Which version of the bible?
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Christians only. Ok, I'll open it to anyone. What version of the bible does your faith use? Which one do you generally read if you're not a Christian? I'm purposely posting this anonymously because I'm interested in what most people use and not in any of the BS which is sure to follow. Any version can be trusted only so far as it was translated from the original texts correctly. For me: King James Version, I consider it less of man's interpretation than the others. Post what version you use and a short blurb about why you like it better than the others.
I personally use many different translations because some wording gives me more meaning to the verse. Why should there be one translation? The Greek and Hebrew bibles have multitudes of words that can be translated differently based on tone and reflection of the word. One translation (eg the NIV) might use one word that adds more depth to the verse to me than a KJV would. Brett A. Whittington Application Developer
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Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote:
I prefer the NiRV - a more recent translation than the commonly found NiV...
Isn't that the "NIV for kids" translation? Odd that an adult would opt for something targeted at a 3rd grade reading level.
No, but they do a version for children as well. Clue: if you bought the copy with lots of colourful pictures and short sentances you bought the kids version... ;P Anna :rose: Riverblade Ltd - Software Consultancy Services Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work.
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I like the ones printed on really thin paper. It is great for rolling joints. Nunc est bibendum
I like thick but soft paper: good for arse-wiping.
Those who seek perfection will only find imperfection
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Christians only. Ok, I'll open it to anyone. What version of the bible does your faith use? Which one do you generally read if you're not a Christian? I'm purposely posting this anonymously because I'm interested in what most people use and not in any of the BS which is sure to follow. Any version can be trusted only so far as it was translated from the original texts correctly. For me: King James Version, I consider it less of man's interpretation than the others. Post what version you use and a short blurb about why you like it better than the others.
NIV publishes a range. Some of the nicer ones are very good because they have tons of annotations that elaborate on the historical, geographical and lexical background of various passages and they also have maps that show the geographical regions as they existed during the time that is relevant to the text at hand. But they tend to be printed on pretty good stock. I suggest a phone book if you are out of rolling papers or need a good wipe.
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Christians only. Ok, I'll open it to anyone. What version of the bible does your faith use? Which one do you generally read if you're not a Christian? I'm purposely posting this anonymously because I'm interested in what most people use and not in any of the BS which is sure to follow. Any version can be trusted only so far as it was translated from the original texts correctly. For me: King James Version, I consider it less of man's interpretation than the others. Post what version you use and a short blurb about why you like it better than the others.
Anonymous wrote:
Which one do you generally read if you're not a Christian?
As I am not a Christian, the Bible is not a source of religious understanding for me. Therefore I don't read it constantly. Though to appreciate the difference between the current Christian understanding and Islamic understanding on particular things (Jesus, Bible etc), I do read it from time to time. I dont stick to a particular version, and if I am told a specific part is better translated/explained in another one Ill check it out.
Anonymous wrote:
I'm purposely posting this anonymously because I'm interested in what most people use and not in any of the BS which is sure to follow.
Some of the responses are just pathetic. Quran Translation Intro Discover
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I personally use many different translations because some wording gives me more meaning to the verse. Why should there be one translation? The Greek and Hebrew bibles have multitudes of words that can be translated differently based on tone and reflection of the word. One translation (eg the NIV) might use one word that adds more depth to the verse to me than a KJV would. Brett A. Whittington Application Developer
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No, but they do a version for children as well. Clue: if you bought the copy with lots of colourful pictures and short sentances you bought the kids version... ;P Anna :rose: Riverblade Ltd - Software Consultancy Services Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work.
I think that he might be right, here is the IBS[^] website. :) The New International Reader's Version (NIrV®, 1996) is a new Bible version developed to enable early readers to understand God's message. Begun in 1992 and co-sponsored by the International Bible Society and Zondervan Publishing House, the New International Reader's Version is a simplification of the New International Version (NIV®), today's most popular translation of the Bible. The NIrV® was designed to make the Bible clear and understandable to early readers, and can be read by a typical fourth grader. For this reason, it is also of value to the millions for whom English is a second language. It intends to be distinguished by five fundamental characteristics—readability, understandability, compatibility with the NIV®, reliability and trustworthiness. It serves as a natural stepping-stone to the NIV® when the time is right. Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose. - Jim Elliot Me blog, You read
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C# is a false religion. C is the only true religion, and K&R wrote the book[^]. Cleek | Image Toolkits | Thumbnail maker
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Christians only. Ok, I'll open it to anyone. What version of the bible does your faith use? Which one do you generally read if you're not a Christian? I'm purposely posting this anonymously because I'm interested in what most people use and not in any of the BS which is sure to follow. Any version can be trusted only so far as it was translated from the original texts correctly. For me: King James Version, I consider it less of man's interpretation than the others. Post what version you use and a short blurb about why you like it better than the others.
I tend to use the New King James, and sometimes the NIV. I think that all translations are flawed enough for it to be a good idea to read more than one. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++
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I tend to use the New King James, and sometimes the NIV. I think that all translations are flawed enough for it to be a good idea to read more than one. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++
I heard a preacher one time say that you were going to burn forever in the lake of fire if you used the NIV. :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
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I heard a preacher one time say that you were going to burn forever in the lake of fire if you used the NIV. :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
Yeah, that does not surprise me. I believe even the Good News is good enough, but for serious study, you need to understand the bias of the translators and have more than one translation at hand. Going back to the Greek is even better, although I don't believe that any doctrine which derives from translation of the Greek that is fundamentally different to what the English Bibles all say is correct. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++
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Yeah, that does not surprise me. I believe even the Good News is good enough, but for serious study, you need to understand the bias of the translators and have more than one translation at hand. Going back to the Greek is even better, although I don't believe that any doctrine which derives from translation of the Greek that is fundamentally different to what the English Bibles all say is correct. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++
I also read a writing from one church that claimed you were going to burn forever if you had pictures from an "Image making machine" in your mind. They were refering to TV or computer.
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I also read a writing from one church that claimed you were going to burn forever if you had pictures from an "Image making machine" in your mind. They were refering to TV or computer.
Yeah, it's pretty sad. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++
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Christians only. Ok, I'll open it to anyone. What version of the bible does your faith use? Which one do you generally read if you're not a Christian? I'm purposely posting this anonymously because I'm interested in what most people use and not in any of the BS which is sure to follow. Any version can be trusted only so far as it was translated from the original texts correctly. For me: King James Version, I consider it less of man's interpretation than the others. Post what version you use and a short blurb about why you like it better than the others.
This one.[^] But I don't think you'd understand much of it :)
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C# is a false religion. C is the only true religion, and K&R wrote the book[^]. Cleek | Image Toolkits | Thumbnail maker
Chris Losinger wrote:
and K&R wrote the book[^].
That's Old Testament. New Testament[^] was written by Bjarne Stroustrup.
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C# is a false religion. C is the only true religion, and K&R wrote the book[^]. Cleek | Image Toolkits | Thumbnail maker
Chris Losinger wrote:
and K&R wrote the book[^].
And of course all the dysfunctional programmers need to buy the follow-up book "What Do You Say After You Have Said Hello". ;P
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Yeah, that does not surprise me. I believe even the Good News is good enough, but for serious study, you need to understand the bias of the translators and have more than one translation at hand. Going back to the Greek is even better, although I don't believe that any doctrine which derives from translation of the Greek that is fundamentally different to what the English Bibles all say is correct. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++
Our Pastor had a seminary professor that said NIV stood for Nearly Inspired Version :) Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose. - Jim Elliot Me blog, You read
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Our Pastor had a seminary professor that said NIV stood for Nearly Inspired Version :) Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose. - Jim Elliot Me blog, You read
It is true that a lot of the bias that went into the KJV flowed on to the NIV, and the NIV has troubles of it's own, but I don't believe they are ever bad enough to cause issues, except with people who want to examine the Bible like a legal document, and argue over every jot and tittle. I know that my church uses the KJV mostly, and there are people in our church who think it's the only God inspired version. But that is not the churches position, nor should it be. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++
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Chris Losinger wrote:
and K&R wrote the book[^].
That's Old Testament. New Testament[^] was written by Bjarne Stroustrup.
My programming blahblahblah blog. If you ever find anything useful here, please let me know to remove it.
Nemanja Trifunovic wrote:
Bjarne Stroustrup
a false prophet. C++ is a mere embellishment of the Pure Truth of C. Cleek | Image Toolkits | Thumbnail maker
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It is true that a lot of the bias that went into the KJV flowed on to the NIV, and the NIV has troubles of it's own, but I don't believe they are ever bad enough to cause issues, except with people who want to examine the Bible like a legal document, and argue over every jot and tittle. I know that my church uses the KJV mostly, and there are people in our church who think it's the only God inspired version. But that is not the churches position, nor should it be. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++
It would seem that there are many that think that Jesus spaketh King James English. :) I like literal word-for-word translations even though they are not immune from the bias you mention. I have a NASB-NIV-Greek interlinear Bible and it interesting to see the differences in the translations and the Greek and transcribed Greek-to-English text. Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose. - Jim Elliot Me blog, You read