IS LAUREN A BIGOT?

vincent reynolds 0

You're saying that calling someone a name is not name calling? Interesting...

feline_dracoform

since i hang out in the lounge for light relief, to get away from the stresses of the day, and to chat with the few people here i have started to get to know i tend to ignore the "heavy" threads. as a result i don't have any direct dealings with Lauren, but she does seem capable of holding a reasoned opinion and partaking in an intelligent debate. i am not sure how often that happens, but i have seen it happen. in contrast your post lowers you in my eyes, thus raising the relative level of Lauren, and everyone else in the lounge i pay attention to. it just goes to show, the world can be a strange and mysterious place. zen is the art of being at one with the two'ness

Shog9 0

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TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

The fact that you think less of me means that I'm doing the correct thing. As far as lauren being able to hold a reasoned opinion just means you haven't paid attention or you're biased. When the defects in her reasonings and opionions are pointed-out she goes on the offensive and makes personal adhominem attacks.

TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

is bigot a name?

TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

She did more than criticize an institution, she smeared everyone who believes in god when she made her post. Not only in the title of her post ("god goes to the dogs") but also in the article linked to. It was an obvious smear, attack and slime on religious people.

TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

I do find her "God goes to the dogs" post offensive. She did far more than merely post a link. She posted a link to an obvious smear attack on religious people. Read here[^] for someone elses analysis of her "posting." I'm glad for your belief in God, now start acting like it.

Jim Crafton

ahz wrote: she goes on the offensive and makes personal adhominem attacks. Uhhh, righht... You started a thread, in one of the most commonly read forums on a site with over 2 million registered eyeballs, and the thread topic was basically nothing *but* a personal attack? Get a clue. ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF!

Jim Crafton

Oh for craps sake grow up. My God, what a little whiner. If your faith in God is so tenous that a post entitled "god goes to the dogs" get's your panties in a twist, it's time to seriously pull yourself together. I beleive in God. I'm Roman Catholic. While I thought the article in question was a bit silly, that's as far as it went. You're simply trolling, and doing a damn good job of it, given all the responses it's generated. ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF!

El Corazon

or was the title a pun on the very old agnostic dyslexic joke? you'd have to ask her. _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

Jim Crafton

Amen brother! 5 points for you! ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF!

khorjak

Is idiot a name? Not that I am, but would I be name calling if I were to call you that? Or would it be considered "factual"? ;P

Christian Graus

I am a Christian, a very devout one. As far as I can see, telling Lauren she's not allowed to have an opinion that is different to mine would make me a bigot. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++

Christian Graus

ahz wrote: I'm glad for your belief in God, now start acting like it. A Christian should show through action why walking with God is a positive thing. You seem to be thinking of the Pharisees example, rather than that of Jesus. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++

TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

That would depend on whether or not I really am an idiot. If I'm not an idiot, than it would be name calling. If I am an idiot, that would be factual. Lauren says and does things that are normally attributed to someone who is a bigot. Therefore that makes her a bigot. If she doesn't like the truth, then she has power to change the truth. She can stop being a bigot. It's her choice.

Douglas Troy

ahz wrote: I'm glad for your belief in God, now start acting like it. I am "acting like" it ... Let he who is without sin, cast the first stone. I had no idea you were so pure and holy; I pale in your shadow and hope that one day, maybe I'll be as great as you ... X| ... but let me not stand in your way ... throw your stones.

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vincent reynolds 0

Again, I disagree. You seem to take criticism of your religion very personally. This is understandable, of course -- one's religious beliefs are a deeply personal thing -- but you'll go through life an angry, defensive person if you view every disagreement as an attack. If you can distance yourself from it just a bit -- from the discussion, not from your faith, of course -- and perhaps think of it as concerning belief systems rather than people, you might not be as tempted to lash out, and might be able to either go with it or just let it go. I am not religious, but subscribe to Taoist philosophy, and have had some wonderful discussions with people of all faiths and philosophies. The debates are sometimes heated, mostly reasoned, and usually benefit from having either sake or good Belgian ale involved in the process. Ad hominem attacks merely decrease the value of one's other contributions to the discussion and usually subject the attacker to hoots of derision and buying the next round. I don't think anybody's fundamental belief system has ever been restructured, but everyone seems to come away a little bit enlightened -- philosophically, spiritually, intellectually, or inebriatedly.

Jorgen Sigvardsson

...makes lovely poems. -- Look straight into the light!

Jorgen Sigvardsson

I think you nailed it. :) -- Look straight into the light!

TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

I never said she can't have an opinion different than mine. Not that she needs my permission, but she can have and hold whatever opinions she wants to. But, if she, or anyone else for that matter, chooses to espouse those opinions, then it is incumbent upon that opinion holder/espouser to be able defend such opinions with thoughful, reasoned arguments. When opinions are made such that an entire class of people are denigrated, then that is not just an opinion, it becomes a stereotype. If someone were to say "green people are lazy" that certainly is an opionion, but it also makes that person a bigot when they hold to an opinion that is so easily disproved. So it is with lauren, she holds that religion causes bad stuff and posts a link of dubious quality to support such a dubious "opinion." When it is pointed out that the article she posted linked to is of poor quality she goes on the offensive and rather than apologize she attacks the individual.