Why buy American at all ?
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Carl Mercier wrote:
GM quality just stinks right now.
I had a Chevrolet Caprice Classic by GM. For 14 years the car never needed a tune-up but still passed California's emissions test -- not by a whisker but by a mile! I took it from sea level (San Jose, CA) to one mile up in the air (Denver, CO). No problem. Went to the top of Rocky Mountain National Park (12,000' elevation) and still no problem. The poor car died of a broken heart when I didn't drive it for 6 months and instead used the company car (Infiniti Q45)! Except for that Infiniti, I always owned and drove American built cars -- even abroad.
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A Mini? ... for an American? ... have u seen our sizes lately? ;)
Pete Madden wrote:
A Mini? ... for an American? ... have u seen our sizes lately?
I test-drove (comfortably) a Honda Insight while I was car shopping two years ago. If I can fit in that car, I am sure I can fit in a mini. ;P _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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John Cardinal wrote:
People are starting to accept the fact that the "emporer has no clothes".
You must not live in the rural midwest. Them's some good ole boys. I knew someone once who would not buy the Mitsubishi GT 3000 because it was a Japanese auto. He went out and bought the Dodge RT Turbo instead. I tried to explain to him that both autos were built on the same assembly line in the same plant in Japan. I even showed him that his VIN started with J. He never was able to grasp that concept. -Sean ---- Shag a Lizard
Sean Cundiff wrote:
He never was able to grasp that concept.
Most people don't. They believe what they wanted to believe before you showed them otherwise. Because they never wanted to see what you showed them. _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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I am talking about automobiles here. I was planning on buying a Japanese one and a colleague at my office was lecturing me on how I should go for GM/Ford/Chrylser makes only. Now why should I? The whole point of "Buy American" was 1. To show that we trusted our companies, their brilliant engineers and trained workers 2. To create more jobs in the auto industry 3. Patriotism But now that all our companies have moved their work offshore and almost nothing is being manufactured or assembled here why the heck should I buy an American car? Not to mention the fact that they are far less reliable and are mostly gas guzzlers. There just doesn't seem to be an "American" car anymore. Most parts are imported or parts are assembled elsewhere. As far as I know except for a few Japanese makes (Honda, Toyota and Nissan) and BMW there aren't any carmakers that can associate themselves with a country...thanks to Ford/GM and Chrysler.
Volvo :) Great Great Car... I am saving for one.
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Umm... Toyota assembles cars in the US. They have factories in Indiana to assemble some of their vehicles. I agree though, US cars are assembled poorly when compared to others. Sad really and hard to figure out why that is so. Sometimes I think we've just gotten lazy with all the success we may have had long ago:sigh: ------------------------------------- Do not do what has already been done.
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:) What goes around comes around! -Sean ---- Shag a Lizard
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
Get one of those new-fangled Toyota
So you are willing to buy a foreign car but don't like "foreigners" (your word) writing programs? Can you explain the discrepancy in your thinking? :rose:
Quality of the product. (In some, by no means, all cases.) -Sean ---- Shag a Lizard
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
Get one of those new-fangled Toyota
So you are willing to buy a foreign car but don't like "foreigners" (your word) writing programs? Can you explain the discrepancy in your thinking? :rose:
Vivic wrote:
So you are willing to buy a foreign car but don't like "foreigners" (your word) writing programs? Can you explain the discrepancy in your thinking?
There is no discrepancy. I don't like foreigner programmers that take out-source jobs, and the last time I checked, this had absolutely nothing to do with who makes cars. Do you need help with simple mental processes all the time, or is today special? ------- sig starts "I've heard some drivers saying, 'We're going too fast here...'. If you're not here to race, go the hell home - don't come here and grumble about going too fast. Why don't you tie a kerosene rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001
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Vivic wrote:
So you are willing to buy a foreign car but don't like "foreigners" (your word) writing programs? Can you explain the discrepancy in your thinking?
There is no discrepancy. I don't like foreigner programmers that take out-source jobs, and the last time I checked, this had absolutely nothing to do with who makes cars. Do you need help with simple mental processes all the time, or is today special? ------- sig starts "I've heard some drivers saying, 'We're going too fast here...'. If you're not here to race, go the hell home - don't come here and grumble about going too fast. Why don't you tie a kerosene rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001
John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
There is no discrepancy. I don't like foreigner programmers that take out-source jobs, and the last time I checked, this had absolutely nothing to do with who makes cars.
Don't you think American jobs go away to foreign countries if Americans buy cars made outside America? Or does that logic somehow not apply and you care only about programming jobs because you feel personally threatened because what you do is not that special either and could be done equally competently by foreigners? How is it that almost all the companies with CMM Level 5 certification (which guarantees a certain level of software quality) are outside the US?
John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
Do you need help with simple mental processes all the time, or is today special?
It is obvious to the entire world who requires assistance with mental processes. I know it is a tough world out there. Get a six-pack and watch "Dukes of Hazzard" or NASCAR racing on TV.;P.
