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IMHO, Firefox will slow down after prolong usage, 2 to 3 months. I will not haven't install Firefox if Opera have support for AI Roboform. Opera has so many cool features and it is secure and stable. 1)It can identity MSIE or Mozilla. 2)To close the tab, u can either double click on it or click the tab close button. You don't need much mouse movement to close the tab as compared to Firefox which has it tab close button on the far right. 3)Options to save sessions. This session will open multiple page at once. 4)Integrated RSS Feed Reader. 5)Drag & Drop frequent visited page near to address bar. (I love this) and lastly it is much much faster than FireFox.
Obviously you haven't tried Firefox long enough or cared enough to try. 1. Identity: Ok, Firefox identifies as itself, unlike Opera (which ironically has just recently changed this to identify itself as Opera instead of IE after complaints of Opera having low %). 2. Close Tab: You can use Shift + Middle Button to close tab button, or Ctrl+W, or install MouseGesture for Firefox, or perhaps those tab extensions, or set a favourite shortcut key. 3. Tab session: Firefox TabbedBrowsing extension enables you to save sessions. 4. RSS: Just install one of those extensions. I don't use RSS reader so why should I have everything installed in Firefox? 5. Frequent page: I don't know. Find an extension, there will be one for this. 6. Speed: After tweaking my firefox about:config I can say it's fast enough for me. Don't get me wrong, I'm not a FF fanboy (although I see its merit) as I keep finding faults in FF while developing a web app for it. But you can't complain that FF doesn't have the things you said above. Ed
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Rocky Moore wrote: Only question is why would someone use it above FireFox since it does not have all the add-ins? I have all four browsers on my PC (IE, FireFox, Netscape, Opera), all for different uses, and Opera does its job well. Best regards, Paul. Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.
What job is Opera better at than the others? I am curious :) regards, Paul Watson South Africa Colib and WebTwoZero. K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!
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http://www.informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=171000326&tid=5979[^] Only question is why would someone use it above FireFox since it does not have all the add-ins? Rocky <>< My Blog[^]
I have use Opera for years, it does what I want staight from the box, Firefox requires extensions e.g. Mouse Gestures. I still prefer Opera to Firefox, but there again some of the Firefox extensions are superb. I may change sometime, but why? If it aint broke why fix it? I do like the featiure that when Windows crahes, Opera remembers the pages you were looking at when you next run it.
"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you do know and what you don't." - Anatole France
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Obviously you haven't tried Firefox long enough or cared enough to try. 1. Identity: Ok, Firefox identifies as itself, unlike Opera (which ironically has just recently changed this to identify itself as Opera instead of IE after complaints of Opera having low %). 2. Close Tab: You can use Shift + Middle Button to close tab button, or Ctrl+W, or install MouseGesture for Firefox, or perhaps those tab extensions, or set a favourite shortcut key. 3. Tab session: Firefox TabbedBrowsing extension enables you to save sessions. 4. RSS: Just install one of those extensions. I don't use RSS reader so why should I have everything installed in Firefox? 5. Frequent page: I don't know. Find an extension, there will be one for this. 6. Speed: After tweaking my firefox about:config I can say it's fast enough for me. Don't get me wrong, I'm not a FF fanboy (although I see its merit) as I keep finding faults in FF while developing a web app for it. But you can't complain that FF doesn't have the things you said above. Ed
Ed, Thanks for pointing additional stuff i don't know about FireFox. But i really don't have the time to look for interesting Firefox extensions. BTW, what's the tweak you have done on FireFox config to make it faster? Nevertheless,I still hope future versions of Opera have support for AI Roboform.
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http://www.informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=171000326&tid=5979[^] Only question is why would someone use it above FireFox since it does not have all the add-ins? Rocky <>< My Blog[^]
If only they made the Opera for Windows Mobile free, I haven't tried it yet but I really don't like Pocket IE found in Windows Mobile 2003. Or at least, if they made it a little cheaper, like $15 instead of $30... Rado
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http://www.informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=171000326&tid=5979[^] Only question is why would someone use it above FireFox since it does not have all the add-ins? Rocky <>< My Blog[^]
I gave it a try. I found that it many ways it was more solid than Firefox, though it still has some peculiar bugs and quirky behavior. I prefer how FF handles tabbed browsing. (When closing several windows, it's easier having a close button in the upper right side rather than on the tab.) The weirdest thing was the lack of a drop down previous history--this was remedied by customizing the toolbar, but it left me quite baffled as to what in the world they were thinking with the default buttons. As for speed, I found both IE and Firefox to be faster, but it might just be the web sites I visited. Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke
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http://www.informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=171000326&tid=5979[^] Only question is why would someone use it above FireFox since it does not have all the add-ins? Rocky <>< My Blog[^]
I have use Opera for years, it does what I want staight from the box, Firefox requires extensions e.g. Mouse Gestures. I still prefer Opera to Firefox, but there again some of the Firefox extensions are superb. I may change sometime, but why? If it aint broke why fix it? I do like the feature that when Windows crashes, Opera remembers the pages you were looking at when you next run it.
"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you do know and what you don't." - Anatole France
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What job is Opera better at than the others? I am curious :) regards, Paul Watson South Africa Colib and WebTwoZero. K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!
There are many goodies there...open ten pages in Opera, close the browser and reopen. It will automatically remember and reopen all the pages. Best regards, Paul. Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.
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There are many goodies there...open ten pages in Opera, close the browser and reopen. It will automatically remember and reopen all the pages. Best regards, Paul. Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.
Ah yeah that is handy and one of the first extensions I install for FireFox. regards, Paul Watson South Africa Colib and WebTwoZero. K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!
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Paul Selormey wrote: (IE, FireFox, Netscape, Opera), all for different uses Can you elaborate about the strengths and weaknesses of these browsers? I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopes
That will be difficult. I use FireFox for instance on JavaDoc, viewing online source codes etc. I hate IE so-called security check anytime I open HTML files on my PC. Opera will automatically remember and reopen all the pages when I restart it. If I am not sure which could cut it well, and just wish to visit a site and not add the url to my normal browsing site, I use Netscape for instance etc... ...For web developement, testing. Best regards, Paul. Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.
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http://www.informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=171000326&tid=5979[^] Only question is why would someone use it above FireFox since it does not have all the add-ins? Rocky <>< My Blog[^]
I've been using O for years on my personal machine since I ran out of patiance with NS4.7 instability. Mozilla was in early betas at the time, and left me rather underwelmed. There're several things I like best about it that I find lacking in FF (used at work). The first is that it can be set to save my open tabs, so that when I restart it all the pages I was viewing before open automatically. Much easier than trashing the bookmarks on startup, and it also allows me to save a page until tomorrow without having to clutter my bookmarks. The tradeoff here is that rendering all the pages at once slows startup, and on a slow connection can totally strangle bandwith for a minute or two if most've aged out of the cache. The second is that O lets me reorder my tabs with drag/drop. I like to know what order my regular pages are in, and this allows me to fix it without having to open/close everything to the right of the page I've accidentally closed. The third is that it's a MDI interface rather than a tabbed one. This means any popups I want to open are listed in the 'tab' control instead of cluttering my taskbar. It also lets me unmaximize a pair of pages to do a side by side iwthout opening a second instance on the taks bar. Forthly Opera resizes images when I zoom, and not just the text part of a page. Since i'm interested in zooming on images in a page more often than i have an issue with too small text this's a nice addition. As far as appearance goes, I've been using the opera classic skin for years because I think the new skin is ugly too. On the minus side, since Opera has a smaller visible marketshare than IE, FF, or Safari it's less likely to be natively supported by idiot webdesigners hardcoding for specific browsers. My other complaint is that almost every nonbugfix release of Opera includes at least one UI change, that I generally find myself having to trackdown and disable.
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Ed, Thanks for pointing additional stuff i don't know about FireFox. But i really don't have the time to look for interesting Firefox extensions. BTW, what's the tweak you have done on FireFox config to make it faster? Nevertheless,I still hope future versions of Opera have support for AI Roboform.
To tweak Firefox to go faster you can do a google search on Firefox Tweak. Here's one example of how to tweak your Firefox: http://www.webmasterworld.com/forum21/8007.htm[^] It is meant only for broadband users, and not dial-up users. And if you find you encountered too many errors during load of a page, reduce the number specified there. It won't take long to find interesting Firefox extensions. Usually the popular[^] ones listed are the most useful. Well, as an ex-user of Opera, I'm hoping all the best for it :) Ed
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That will be difficult. I use FireFox for instance on JavaDoc, viewing online source codes etc. I hate IE so-called security check anytime I open HTML files on my PC. Opera will automatically remember and reopen all the pages when I restart it. If I am not sure which could cut it well, and just wish to visit a site and not add the url to my normal browsing site, I use Netscape for instance etc... ...For web developement, testing. Best regards, Paul. Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.
I understand now; you are testing web development in different environments. What made me curious was you listed FF and NS. Do you have a preference between those two? Also, I notice a big time difference between FF and IE when rendering XML with a DTD to verify. Both are slow, but FF is many times slower. How does OPERA compare to IE at rendering XML? I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopes -- modified at 20:28 Wednesday 21st September, 2005
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I understand now; you are testing web development in different environments. What made me curious was you listed FF and NS. Do you have a preference between those two? Also, I notice a big time difference between FF and IE when rendering XML with a DTD to verify. Both are slow, but FF is many times slower. How does OPERA compare to IE at rendering XML? I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopes -- modified at 20:28 Wednesday 21st September, 2005
JimmyRopes wrote: What made me curious was you listed FF and NS. Do you have a preference between those two? NS lets you dynamically switch between IE and Mozilla engines. JimmyRopes wrote: Also, I notice a big time difference between FF and IE when rendering XML with a DTD to verify. Both are slow, but FF is many times slower. How does OPERA compare to IE at rendering XML? I am not currently doing any XML work with a browser. Best regards, Paul. Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.