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  • L Larsenal

    Office 12 screens[[^](http://Office 12 screens)] - First spotted[^] by Tom Servo at C9.

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      Office 12 screens[[^](http://Office 12 screens)] - First spotted[^] by Tom Servo at C9.

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      Roland Bar
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      The Menu/Toolbar looks like a really mess X| Hope I have never to work with it in this way... [Edit]The Document Inspector is the only one that looks usefull in this screens.[/Edit] Greets Roland


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      • L Larsenal

        Office 12 screens[[^](http://Office 12 screens)] - First spotted[^] by Tom Servo at C9.

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        Michael P Butler
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        So are those screen running on Vista Aero or is Office 12 emulating the Vista Aero look? Knowing the 'not invented here' attitude of the Office team, they've probably written it themselves and I guess not in managed code either. Michael CP Blog [^] Development Blog [^]

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          Office 12 screens[[^](http://Office 12 screens)] - First spotted[^] by Tom Servo at C9.

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          Ashley van Gerven
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          Interesting. However I wish they'd get the basics right and then worry about the UI. For example, my to annoyances with outlook 2003: - whole application locks up while messages are downloading and being moved (i.e. message rules) - selecting a new message leaves previous message content in preview pane for sometimes several seconds while new message is previewed (should show little loading animation as far i'm concerned)

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            So are those screen running on Vista Aero or is Office 12 emulating the Vista Aero look? Knowing the 'not invented here' attitude of the Office team, they've probably written it themselves and I guess not in managed code either. Michael CP Blog [^] Development Blog [^]

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            Office 2004 for the Mac is one fo the few 'monolithic' apps around still. Normally Mac apps are essentially folders with all the resources kept separate from the Unix-based binaries. Not in office, no, everything is in one binary. Typical. MSN 5 for mac is bundle-based, as is VirtualPC. Just Office has to be the odd one out.


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              Yet another new UI? Yawn. I'll stick to using OpenOffice 2 - it does everything I need it to (and it also ships with an excellent equation editor).

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              Yeah, i recently switched to OpenOffice, after a hard drive failure and rebuild, and have been very impressed so far. OpenOffice, Firefox, Thunderbird and Sunbird. Sorted! :)

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                Office 12 screens[[^](http://Office 12 screens)] - First spotted[^] by Tom Servo at C9.

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                Well it sure is..... different than Office 2003.... X|


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                  Office 12 screens[[^](http://Office 12 screens)] - First spotted[^] by Tom Servo at C9.

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                  it could be because i am no longer a teenager, or perhaps just cos i am getting more and more busy, but why would i want to get used to a new UI with a new version of office? is the fancy new look supposed to sell it cos no one can work out what new features it offers that they actually want? god - i think it might be true, maybe i am the most cynical person i know :) i am still with office 2000, and i am not aware of any basic reason or need to upgrade to a newer version, and a new UI is rather low on the list of reasons for upgrading. however my Mother is interested in Office XP because the cat office assistant apparently has more animations. oh god, its true, the new UI is going to sell both office and windows vista *sigh* zen is the art of being at one with the two'ness

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                    Yeah, i recently switched to OpenOffice, after a hard drive failure and rebuild, and have been very impressed so far. OpenOffice, Firefox, Thunderbird and Sunbird. Sorted! :)

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                    OpenOffice is so slow........ :sigh:


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                      Office 12 screens[[^](http://Office 12 screens)] - First spotted[^] by Tom Servo at C9.

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                        Office 12 screens[[^](http://Office 12 screens)] - First spotted[^] by Tom Servo at C9.

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                          Office 12 screens[[^](http://Office 12 screens)] - First spotted[^] by Tom Servo at C9.

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                          Everybody seems to hate it, BUT I LOVE IT! :-D

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                              Office 2004 for the Mac is one fo the few 'monolithic' apps around still. Normally Mac apps are essentially folders with all the resources kept separate from the Unix-based binaries. Not in office, no, everything is in one binary. Typical. MSN 5 for mac is bundle-based, as is VirtualPC. Just Office has to be the odd one out.


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                              In all likelihood it's not one monolithic file. Macs allow apps to be placed into a package file to allow for easier installation, removal, etc. Granted apps don't have to use this technique, but it's available. Btw, it's like a pseudo file system inside the package file. FWIW, I think that's an awesome idea. It has always been easier to install remove software on Macs. In fact, that's yet another idea MS copied with the copy and past deployment for .NET. Jeremy Falcon

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                                Everybody seems to hate it, BUT I LOVE IT! :-D

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                                Well I would be curious to know what the ages/age groups are of the people who like or dislike the UI. I'm guessing that the folks who are a bit older (30+) and who've beening dealing with MS stuff for 10+ years will be less impressed with the UI. But that could be completely wrong too. For what it's worth, I'm over 30, and I think it looks ridiculous, for a variety of reasons: - too many damn colors - too many damn visual elements/styles, i.e. transparency, color gradients, 3D bevels, vertical gradients, horizontal gradients, ech. - tool bar buttons that look one way, vs. regualar buttons that look radically different - the stupid "glassy" look that while at first glance "looks" pretty, because it's a pretty effect, but I'm guessing just generally get's annoying over time, and because of the variety of colors involved (again the gradients, glowing highlight, etc) make the text harder to read. - visually it just makes me feel tired. The whole UI seems (again - I'd say Office 2003 falls under this as well) more to be driven by the developers saying "look at me - I can make gradients and fancy looking UI's" than any genuine benefit to the user. I cannot fathom my Mom and Dad being able to deal with this. Nor can I fathom your average computer user fealling at ease with the explosion of information presented to them. - poorly rendered icons - whats with the icons that look like they were designed for 16X16, then scaled up to 32X32 and then, to get rid of the horrid jaggies, had a gaussian blur filter run over them? Office 2003 has the same problem, it makes them hard to read and they just look like crap. With 60 billion in the bank can't MS hire graphic designer's to make clean, crisp icons? ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF!

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                                  OpenOffice is so slow........ :sigh:


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                                  Judah Gabriel Himango
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                                  I second that.

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                                    it could be because i am no longer a teenager, or perhaps just cos i am getting more and more busy, but why would i want to get used to a new UI with a new version of office? is the fancy new look supposed to sell it cos no one can work out what new features it offers that they actually want? god - i think it might be true, maybe i am the most cynical person i know :) i am still with office 2000, and i am not aware of any basic reason or need to upgrade to a newer version, and a new UI is rather low on the list of reasons for upgrading. however my Mother is interested in Office XP because the cat office assistant apparently has more animations. oh god, its true, the new UI is going to sell both office and windows vista *sigh* zen is the art of being at one with the two'ness

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                                    feline_dracoform wrote: oh god, its true, the new UI is going to sell both office and windows vista *sigh* No different than any other product's marketing plan. There's a reason the body styles of cars and trucks changes every few years: why would anyone buy a new truck that looks exactly the same as the one they have now? The insides might be significantly better but unless the difference is visible, people just won't bother buying it. Cheers, Drew.

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                                      Oh, I don't know. It doesn't look too bad, actually. However, they should have gone the whole way and just made the screen look like one of those screen displays on STNG instead of a 21st century imitation. Marc My website Traceract Understanding Simple Data Binding Diary Of A CEO - Preface

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                                        OpenOffice is so slow........ :sigh:


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                                        Isn't it Java-based? If so, then 'nuff said. :) Jeremy Falcon

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                                          Isn't it Java-based? If so, then 'nuff said. :) Jeremy Falcon

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                                          It's mostly C++ with some Java bits. It's all integrated through a networking interface. If you want to automate it, you have to open a port on your system. :-D


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