patents gone mad...
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So you think company/university "A" should spend all of the money that they spend to research and map genes and get no compensation when company "B" comes along and uses that research to create drugs that earn millions/billions of $$ for company "B". That would leave all research industries with no income while the manufacturing industries sit and wait for something to be developed and then steal the idea and get rich.
i'm not sure that's what lauren is saying. but i don't agree with patenting the actual gene sequence. I do agree they can patent the process that creates the drug from that gene sequence as well as the drug itself. The genes were already preexisting, what did company/university "A" or company "B" do to invent or create them? Nothing.
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i'm not sure that's what lauren is saying. but i don't agree with patenting the actual gene sequence. I do agree they can patent the process that creates the drug from that gene sequence as well as the drug itself. The genes were already preexisting, what did company/university "A" or company "B" do to invent or create them? Nothing.
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Without actually reading the patents, I am confident that they do not grant ownership of the genes. But if Company "B" develops a cure for cancer based on manufacturing those genes then shouldn't Company "A" be entitled to some of the profits.
So if manure helps grow plants, shouldn't I be able to patent a cow's ass? Jeremy Falcon
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http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/10/1013_051013_gene_patent.html[^] u have to be absolutely f******** kidding me!! :wtf:
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{biz stuff} {about me}I just hope there's something we're not aware of here, because this would just be too far to actually patent a DNA sequence. And, if this is true, like I've always said, this is only the beginning in the steps we are taking as a whole in devaluing human life. The sad truth is, some people have always gotten rich in the past at the price of the misfortune of many. It seems greed and stupidity knows no boundaries. Jeremy Falcon
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So if manure helps grow plants, shouldn't I be able to patent a cow's ass? Jeremy Falcon
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That's old news. Where have you been?
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So if manure helps grow plants, shouldn't I be able to patent a cow's ass? Jeremy Falcon
Funny, but bad analogy. It's more like if you discover a way to make a better fertilizer from manure you can patent your fertilizer or the process for making it, ... but you can't patent the manure, or the cow's ass it came from. Steve T
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Funny, but bad analogy. It's more like if you discover a way to make a better fertilizer from manure you can patent your fertilizer or the process for making it, ... but you can't patent the manure, or the cow's ass it came from. Steve T
Not a bad analogy; you just don't understand it. Considering your post, I'll have to explain it I'm sure, but I'll wait until tomorrow just because I can. :) Jeremy Falcon
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Funny, but bad analogy. It's more like if you discover a way to make a better fertilizer from manure you can patent your fertilizer or the process for making it, ... but you can't patent the manure, or the cow's ass it came from. Steve T
FlyingTinman wrote:
but you can't patent the manure, or the cow's ass it came from.
Actually, if he breeds the cattle for manure production and succeeds, he can patent the breed of cattle and the fertilizer. And if the process made physical changes to the cows ass, then yes, he can patent that too. _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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FlyingTinman wrote:
but you can't patent the manure, or the cow's ass it came from.
Actually, if he breeds the cattle for manure production and succeeds, he can patent the breed of cattle and the fertilizer. And if the process made physical changes to the cows ass, then yes, he can patent that too. _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
Jeffry J. Brickley wrote:
Actually, if he breeds the cattle for manure production and succeeds, he can patent the breed of cattle and the fertilizer. And if the process made physical changes to the cows ass, then yes, he can patent that too.
True, but I was assuming a regular cow with an unmodified ass producing standard, government issue manure. ;) Steve T
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http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/10/1013_051013_gene_patent.html[^] u have to be absolutely f******** kidding me!! :wtf:
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Jeffry J. Brickley wrote:
Actually, if he breeds the cattle for manure production and succeeds, he can patent the breed of cattle and the fertilizer. And if the process made physical changes to the cows ass, then yes, he can patent that too.
True, but I was assuming a regular cow with an unmodified ass producing standard, government issue manure. ;) Steve T
FlyingTinman wrote:
government issue manure.
Well, given government issue, it must be piled higher and deeper, produced by a larger ass, from intake higher in fiber and other unprocessable material through a larger intake oraface as well.... http://lakeshoreimages.com/images8/47.jpg[^] That all sounds like patentable material to me. ;P In fact the government is now encouraging contractors to seek patents since they cannot, the contractors can seek patents to protect the government owned discoveries. My boss keeps reminding me that we have never had our meeting over what is patentable in my code. _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/10/1013_051013_gene_patent.html[^] u have to be absolutely f******** kidding me!! :wtf:
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{biz stuff} {about me}"Gene patents give their owners property rights over gene sequences—for example in a diagnostic test, as a test for the efficacy of a new drug, or in the production of therapeutic proteins," It's not actually the gene but it's use. The tigress is here :-D
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Without actually reading the patents, I am confident that they do not grant ownership of the genes. But if Company "B" develops a cure for cancer based on manufacturing those genes then shouldn't Company "A" be entitled to some of the profits.
Bob Flynn wrote:
do not grant ownership of the genes
Then why the controversy? I think that's just what the patents do: grant ownership of the genes. Hence the controversy. I think we're violently agreeing otherwise.
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The whole USPTO needs to be revamped. If there's one government office that is a monument to human idiocy gone rampant, that's the one. (Unless we're counting the Oval Office. :rolleyes: )* *Disclaimer: I'm a conservative. It's a freaking joke people. Laugh.
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revamped
I think you mean "torched, forked, hanged, and rebuilt from scratch"
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