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    Mike Ellison
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    Hi all. I've been playing a little with Konfabulator[^] and was wondering if other CP'ers used it or have built widgets for it? It looks cool and all, and there are certainly a lot of widgets built for it... but it looks like most would be more for fun. Am I misunderstanding the product? I like the weather widget, and the picture frame - and I found a ping widget which I find useful for monitoring whether or not a couple of servers are responsive. Have you found a particularly useful widget that helps in your work environment? I guess I'm just trying to see if this thing is more for fun and less for real work.

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      Hi all. I've been playing a little with Konfabulator[^] and was wondering if other CP'ers used it or have built widgets for it? It looks cool and all, and there are certainly a lot of widgets built for it... but it looks like most would be more for fun. Am I misunderstanding the product? I like the weather widget, and the picture frame - and I found a ping widget which I find useful for monitoring whether or not a couple of servers are responsive. Have you found a particularly useful widget that helps in your work environment? I guess I'm just trying to see if this thing is more for fun and less for real work.

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      code frog 0
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      What's work without a little play? I use the server uptime widgets, weather, digital clock, infocon, calendar, comics, earthfall and note widgets from time to time. It's a good product but it's mostly a distraction that I don't mind having. I think there could be more useful things done with it but you'd have to give me a big loan on time... It's in short supply for me. The bad thing about it is that it can take a while to sort through the fodder to find the nuggets.

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        Hi all. I've been playing a little with Konfabulator[^] and was wondering if other CP'ers used it or have built widgets for it? It looks cool and all, and there are certainly a lot of widgets built for it... but it looks like most would be more for fun. Am I misunderstanding the product? I like the weather widget, and the picture frame - and I found a ping widget which I find useful for monitoring whether or not a couple of servers are responsive. Have you found a particularly useful widget that helps in your work environment? I guess I'm just trying to see if this thing is more for fun and less for real work.

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        I installed it and was immediately put off by the fact that it spawns a separate process for each widget. Processes are expensive in the Win32 world, and I didn't need Konfabulator sitting there chewing up valuable system resources for a few widgets that don't do much for me anyway. Seriously, aside from the Gmail widget and the weather widget, I don't see many useful ones in the Konfabulator gallery. Besides, I use the Gmail Notifier extension for Firefox...and I'm more likely to respond to a little toaster window that pops up when I start up Firefox than a tiny widget that just displays a number anyway. What I want to know is why everybody finds those system resource monitor widgets so cool. Maybe it's just me, but I really don't need to see what my memory and processor usage is at all times. :~ If someone developed a CruiseControl widget, that would be cool. I think you're going to find that the new Windows Sidebar in Longhorn is going to be more useful, and the fact that the Gadgets developed for it can be pulled off and float around the desktop is going to make something like Konfabulator obsolete.


        Picture a huge catholic cathedral. In it there's many people, including a gregorian monk choir. You know, those who sing beautifully. Then they start singing, in latin, as they always do: "Ad hominem..." -Jörgen Sigvardsson

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          Hi all. I've been playing a little with Konfabulator[^] and was wondering if other CP'ers used it or have built widgets for it? It looks cool and all, and there are certainly a lot of widgets built for it... but it looks like most would be more for fun. Am I misunderstanding the product? I like the weather widget, and the picture frame - and I found a ping widget which I find useful for monitoring whether or not a couple of servers are responsive. Have you found a particularly useful widget that helps in your work environment? I guess I'm just trying to see if this thing is more for fun and less for real work.

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          Bassam Abdul Baki
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          I have that and the Google Desktop installed. Both have their pros and cons. Konfabulator spawns a copy of itself for each open widget (I think). It's a bit of a memory hog. However, they have a cool game called Pipes which I like to play. :) "If only one person knows the truth, it is still the truth." - Mahatma Gandhi Web - Blog - RSS - Math

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            I installed it and was immediately put off by the fact that it spawns a separate process for each widget. Processes are expensive in the Win32 world, and I didn't need Konfabulator sitting there chewing up valuable system resources for a few widgets that don't do much for me anyway. Seriously, aside from the Gmail widget and the weather widget, I don't see many useful ones in the Konfabulator gallery. Besides, I use the Gmail Notifier extension for Firefox...and I'm more likely to respond to a little toaster window that pops up when I start up Firefox than a tiny widget that just displays a number anyway. What I want to know is why everybody finds those system resource monitor widgets so cool. Maybe it's just me, but I really don't need to see what my memory and processor usage is at all times. :~ If someone developed a CruiseControl widget, that would be cool. I think you're going to find that the new Windows Sidebar in Longhorn is going to be more useful, and the fact that the Gadgets developed for it can be pulled off and float around the desktop is going to make something like Konfabulator obsolete.


            Picture a huge catholic cathedral. In it there's many people, including a gregorian monk choir. You know, those who sing beautifully. Then they start singing, in latin, as they always do: "Ad hominem..." -Jörgen Sigvardsson

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            Seriously now, how is the weather widget helpful? What help to your daily life does having the weather displayed 24/7 on your desktop bring? If you are planning a sailing weekend then you check the weather report once a few days before and are done with it. I just really don't see why every widget app comes with a weather widget. It looks pretty but... regards, Paul Watson South Africa Colib and WebTwoZero. K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!

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              Seriously now, how is the weather widget helpful? What help to your daily life does having the weather displayed 24/7 on your desktop bring? If you are planning a sailing weekend then you check the weather report once a few days before and are done with it. I just really don't see why every widget app comes with a weather widget. It looks pretty but... regards, Paul Watson South Africa Colib and WebTwoZero. K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!

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              Vikram A Punathambekar
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              My thoughts exactly. Maybe they are holed up inside and can't see what the weather is like. :suss: In which case, why would they want to know? :~ Cheers, Vikram.


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                Seriously now, how is the weather widget helpful? What help to your daily life does having the weather displayed 24/7 on your desktop bring? If you are planning a sailing weekend then you check the weather report once a few days before and are done with it. I just really don't see why every widget app comes with a weather widget. It looks pretty but... regards, Paul Watson South Africa Colib and WebTwoZero. K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!

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                Hey! I said I didn't use the freakin' program! Don't crucify me over the weather widget. ;P And I don't know, maybe they don't get the weather channel and don't want to make daily trips to weather.com Personally, I don't get it, but my entire family in the South (y'know, Alabama, Arkansas, etc) pays attention to the weather like mad. Everybody in the South does...go figure. Whenever I go visit and use anybody's computer, there's always some stupid weather tray app or something similar. I live in San Diego, CA...where it's always sunny. So I clearly don't need the weather widget. :-D


                Picture a huge catholic cathedral. In it there's many people, including a gregorian monk choir. You know, those who sing beautifully. Then they start singing, in latin, as they always do: "Ad hominem..." -Jörgen Sigvardsson

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                  Hi all. I've been playing a little with Konfabulator[^] and was wondering if other CP'ers used it or have built widgets for it? It looks cool and all, and there are certainly a lot of widgets built for it... but it looks like most would be more for fun. Am I misunderstanding the product? I like the weather widget, and the picture frame - and I found a ping widget which I find useful for monitoring whether or not a couple of servers are responsive. Have you found a particularly useful widget that helps in your work environment? I guess I'm just trying to see if this thing is more for fun and less for real work.

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                  Mike Ellison wrote: Have you found a particularly useful widget that helps in your work environment? I think we need an Ambulance widget in case some hardcore 24/7 programmers collaspe on their keyboard, causing serveral keys pressed down for a very long time which in turn would trigger the widget to call an ambulance. :cool: Weiye Chen Life is hard, yet we are made of flesh...

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                    Hey! I said I didn't use the freakin' program! Don't crucify me over the weather widget. ;P And I don't know, maybe they don't get the weather channel and don't want to make daily trips to weather.com Personally, I don't get it, but my entire family in the South (y'know, Alabama, Arkansas, etc) pays attention to the weather like mad. Everybody in the South does...go figure. Whenever I go visit and use anybody's computer, there's always some stupid weather tray app or something similar. I live in San Diego, CA...where it's always sunny. So I clearly don't need the weather widget. :-D


                    Picture a huge catholic cathedral. In it there's many people, including a gregorian monk choir. You know, those who sing beautifully. Then they start singing, in latin, as they always do: "Ad hominem..." -Jörgen Sigvardsson

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                    Ah excuses, excuses, excuses. We all know of your weather fetish. And I hope to god that your Southern friends don't rely on "Hey, it is sunny!" weather widgets to warn of tornados and hurricanes. I did once see a Hurricane Warning widget though. regards, Paul Watson South Africa Colib and WebTwoZero. K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!

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                      Seriously now, how is the weather widget helpful? What help to your daily life does having the weather displayed 24/7 on your desktop bring? If you are planning a sailing weekend then you check the weather report once a few days before and are done with it. I just really don't see why every widget app comes with a weather widget. It looks pretty but... regards, Paul Watson South Africa Colib and WebTwoZero. K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!

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                      The Dashboard weather widget is useful to me. It gives a 5-day forcast, plus I can have both the Liverpool and London weather open. So I can gloat to my parents about how good the London microclimate can be :-)


                      Jonathan Newman blog.nonny.com [^]

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                        Hi all. I've been playing a little with Konfabulator[^] and was wondering if other CP'ers used it or have built widgets for it? It looks cool and all, and there are certainly a lot of widgets built for it... but it looks like most would be more for fun. Am I misunderstanding the product? I like the weather widget, and the picture frame - and I found a ping widget which I find useful for monitoring whether or not a couple of servers are responsive. Have you found a particularly useful widget that helps in your work environment? I guess I'm just trying to see if this thing is more for fun and less for real work.

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                        Konfab and co. is a good technology waiting for a useful application of it. Weather, news, CPU temp and your blood-pressure are not good applicatons of the technology. regards, Paul Watson South Africa Colib and WebTwoZero. K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!

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                          The Dashboard weather widget is useful to me. It gives a 5-day forcast, plus I can have both the Liverpool and London weather open. So I can gloat to my parents about how good the London microclimate can be :-)


                          Jonathan Newman blog.nonny.com [^]

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                          Why not visit the beeb's 5 day weather forecast once a day instead? My gripe is about this strange need to have the weather displayed on your desktop 24/7. What on earth for? regards, Paul Watson South Africa Colib and WebTwoZero. K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!

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                            Konfab and co. is a good technology waiting for a useful application of it. Weather, news, CPU temp and your blood-pressure are not good applicatons of the technology. regards, Paul Watson South Africa Colib and WebTwoZero. K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!

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                            I'm rather looking forward to the Microsoft one. I can't wait to build some 'Gadgets' to replace some of my call-centre 'wallboard' apps. It'll be great to finally have these available from the desktop without having to launch other applications. Michael CP Blog [^] Development Blog [^]

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                              Hi all. I've been playing a little with Konfabulator[^] and was wondering if other CP'ers used it or have built widgets for it? It looks cool and all, and there are certainly a lot of widgets built for it... but it looks like most would be more for fun. Am I misunderstanding the product? I like the weather widget, and the picture frame - and I found a ping widget which I find useful for monitoring whether or not a couple of servers are responsive. Have you found a particularly useful widget that helps in your work environment? I guess I'm just trying to see if this thing is more for fun and less for real work.

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                              I have used it for some time. Of course, I have the weather module (enjoy at a glance to see what the real world is like, also can tell if it is night or day :) ). My favorite is the "stickies" widget. At this moment I have five stickes (three on one monitor and two on the other) that are my reminders. I have them set to different colors for category and priority. VERY handy! Worth the RAM and CPU! Rocky <>< My Blog[^]

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                                Why not visit the beeb's 5 day weather forecast once a day instead? My gripe is about this strange need to have the weather displayed on your desktop 24/7. What on earth for? regards, Paul Watson South Africa Colib and WebTwoZero. K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!

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                                My guess is its laziness - its much quicker/easier to turn on the computer and the information is there, than having to load up a browser and go get it.


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                                  I installed it and was immediately put off by the fact that it spawns a separate process for each widget. Processes are expensive in the Win32 world, and I didn't need Konfabulator sitting there chewing up valuable system resources for a few widgets that don't do much for me anyway. Seriously, aside from the Gmail widget and the weather widget, I don't see many useful ones in the Konfabulator gallery. Besides, I use the Gmail Notifier extension for Firefox...and I'm more likely to respond to a little toaster window that pops up when I start up Firefox than a tiny widget that just displays a number anyway. What I want to know is why everybody finds those system resource monitor widgets so cool. Maybe it's just me, but I really don't need to see what my memory and processor usage is at all times. :~ If someone developed a CruiseControl widget, that would be cool. I think you're going to find that the new Windows Sidebar in Longhorn is going to be more useful, and the fact that the Gadgets developed for it can be pulled off and float around the desktop is going to make something like Konfabulator obsolete.


                                  Picture a huge catholic cathedral. In it there's many people, including a gregorian monk choir. You know, those who sing beautifully. Then they start singing, in latin, as they always do: "Ad hominem..." -Jörgen Sigvardsson

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                                  i dont do this via Konfabulator, but the idea is the same. having a CPU usage graph on the second monitor allows me to: a) check if there is some reason why visual studio has stopped responding to my typing. everytime the antivirus updates over the network it hammers my machine into the ground for about 1 minute. while this is happening there is no real point in trying to do anything, so i just sit back, try to relax, and wait for the CPU meter to tell me when i can start trying to type again. b) i can leave visual studio in the background while doing some general reading in firefox, and when the CPU usage returns to sane levels i know that the compilation has stopped, and it is time to go and see if it worked. zen is the art of being at one with the two'ness

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                                    Seriously now, how is the weather widget helpful? What help to your daily life does having the weather displayed 24/7 on your desktop bring? If you are planning a sailing weekend then you check the weather report once a few days before and are done with it. I just really don't see why every widget app comes with a weather widget. It looks pretty but... regards, Paul Watson South Africa Colib and WebTwoZero. K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!

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                                    Paul Watson wrote: Seriously now, how is the weather widget helpful? What help to your daily life does having the weather displayed 24/7 on your desktop bring? Actually, there are a number of people who use them at work with a viable reason. I was reading a quote about hurricanes, they are getting better at predicting their path, but not the severity. This is what we see in the southwest with thunderstorms, partially. I've got an hour to drive home, others have down to 30 minutes. Of course they have to drive over a mountain pass for half of that 30 minutes. Severity can change suddenly and issue weather warnings. There are a number of people who use them for that. Of course they could just as easily ONLY monitor the weather warnings and not have a weather app.... but it wouldn't look as cool. ;) We're actually not supposed to have them at all. We're supposed to wait patiently until a weather warning sparks the General to evac all the federal workers, and all the military batten down the hatches... and then wait for his secretary to remind him he forgot about the contractors. Usually waiting long enough for the state to close the mountain-pass because of severe weather and all the contractors have to drive around the mountain for 90 minutes. :) but a few people don't like that idea, so keep a weather app at their desk to monitor changes in weather and then get our secretaries to call his secretaries to try to get us released at the same time as everyone else. :-D _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                                      My thoughts exactly. Maybe they are holed up inside and can't see what the weather is like. :suss: In which case, why would they want to know? :~ Cheers, Vikram.


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                                      Vikram A Punathambekar wrote: My thoughts exactly. Maybe they are holed up inside and can't see what the weather is like. Steel V2 hangers from the late 1940's, excellent view of the next V2 hanger from my window. :laugh: _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                                        Vikram A Punathambekar wrote: My thoughts exactly. Maybe they are holed up inside and can't see what the weather is like. Steel V2 hangers from the late 1940's, excellent view of the next V2 hanger from my window. :laugh: _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                                        Then read the second part of my original post. ;P Cheers, Vikram.


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                                          My thoughts exactly. Maybe they are holed up inside and can't see what the weather is like. :suss: In which case, why would they want to know? :~ Cheers, Vikram.


                                          http://www.geocities.com/vpunathambekar

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                                          Vikram A Punathambekar wrote: In which case, why would they want to know? okay... I'll bite.... As comfortable as a steel V2 hanger converted into cattle err.. contractor use, it's lousy living quarters. I'd rather not be stuck at work after they closed the roads. As rare as that is, it does happen. The other is flash-flooding which cannot be predicted until the thunder cell rises, which means hours max, not days warning. The weather for the day says something like "Localized Severe thunderstorms with possibility of localized flooding" and then within an hour of the thunderstorm you get a weather warning telling everyone to stay off the roads, at least absolutely avoid bridges. Now about 10 years ago, I did work in a place that was completely unaffected by weather. Nice partially underground, about 13 feet of concrete between you and the rest of the world. Absolutely no idea what the weather is like outside until you throw open the door. But I still would rather not be trapped there overnight because of flashfloods. _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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