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    MSNBC Story[^] Windows Live Beta Site[^] Tom Archer (blog) Program Manager MSDN Online (Windows Vista and Visual C++) MICROSOFT -- modified at 16:04 Tuesday 1st November, 2005

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    J Dunlap
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    "Firefox Users Firefox support is coming soon. Please be patient :-)" Well, at least they haven't forgotten us. :-)

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      Microsoft answer for Google personalized page ! "Not everything that counts can be counted..." -Albert Einstein -- modified at 16:41 Tuesday 1st November, 2005

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      I think you're confusing start.com and Windows Live. The former is a personalized page while the latter enhances Windows apps by providing services that can be used over the Internet as opposed to having to download them - along the lines of what XBox Live does for gamers. Tom Archer (blog) Program Manager MSDN Online (Windows Vista and Visual C++) MICROSOFT

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        Would you care to give us some insider gossip on whether this is an attempt by Microsoft to counter Google's involvement with OpenOffice? :D cheers, Chris Maunder

        CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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        From the benchmarks that people are publishing re: OpenOffice, that thing needs all the help it can get. Actually Windows Live is much more than Office Live (which is what you're thinking of) as it promises to be live updates to Windows and many Windows apps. Here are some: http://ideas.live.com/[^] Tom Archer (blog) Program Manager MSDN Online (Windows Vista and Visual C++) MICROSOFT

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          Looks to me to be an extension of the work done by the MSN Start.com team. Looking forward to see how this idea develops. Michael CP Blog [^] Development Blog [^]

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          Tom Archer
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          A more accurate description is that it does for Windows what XBox Live did for XBox gamers. Therefore, the key technologies build on the XBox Live foundation and the page itself is dynamic - vis a vis start.com Tom Archer (blog) Program Manager MSDN Online (Windows Vista and Visual C++) MICROSOFT

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          • T Tom Archer

            I think you're confusing start.com and Windows Live. The former is a personalized page while the latter enhances Windows apps by providing services that can be used over the Internet as opposed to having to download them - along the lines of what XBox Live does for gamers. Tom Archer (blog) Program Manager MSDN Online (Windows Vista and Visual C++) MICROSOFT

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            Thanks for the clarification , Though it does say its an extension of start.com , But I agree it will be much more thicker than a personalized page eventually. The Idea is Great , May be they can add online storage (free) for files etc too, that will be a great add-on to the basic idea of centralizing the work on the web. "Not everything that counts can be counted..." -Albert Einstein

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              Thanks for the clarification , Though it does say its an extension of start.com , But I agree it will be much more thicker than a personalized page eventually. The Idea is Great , May be they can add online storage (free) for files etc too, that will be a great add-on to the basic idea of centralizing the work on the web. "Not everything that counts can be counted..." -Albert Einstein

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              I think they mean that live.com is an extension of start.com. Windows Live, on the other hand, is a technology that allows the ability to have Windows features centralized instead of downloaded to each of your PCs[1] [1] I state "each of your PCs" as the main audience is people who need to have the same features wherever they go - without having to constantly check for updated, download new revisions, etc to each device they use (home pc, work pc, pda, mobile phone, etc.) Tom Archer (blog) Program Manager MSDN Online (Windows Vista and Visual C++) MICROSOFT

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                MSNBC Story[^] Windows Live Beta Site[^] Tom Archer (blog) Program Manager MSDN Online (Windows Vista and Visual C++) MICROSOFT -- modified at 16:04 Tuesday 1st November, 2005

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                I wonder what the business case for this is. In particular, I wonder if: 1) people work in an "always on" environment so as to benefit from stuff like this 2) is the performance acceptable for dial up connections, which a lot of the world still uses 3) are people really willing to enable automatic updates of software? The latest Windows updates just cost me 5 days of downtime on my web server because they killed IIS. Also, didn't Oracle try something like this 10 years ago? Didn't it flop miserably? 4) is this moving in the direction of people storing their documents remotely? 5) if 4, then is this moving in a direction so that my "office" moves with me, regardless of what machine I'm on? 6) if 5, do you trust this environment? I wouldn't. Marc My website Traceract Understanding Simple Data Binding Diary Of A CEO - Preface

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                  I wonder what the business case for this is. In particular, I wonder if: 1) people work in an "always on" environment so as to benefit from stuff like this 2) is the performance acceptable for dial up connections, which a lot of the world still uses 3) are people really willing to enable automatic updates of software? The latest Windows updates just cost me 5 days of downtime on my web server because they killed IIS. Also, didn't Oracle try something like this 10 years ago? Didn't it flop miserably? 4) is this moving in the direction of people storing their documents remotely? 5) if 4, then is this moving in a direction so that my "office" moves with me, regardless of what machine I'm on? 6) if 5, do you trust this environment? I wouldn't. Marc My website Traceract Understanding Simple Data Binding Diary Of A CEO - Preface

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                  Do I think it's appropriate for everyone? No. However, if it's what they're promising, it'll be fantastic for millions of workers that work in more than one place - executives, sales, marketing, etc. Tom Archer (blog) Program Manager MSDN Online (Windows Vista and Visual C++) MICROSOFT

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                    Do I think it's appropriate for everyone? No. However, if it's what they're promising, it'll be fantastic for millions of workers that work in more than one place - executives, sales, marketing, etc. Tom Archer (blog) Program Manager MSDN Online (Windows Vista and Visual C++) MICROSOFT

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                    Tom Archer - MSFT wrote:

                    it'll be fantastic for millions of workers that work in more than one place

                    Ummm, I must be missing the picture. How so? And gads, are there really millions of executives, sales, and marketing people? We're in trouble! Marc My website Traceract Understanding Simple Data Binding Diary Of A CEO - Preface

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                      Tom Archer - MSFT wrote:

                      it'll be fantastic for millions of workers that work in more than one place

                      Ummm, I must be missing the picture. How so? And gads, are there really millions of executives, sales, and marketing people? We're in trouble! Marc My website Traceract Understanding Simple Data Binding Diary Of A CEO - Preface

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                      Wow. This looks just like My.Yahoo.Com. Sorry, I don't see what this brings to the market and I don't have an XBox so I don't get the analogy. E=mc2  ->  BOOM

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                      • T Tom Archer

                        MSNBC Story[^] Windows Live Beta Site[^] Tom Archer (blog) Program Manager MSDN Online (Windows Vista and Visual C++) MICROSOFT -- modified at 16:04 Tuesday 1st November, 2005

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                        I thought at first when I saw your thread title that Microsoft was making an online version of Office that could be used with a web browser which sounded cool, but I'm guessing I was way off on that one judging by what the beta site has? I read all the other posts but I'm as confused as ever, maybe you were privvy to some info or features that aren't up there yet?


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                          MSNBC Story[^] Windows Live Beta Site[^] Tom Archer (blog) Program Manager MSDN Online (Windows Vista and Visual C++) MICROSOFT -- modified at 16:04 Tuesday 1st November, 2005

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                          peterchen
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                          With the whole office on a sloppy 128k line? No thanks.


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