China's second manned spaceship has been in the space!!!
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After about 2 years preparation our second manned spaceship(Shenzhou 6) with two-man crew has been launched successfully about 15 minutes ago!:-D:rose:
Let's roll! -- modified at 21:17 Tuesday 11th October, 2005
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After about 2 years preparation our second manned spaceship(Shenzhou 6) with two-man crew has been launched successfully about 15 minutes ago!:-D:rose:
Let's roll! -- modified at 21:17 Tuesday 11th October, 2005
Bravo! It's good to know that when I finally get to the Moon there will be someone there ahead of me that can make a decent Egg Foo Young (my favorite Chinese dish)! :-D I suspect that, if China decides to get into space in a big way, the US will fall quickly behind... I don't see any evidence that we still have any of the adventuresome spirit that led us to be first to arrive.:( "...a photo album is like Life, but flat and stuck to pages." - Shog9
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Bravo! It's good to know that when I finally get to the Moon there will be someone there ahead of me that can make a decent Egg Foo Young (my favorite Chinese dish)! :-D I suspect that, if China decides to get into space in a big way, the US will fall quickly behind... I don't see any evidence that we still have any of the adventuresome spirit that led us to be first to arrive.:( "...a photo album is like Life, but flat and stuck to pages." - Shog9
Roger Wright wrote: I don't see any evidence that we still have any of the adventuresome spirit that led us to be first to arrive. I agree here. The last time we went it only took us a few years. This time they are planning for around 20 years and are acting like we never went in the first place. We should have never stopped going.
George Carlin wrote: "Don't sweat the petty things, and don't pet the sweaty things." Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: If the physicists find a universal theory describing the laws of universe, I'm sure the asshole constant will be an integral part of that theory.
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After about 2 years preparation our second manned spaceship(Shenzhou 6) with two-man crew has been launched successfully about 15 minutes ago!:-D:rose:
Let's roll! -- modified at 21:17 Tuesday 11th October, 2005
Pretty damned amazing. Just 2 years. Well done guys, now get them home safe. regards, Paul Watson South Africa Colib and ilikecameras. K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!
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After about 2 years preparation our second manned spaceship(Shenzhou 6) with two-man crew has been launched successfully about 15 minutes ago!:-D:rose:
Let's roll! -- modified at 21:17 Tuesday 11th October, 2005
so what?
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Roger Wright wrote: I don't see any evidence that we still have any of the adventuresome spirit that led us to be first to arrive. I agree here. The last time we went it only took us a few years. This time they are planning for around 20 years and are acting like we never went in the first place. We should have never stopped going.
George Carlin wrote: "Don't sweat the petty things, and don't pet the sweaty things." Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: If the physicists find a universal theory describing the laws of universe, I'm sure the asshole constant will be an integral part of that theory.
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Instead of a big step forward it is going to be Apollo 2 which makes me ask why. The tigress is here :-D
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Roger Wright wrote: I don't see any evidence that we still have any of the adventuresome spirit that led us to be first to arrive. I agree here. The last time we went it only took us a few years. This time they are planning for around 20 years and are acting like we never went in the first place. We should have never stopped going.
George Carlin wrote: "Don't sweat the petty things, and don't pet the sweaty things." Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: If the physicists find a universal theory describing the laws of universe, I'm sure the asshole constant will be an integral part of that theory.
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Ray Cassick wrote: and are acting like we never went in the first place. Yeah, I find that so wierd. Regardz Colin J Davies The most LinkedIn CPian (that I know of anyhow) :-)
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Roger Wright wrote: I don't see any evidence that we still have any of the adventuresome spirit that led us to be first to arrive. I agree here. The last time we went it only took us a few years. This time they are planning for around 20 years and are acting like we never went in the first place. We should have never stopped going.
George Carlin wrote: "Don't sweat the petty things, and don't pet the sweaty things." Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: If the physicists find a universal theory describing the laws of universe, I'm sure the asshole constant will be an integral part of that theory.
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Ray Cassick wrote: We should have never stopped going. We stopped going because the American public lost complete interest in the Apollo missions. The last few missions didn't even get any TV time, or hardly any. And can someone please explain to me the point of going to the moon? There are a lot of interesting problems for adventuresome spirits to solve here on earth. Space travel has, and continues to be, more of an escapist's fantasy. Let's solve some of the problems we have here, rather than export them into space. Marc My website Traceract Understanding Simple Data Binding Diary Of A CEO - Preface
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Ray Cassick wrote: We should have never stopped going. We stopped going because the American public lost complete interest in the Apollo missions. The last few missions didn't even get any TV time, or hardly any. And can someone please explain to me the point of going to the moon? There are a lot of interesting problems for adventuresome spirits to solve here on earth. Space travel has, and continues to be, more of an escapist's fantasy. Let's solve some of the problems we have here, rather than export them into space. Marc My website Traceract Understanding Simple Data Binding Diary Of A CEO - Preface
Marc Clifton wrote: And can someone please explain to me the point of going to the moon? Because we can. Honestly, this is a stepping stone that we need to take if we are to move beyond this planet. Eventually I see the moon as a launch platform. It takes much less fuel to break free of the moon than it does the earth. Gives us the ability to build bigger ships and need less fuel to get them actually into space. It will also be a proving ground for things like habitats and other hardware we will need to go to mars and beyond. I see this as a critical next step in our evolution. The problem is that it should have happened 20 years ago. Anyone here remember 'Space 1999'? If we had kept going we would have been there on time. Marc Clifton wrote: We stopped going because the American public lost complete interest in the Apollo missions. Then the govt should have made public education a priority. I know this is true, I saw it happen, but it should not have been allowed to happen. People should have been made to understand how important this was. I know that other things took priority (wars and such) but maybe, just maybe, if we had kept our eyes on the ball these other things would have have happened in the first place. The entire world (not just the US citizens) needs to focus on the importance of space travel. The importance of getting off this rock and expanding our selves outwards. Yes, we have things here on earth that need to be taken care of. Yes, we have things that we can do better here. But, part of our evolutionary path (IMHO) is collectively growing our minds to the point where we are not held back by the edge of this planet.
George Carlin wrote: "Don't sweat the petty things, and don't pet the sweaty things." Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: If the physicists find a universal theory describing the laws of universe, I'm sure the asshole constant will be an integral part of that theory.
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Ray Cassick wrote: We should have never stopped going. We stopped going because the American public lost complete interest in the Apollo missions. The last few missions didn't even get any TV time, or hardly any. And can someone please explain to me the point of going to the moon? There are a lot of interesting problems for adventuresome spirits to solve here on earth. Space travel has, and continues to be, more of an escapist's fantasy. Let's solve some of the problems we have here, rather than export them into space. Marc My website Traceract Understanding Simple Data Binding Diary Of A CEO - Preface
Marc Clifton wrote: There are a lot of interesting problems for adventuresome spirits to solve here on earth. Space travel has, and continues to be, more of an escapist's fantasy. Let's solve some of the problems we have here, rather than export them into space. Actually we tend to do both. Apollo brought the world microwave ovens, toothpaste, velcro, plastics and amazing amount of other flow-through technologies. We go to space because it is actually easier than some of the places on the earth. It would cost more to send someone EVA at the bottom of the deepest ocean because it is hot/cold/compressed/etc vacuum of space is easier even though gravity is a tough thing to fight. It is interesting having just gone to the x-prize preview for next year. The Armadillo works as good as the Delta Clipper (DC-X), though suffers from the same problems. The primary difference is that it costs a fraction of the delta clipper so should be easier to fix. There are manufacturing processes that are easier in low-g, some even easier in free-fall. The NASA missions did little more than bring back rocks, those rocks have some interesting minerals, but would require processing. The primary reason no manufacturing/processing has yet to be considered on the moon is the lack of water. Water provides both air and fuel. Several recent satelite and mini-probe missions have been intended for just that reason, to find water in ice in craters. So far no luck. If they should find water, companies will be buying land on the moon faster than you can say jumpin-jack-flash. _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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Marc Clifton wrote: And can someone please explain to me the point of going to the moon? Because we can. Honestly, this is a stepping stone that we need to take if we are to move beyond this planet. Eventually I see the moon as a launch platform. It takes much less fuel to break free of the moon than it does the earth. Gives us the ability to build bigger ships and need less fuel to get them actually into space. It will also be a proving ground for things like habitats and other hardware we will need to go to mars and beyond. I see this as a critical next step in our evolution. The problem is that it should have happened 20 years ago. Anyone here remember 'Space 1999'? If we had kept going we would have been there on time. Marc Clifton wrote: We stopped going because the American public lost complete interest in the Apollo missions. Then the govt should have made public education a priority. I know this is true, I saw it happen, but it should not have been allowed to happen. People should have been made to understand how important this was. I know that other things took priority (wars and such) but maybe, just maybe, if we had kept our eyes on the ball these other things would have have happened in the first place. The entire world (not just the US citizens) needs to focus on the importance of space travel. The importance of getting off this rock and expanding our selves outwards. Yes, we have things here on earth that need to be taken care of. Yes, we have things that we can do better here. But, part of our evolutionary path (IMHO) is collectively growing our minds to the point where we are not held back by the edge of this planet.
George Carlin wrote: "Don't sweat the petty things, and don't pet the sweaty things." Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: If the physicists find a universal theory describing the laws of universe, I'm sure the asshole constant will be an integral part of that theory.
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Ray Cassick wrote: Honestly, this is a stepping stone that we need to take if we are to move beyond this planet. I personally feel that a lot of social advancement has to be made first, before we can lead the way with the necessary technology. Ray Cassick wrote: People should have been made to understand how important this was. Which is my point, I think. Socially, we tend to think very locally, whereas the space program is something that appeals to something in us that likes to think globally. But global thinking is not something we are educated to do, even nowadays. Ray Cassick wrote: part of our evolutionary path (IMHO) is collectively growing our minds to the point where we are not held back by the edge of this planet. I agree, though I don't see that happening until we grow our minds to the point where we consider the entire planet in our actions. Marc My website Traceract Understanding Simple Data Binding Diary Of A CEO - Preface
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Marc Clifton wrote: There are a lot of interesting problems for adventuresome spirits to solve here on earth. Space travel has, and continues to be, more of an escapist's fantasy. Let's solve some of the problems we have here, rather than export them into space. Actually we tend to do both. Apollo brought the world microwave ovens, toothpaste, velcro, plastics and amazing amount of other flow-through technologies. We go to space because it is actually easier than some of the places on the earth. It would cost more to send someone EVA at the bottom of the deepest ocean because it is hot/cold/compressed/etc vacuum of space is easier even though gravity is a tough thing to fight. It is interesting having just gone to the x-prize preview for next year. The Armadillo works as good as the Delta Clipper (DC-X), though suffers from the same problems. The primary difference is that it costs a fraction of the delta clipper so should be easier to fix. There are manufacturing processes that are easier in low-g, some even easier in free-fall. The NASA missions did little more than bring back rocks, those rocks have some interesting minerals, but would require processing. The primary reason no manufacturing/processing has yet to be considered on the moon is the lack of water. Water provides both air and fuel. Several recent satelite and mini-probe missions have been intended for just that reason, to find water in ice in craters. So far no luck. If they should find water, companies will be buying land on the moon faster than you can say jumpin-jack-flash. _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
Jeffry J. Brickley wrote: It would cost more to send someone EVA at the bottom of the deepest ocean because it is hot/cold/compressed/etc vacuum of space is easier even though gravity is a tough thing to fight. Both, I feel, are totally pointless without a lot of improvement in our social condition. Social problems can be fixed without technology. In fact, the application of technology often creates further social problems. If, for example, one makes the argument that the microwave oven, plastics, etc., helps to preserve and cook food faster so it can feed more people, I would reply that you're not fixing the underlying social problem of overcrowding and responsible parenting/planning. And, IMO, technology is one of those great psychological devices that people hide behind who don't like to face social challenges. Science can prove that world is round, but it does nothing to remove the bigotry and attitudes of those people who insist that it's flat. That's where the real problem lies, IMO. Marc My website Traceract Understanding Simple Data Binding Diary Of A CEO - Preface
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Jeffry J. Brickley wrote: It would cost more to send someone EVA at the bottom of the deepest ocean because it is hot/cold/compressed/etc vacuum of space is easier even though gravity is a tough thing to fight. Both, I feel, are totally pointless without a lot of improvement in our social condition. Social problems can be fixed without technology. In fact, the application of technology often creates further social problems. If, for example, one makes the argument that the microwave oven, plastics, etc., helps to preserve and cook food faster so it can feed more people, I would reply that you're not fixing the underlying social problem of overcrowding and responsible parenting/planning. And, IMO, technology is one of those great psychological devices that people hide behind who don't like to face social challenges. Science can prove that world is round, but it does nothing to remove the bigotry and attitudes of those people who insist that it's flat. That's where the real problem lies, IMO. Marc My website Traceract Understanding Simple Data Binding Diary Of A CEO - Preface
Marc Clifton wrote: Both, I feel, are totally pointless without a lot of improvement in our social condition. Social problems can be fixed without technology. In fact, the application of technology often creates further social problems. True, but no one wants to fix social problems, if anything they want to feed social problems rather than solve them. Plus there is at least 10 times the NASA budget in corporate welfare and we won't even bring up military. _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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Pretty damned amazing. Just 2 years. Well done guys, now get them home safe. regards, Paul Watson South Africa Colib and ilikecameras. K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!
You after two years of pouring over documents provided by Russia and some stolen from the US... ------- sig starts "I've heard some drivers saying, 'We're going too fast here...'. If you're not here to race, go the hell home - don't come here and grumble about going too fast. Why don't you tie a kerosene rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001
