Which version of the bible?
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No, but they do a version for children as well. Clue: if you bought the copy with lots of colourful pictures and short sentances you bought the kids version... ;P Anna :rose: Riverblade Ltd - Software Consultancy Services Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work.
I think that he might be right, here is the IBS[^] website. :) The New International Reader's Version (NIrV®, 1996) is a new Bible version developed to enable early readers to understand God's message. Begun in 1992 and co-sponsored by the International Bible Society and Zondervan Publishing House, the New International Reader's Version is a simplification of the New International Version (NIV®), today's most popular translation of the Bible. The NIrV® was designed to make the Bible clear and understandable to early readers, and can be read by a typical fourth grader. For this reason, it is also of value to the millions for whom English is a second language. It intends to be distinguished by five fundamental characteristics—readability, understandability, compatibility with the NIV®, reliability and trustworthiness. It serves as a natural stepping-stone to the NIV® when the time is right. Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose. - Jim Elliot Me blog, You read
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C# is a false religion. C is the only true religion, and K&R wrote the book[^]. Cleek | Image Toolkits | Thumbnail maker
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Christians only. Ok, I'll open it to anyone. What version of the bible does your faith use? Which one do you generally read if you're not a Christian? I'm purposely posting this anonymously because I'm interested in what most people use and not in any of the BS which is sure to follow. Any version can be trusted only so far as it was translated from the original texts correctly. For me: King James Version, I consider it less of man's interpretation than the others. Post what version you use and a short blurb about why you like it better than the others.
I tend to use the New King James, and sometimes the NIV. I think that all translations are flawed enough for it to be a good idea to read more than one. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++
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I tend to use the New King James, and sometimes the NIV. I think that all translations are flawed enough for it to be a good idea to read more than one. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++
I heard a preacher one time say that you were going to burn forever in the lake of fire if you used the NIV. :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
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I heard a preacher one time say that you were going to burn forever in the lake of fire if you used the NIV. :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
Yeah, that does not surprise me. I believe even the Good News is good enough, but for serious study, you need to understand the bias of the translators and have more than one translation at hand. Going back to the Greek is even better, although I don't believe that any doctrine which derives from translation of the Greek that is fundamentally different to what the English Bibles all say is correct. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++
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Yeah, that does not surprise me. I believe even the Good News is good enough, but for serious study, you need to understand the bias of the translators and have more than one translation at hand. Going back to the Greek is even better, although I don't believe that any doctrine which derives from translation of the Greek that is fundamentally different to what the English Bibles all say is correct. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++
I also read a writing from one church that claimed you were going to burn forever if you had pictures from an "Image making machine" in your mind. They were refering to TV or computer.
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I also read a writing from one church that claimed you were going to burn forever if you had pictures from an "Image making machine" in your mind. They were refering to TV or computer.
Yeah, it's pretty sad. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++
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Christians only. Ok, I'll open it to anyone. What version of the bible does your faith use? Which one do you generally read if you're not a Christian? I'm purposely posting this anonymously because I'm interested in what most people use and not in any of the BS which is sure to follow. Any version can be trusted only so far as it was translated from the original texts correctly. For me: King James Version, I consider it less of man's interpretation than the others. Post what version you use and a short blurb about why you like it better than the others.
This one.[^] But I don't think you'd understand much of it :)
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C# is a false religion. C is the only true religion, and K&R wrote the book[^]. Cleek | Image Toolkits | Thumbnail maker
Chris Losinger wrote:
and K&R wrote the book[^].
That's Old Testament. New Testament[^] was written by Bjarne Stroustrup.
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C# is a false religion. C is the only true religion, and K&R wrote the book[^]. Cleek | Image Toolkits | Thumbnail maker
Chris Losinger wrote:
and K&R wrote the book[^].
And of course all the dysfunctional programmers need to buy the follow-up book "What Do You Say After You Have Said Hello". ;P
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Yeah, that does not surprise me. I believe even the Good News is good enough, but for serious study, you need to understand the bias of the translators and have more than one translation at hand. Going back to the Greek is even better, although I don't believe that any doctrine which derives from translation of the Greek that is fundamentally different to what the English Bibles all say is correct. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++
Our Pastor had a seminary professor that said NIV stood for Nearly Inspired Version :) Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose. - Jim Elliot Me blog, You read
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Our Pastor had a seminary professor that said NIV stood for Nearly Inspired Version :) Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose. - Jim Elliot Me blog, You read
It is true that a lot of the bias that went into the KJV flowed on to the NIV, and the NIV has troubles of it's own, but I don't believe they are ever bad enough to cause issues, except with people who want to examine the Bible like a legal document, and argue over every jot and tittle. I know that my church uses the KJV mostly, and there are people in our church who think it's the only God inspired version. But that is not the churches position, nor should it be. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++
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Chris Losinger wrote:
and K&R wrote the book[^].
That's Old Testament. New Testament[^] was written by Bjarne Stroustrup.
My programming blahblahblah blog. If you ever find anything useful here, please let me know to remove it.
Nemanja Trifunovic wrote:
Bjarne Stroustrup
a false prophet. C++ is a mere embellishment of the Pure Truth of C. Cleek | Image Toolkits | Thumbnail maker
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It is true that a lot of the bias that went into the KJV flowed on to the NIV, and the NIV has troubles of it's own, but I don't believe they are ever bad enough to cause issues, except with people who want to examine the Bible like a legal document, and argue over every jot and tittle. I know that my church uses the KJV mostly, and there are people in our church who think it's the only God inspired version. But that is not the churches position, nor should it be. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++
It would seem that there are many that think that Jesus spaketh King James English. :) I like literal word-for-word translations even though they are not immune from the bias you mention. I have a NASB-NIV-Greek interlinear Bible and it interesting to see the differences in the translations and the Greek and transcribed Greek-to-English text. Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose. - Jim Elliot Me blog, You read
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Christians only. Ok, I'll open it to anyone. What version of the bible does your faith use? Which one do you generally read if you're not a Christian? I'm purposely posting this anonymously because I'm interested in what most people use and not in any of the BS which is sure to follow. Any version can be trusted only so far as it was translated from the original texts correctly. For me: King James Version, I consider it less of man's interpretation than the others. Post what version you use and a short blurb about why you like it better than the others.
I like the NASB version best, because it has good readability and at the same time is fairly close to 'literal' in its translation. There are a lot of good translations but it's just my favorite. I also like to study the Hebrew and Greek words in a passage, because you can catch a lot of nuances that you wouldn't otherwise catch (that really can't be translated intact) - but sadly it's a lot of work for me because I don't really know Hebrew or Greek.
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Christians only. Ok, I'll open it to anyone. What version of the bible does your faith use? Which one do you generally read if you're not a Christian? I'm purposely posting this anonymously because I'm interested in what most people use and not in any of the BS which is sure to follow. Any version can be trusted only so far as it was translated from the original texts correctly. For me: King James Version, I consider it less of man's interpretation than the others. Post what version you use and a short blurb about why you like it better than the others.
I use the NIV Study Bible version (very good as it does have heaps of footnotes and references to give more insight into the verses). I find KJV a bit hard to understand and I encounter the Amplified bible and NASB a lot in references from Christian books. They are pretty good in emphasizing different points the authors tried to make. The funny thing is how is it that with so many different bible versions some people still swear to one version word-by-word and taking it literally instead of looking further to what the lies beneath the text. Ed All things are good in God's time
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I think that he might be right, here is the IBS[^] website. :) The New International Reader's Version (NIrV®, 1996) is a new Bible version developed to enable early readers to understand God's message. Begun in 1992 and co-sponsored by the International Bible Society and Zondervan Publishing House, the New International Reader's Version is a simplification of the New International Version (NIV®), today's most popular translation of the Bible. The NIrV® was designed to make the Bible clear and understandable to early readers, and can be read by a typical fourth grader. For this reason, it is also of value to the millions for whom English is a second language. It intends to be distinguished by five fundamental characteristics—readability, understandability, compatibility with the NIV®, reliability and trustworthiness. It serves as a natural stepping-stone to the NIV® when the time is right. Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose. - Jim Elliot Me blog, You read
That's news to me. The preface states that they simply wanted to produce a modern translation in the same spirit as the NiV. The language is updated, but not simplified as such...and it's certainly not a child's book. Fourth grade is primary school isn't it? At nearly 1400 pages I'd love to see the 4th grader who could successfully read my copy! :laugh: Mine's a slightly earlier edition of this one[^]. Anna :rose: Riverblade Ltd - Software Consultancy Services Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work. -- modified at 2:43 Tuesday 25th October, 2005
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Christians only. Ok, I'll open it to anyone. What version of the bible does your faith use? Which one do you generally read if you're not a Christian? I'm purposely posting this anonymously because I'm interested in what most people use and not in any of the BS which is sure to follow. Any version can be trusted only so far as it was translated from the original texts correctly. For me: King James Version, I consider it less of man's interpretation than the others. Post what version you use and a short blurb about why you like it better than the others.
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This one.[^] But I don't think you'd understand much of it :)
My programming blahblahblah blog. If you ever find anything useful here, please let me know to remove it.
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C# is a false religion. C is the only true religion, and K&R wrote the book[^]. Cleek | Image Toolkits | Thumbnail maker
And I replied: [Chris Losinger wrote: and K&R wrote the book[^].] And of course all the dysfunctional programmers need to buy the follow-up book "What Do You Say After You Have Said Hello". I guess no one caught the reference to the fact that the K&R book (and every one after that) shows you how to write "Hello World"! :rose: