have done so far, not eventually. MS - donated $1 million to Red Cross and others Michael & Susan Dell Foundation pledged $5 million IBM - $1 million immediate support of tech and services, with more support to clients in the future HP - $1 million + up to $1 million additional in matching employee donations also, Home Depot is helping to clean up, as they did in Florida last year. They help their employees who have been displaced as well as others. They also match employee contributions to The Homer Fund, an emergency assistance fund. Walmart is send ing computers, beds, water, prescriptin drugs, etc.... In their own way corporate America is doing it's share too. You just need to look a little bit. BW


                    Meanwhile, behind the facade of this innocent looking bookstore...

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                    Trivial! Rocky <>< My Blog[^]

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                      Trivial! Rocky <>< My Blog[^]

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                      On the grand scale of things, perhaps, but I see it as a good effort. We'll have to be on opposite side on this one. BW


                      Meanwhile, behind the facade of this innocent looking bookstore...

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