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"On top of that, consumers should expect punishment for tinkering with their Blu-ray players, as many have done with current DVD players, for instance to remove regional coding. The new, Internet-connected and secure players will report any "hack" and the device can be disabled remotely." taken from http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/ptech/09/02/dvd.format.war.reut/index.html[^] ... do they _really_ think people will buy dvd players that are connected to the content owners in real time and can be switched off at will??!!?? what drugs do these people take???? :wtf:
l a u r e n wrote: what drugs do these people take???? I don't know but they must be good. I really don't know why the **AAs are so woried about average joe consumer. So what if some of them do make a copy here and there. Why don't they worry about the huge organized piracy rings in southeast asia that are making hundreds of thousands of copies and turning around and selling them on the streets?
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"On top of that, consumers should expect punishment for tinkering with their Blu-ray players, as many have done with current DVD players, for instance to remove regional coding. The new, Internet-connected and secure players will report any "hack" and the device can be disabled remotely." taken from http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/ptech/09/02/dvd.format.war.reut/index.html[^] ... do they _really_ think people will buy dvd players that are connected to the content owners in real time and can be switched off at will??!!?? what drugs do these people take???? :wtf:
You have got to be kidding. You would think they would learn that every time they make these "secure, uncrackable formats" that programmers like DVD Jon are going to step up and write software to unlock the "secure, uncrackable formats". And having a DVD player connected to the net so the Blu-Ray association can turn it off at will is not my idea of fun. Maybe they could focus on being more consumer friendly. Y'know, like not milking us for all we're worth every time we want to want to buy a DVD. That'd be a start. I, myself, don't pirate...but have they ever considered that maybe they'd have less of a piracy problem if everything was more reasonably priced... But what do I know? I'm obviously not a multi-billion dollar executive...
[Cheshire] I can't afford those plastic things to cover the electric sockets so I just draw bunny faces on the electric outlets to scare the kids away from them... [RLtim] Newsflash! Kids aren't afraid of bunnies. [Cheshire] Oh they will be... -Bash.org
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"On top of that, consumers should expect punishment for tinkering with their Blu-ray players, as many have done with current DVD players, for instance to remove regional coding. The new, Internet-connected and secure players will report any "hack" and the device can be disabled remotely." taken from http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/ptech/09/02/dvd.format.war.reut/index.html[^] ... do they _really_ think people will buy dvd players that are connected to the content owners in real time and can be switched off at will??!!?? what drugs do these people take???? :wtf:
l a u r e n wrote: do they _really_ think people will buy dvd players that are connected to the content owners in real time and can be switched off at will You have a very high opinion of "people".
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"On top of that, consumers should expect punishment for tinkering with their Blu-ray players, as many have done with current DVD players, for instance to remove regional coding. The new, Internet-connected and secure players will report any "hack" and the device can be disabled remotely." taken from http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/ptech/09/02/dvd.format.war.reut/index.html[^] ... do they _really_ think people will buy dvd players that are connected to the content owners in real time and can be switched off at will??!!?? what drugs do these people take???? :wtf:
Well the only way for that to work is to be connected to the internet which could be disconnected. Sure they could get around this by requiring it to be connected to the internet to playback movies. This would definitely be a huge privacy issue that would not escape widespread press. Hopefully they will do this it will probably knock them down a peg Matt Newman
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Well the only way for that to work is to be connected to the internet which could be disconnected. Sure they could get around this by requiring it to be connected to the internet to playback movies. This would definitely be a huge privacy issue that would not escape widespread press. Hopefully they will do this it will probably knock them down a peg Matt Newman
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I really doubt that people would purchase something that requires a "monthly subscription" to operate - that what "requires internet access" would amount to. The players would have to support dial up and high speed connections and deal with the many different logon procedures...doomed at the start...who would want their phone line tied up for an entire movie viewing... X| :uncool: Steve
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Well the only way for that to work is to be connected to the internet which could be disconnected. Sure they could get around this by requiring it to be connected to the internet to playback movies. This would definitely be a huge privacy issue that would not escape widespread press. Hopefully they will do this it will probably knock them down a peg Matt Newman
Even the very best tools in the hands of an idiot will produce something of little or no value. - Chris Meech on Idiots
They could require the player to be connected once a month.
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l a u r e n wrote: what drugs do these people take???? I don't know but they must be good. I really don't know why the **AAs are so woried about average joe consumer. So what if some of them do make a copy here and there. Why don't they worry about the huge organized piracy rings in southeast asia that are making hundreds of thousands of copies and turning around and selling them on the streets?
Found on Bash.org [erno] hm. I've lost a machine.. literally _lost_. it responds to ping, it works completely, I just can't figure out where in my apartment it is.
Steve McLenithan wrote: and selling them on the streets? Are you kidding? I was just in Vanuatu (Port Vila) and they weren't being sold at the markets, the real DVD stores there had nothing but pirate software and DVDs. And they weren't much cheaper than you would pay in Australia for a real DVD. Ever seen Microsoft Application 2005 ? (thats Vt.2800 = ~USD$24 - all the DVDs were about that price, even the handicam shot ones) The company (yes real registered company) that makes them has the disclaimer at the bottom "All rights of the reproduced reserved" :omg: I particulary liked the boxes for the Xbox copies ("Only for XGame") and PS2 ("Only for PlayGame"). I must say I was completely shocked about how open it was. I knew piracy was bad, but I never knew real stores and real companies would be involved in such a way.
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You have got to be kidding. You would think they would learn that every time they make these "secure, uncrackable formats" that programmers like DVD Jon are going to step up and write software to unlock the "secure, uncrackable formats". And having a DVD player connected to the net so the Blu-Ray association can turn it off at will is not my idea of fun. Maybe they could focus on being more consumer friendly. Y'know, like not milking us for all we're worth every time we want to want to buy a DVD. That'd be a start. I, myself, don't pirate...but have they ever considered that maybe they'd have less of a piracy problem if everything was more reasonably priced... But what do I know? I'm obviously not a multi-billion dollar executive...
[Cheshire] I can't afford those plastic things to cover the electric sockets so I just draw bunny faces on the electric outlets to scare the kids away from them... [RLtim] Newsflash! Kids aren't afraid of bunnies. [Cheshire] Oh they will be... -Bash.org
Exactly my thougts. They probably don't know that those, who want to pirate it, will find a way, and that their special "anti-piracy" mechanisms will only bug those who just want to watch the movies they have purchased.
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Well the only way for that to work is to be connected to the internet which could be disconnected. Sure they could get around this by requiring it to be connected to the internet to playback movies. This would definitely be a huge privacy issue that would not escape widespread press. Hopefully they will do this it will probably knock them down a peg Matt Newman
Even the very best tools in the hands of an idiot will produce something of little or no value. - Chris Meech on Idiots
Matt Newman wrote: Sure they could get around this by requiring it to be connected to the internet to playback movies. This would definitely be a huge privacy issue Nah, they'll justify it by allowing you to download valuable ads, just after that stupid FBI logo you can't skip... I see dead pixels Yes, even I am blogging now!
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Well the only way for that to work is to be connected to the internet which could be disconnected. Sure they could get around this by requiring it to be connected to the internet to playback movies. This would definitely be a huge privacy issue that would not escape widespread press. Hopefully they will do this it will probably knock them down a peg Matt Newman
Even the very best tools in the hands of an idiot will produce something of little or no value. - Chris Meech on Idiots
My SKY Box is supposed to be connected to the telephone line. It dials a free phone number every-so-often for some nefarious reason (I don't know what its doing) so I just unhooked the cable. It displays a message each time I turn it on that it could not find a phone line but it continues to work. There was a report on BBC's Watchdog programme about a family whose sky box was misconfigured and it phoned the speaking clock. Because it obviously couldn't establish a connection, it would continue to try again and again. When the phone bill came in they were utterly shocked. When they eventually tracked down what it was it took the BBC's help to get Sky to cough up some compensation for the excessive phone bill.
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"On top of that, consumers should expect punishment for tinkering with their Blu-ray players, as many have done with current DVD players, for instance to remove regional coding. The new, Internet-connected and secure players will report any "hack" and the device can be disabled remotely." taken from http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/ptech/09/02/dvd.format.war.reut/index.html[^] ... do they _really_ think people will buy dvd players that are connected to the content owners in real time and can be switched off at will??!!?? what drugs do these people take???? :wtf:
It'd be nice if Hollywood et al would worry more about improving content rather than protecting the crappy content they currently have. Marc My website Traceract
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They could require the player to be connected once a month.
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boost your code || Fold With Us! || sighist | doxygenMy TV and DVD player are nowhere near a phone line or any form of internet connection. I'd have to run extra cables for no added benefit to me. Screw that. regards, Paul Watson South Africa Colib and WebTwoZero. K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!
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My SKY Box is supposed to be connected to the telephone line. It dials a free phone number every-so-often for some nefarious reason (I don't know what its doing) so I just unhooked the cable. It displays a message each time I turn it on that it could not find a phone line but it continues to work. There was a report on BBC's Watchdog programme about a family whose sky box was misconfigured and it phoned the speaking clock. Because it obviously couldn't establish a connection, it would continue to try again and again. When the phone bill came in they were utterly shocked. When they eventually tracked down what it was it took the BBC's help to get Sky to cough up some compensation for the excessive phone bill.
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Jesus, that is a point that you are paying for this feature with the phone connections. What a lot of rot. regards, Paul Watson South Africa Colib and WebTwoZero. K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!
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My TV and DVD player are nowhere near a phone line or any form of internet connection. I'd have to run extra cables for no added benefit to me. Screw that. regards, Paul Watson South Africa Colib and WebTwoZero. K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!
I'm sure they'll offer you wireless access, and a ISP deal you can#t miss :) my point being that people probably will buy into that. After all, every second CD you buy is Copy Challenged.
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They could require the player to be connected once a month.
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You have got to be kidding. You would think they would learn that every time they make these "secure, uncrackable formats" that programmers like DVD Jon are going to step up and write software to unlock the "secure, uncrackable formats". And having a DVD player connected to the net so the Blu-Ray association can turn it off at will is not my idea of fun. Maybe they could focus on being more consumer friendly. Y'know, like not milking us for all we're worth every time we want to want to buy a DVD. That'd be a start. I, myself, don't pirate...but have they ever considered that maybe they'd have less of a piracy problem if everything was more reasonably priced... But what do I know? I'm obviously not a multi-billion dollar executive...
[Cheshire] I can't afford those plastic things to cover the electric sockets so I just draw bunny faces on the electric outlets to scare the kids away from them... [RLtim] Newsflash! Kids aren't afraid of bunnies. [Cheshire] Oh they will be... -Bash.org
David Stone wrote: that programmers like DVD Jon are going to step up and write software to unlock the "secure, uncrackable formats". Actually, I thought it was only DVD Jon. That guy seems to crack every form of DRM in sight. Apparently he's just cracked the new Windows Media streaming format.... http://nanocrew.net/[^]
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It'd be nice if Hollywood et al would worry more about improving content rather than protecting the crappy content they currently have. Marc My website Traceract
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"On top of that, consumers should expect punishment for tinkering with their Blu-ray players, as many have done with current DVD players, for instance to remove regional coding. The new, Internet-connected and secure players will report any "hack" and the device can be disabled remotely." taken from http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/ptech/09/02/dvd.format.war.reut/index.html[^] ... do they _really_ think people will buy dvd players that are connected to the content owners in real time and can be switched off at will??!!?? what drugs do these people take???? :wtf:
I won't buy such a device. I don't care how good it is. For that matter, if windows really does come with areas of my own computer walled off then I will for the first time start using linux. This DRM crap has gone off the charts.
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I won't buy such a device. I don't care how good it is. For that matter, if windows really does come with areas of my own computer walled off then I will for the first time start using linux. This DRM crap has gone off the charts.
i have to say that the drm crap is why i started using linux and why i am moving more and more that way ... 3 years ago i had a long discussion with a friend at ms who told me about the roadmap for the drm future ... i told him i would me moving to linux and i could see a lot more people doing the same at least for media content and stuff ... in fact it is now at the point where i have mplayer working better at web video than wmp consistently
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Steve McLenithan wrote: and selling them on the streets? Are you kidding? I was just in Vanuatu (Port Vila) and they weren't being sold at the markets, the real DVD stores there had nothing but pirate software and DVDs. And they weren't much cheaper than you would pay in Australia for a real DVD. Ever seen Microsoft Application 2005 ? (thats Vt.2800 = ~USD$24 - all the DVDs were about that price, even the handicam shot ones) The company (yes real registered company) that makes them has the disclaimer at the bottom "All rights of the reproduced reserved" :omg: I particulary liked the boxes for the Xbox copies ("Only for XGame") and PS2 ("Only for PlayGame"). I must say I was completely shocked about how open it was. I knew piracy was bad, but I never knew real stores and real companies would be involved in such a way.
Chris Ormerod wrote: e real DVD stores there had nothing but pirate software and DVDs. That reinforces my point even more:cool:
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