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Will DotNetNuke dominate?

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    SIJUTHOMASP
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    Hai All, After one year it is espected that most of the web applicationa can be done easily through DotNetNuke content management system. So it will be great advantage of those who are knowing DotNetNuke to get Jobs. Am I right? May i know your descisions? Thank You, Rahul.P.Menon. "Programming for an application is not much difficult..But Programming your life with out any bugs is really important and appreaciable"

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      Hai All, After one year it is espected that most of the web applicationa can be done easily through DotNetNuke content management system. So it will be great advantage of those who are knowing DotNetNuke to get Jobs. Am I right? May i know your descisions? Thank You, Rahul.P.Menon. "Programming for an application is not much difficult..But Programming your life with out any bugs is really important and appreaciable"

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      SotirisF
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      Although it's not the best CMS around (actually, it's not a real CMS!) I think that it's going to dominate thanks to its popularity and the loads of plugins that have been released so far. Sotiris Filippidis

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        Hai All, After one year it is espected that most of the web applicationa can be done easily through DotNetNuke content management system. So it will be great advantage of those who are knowing DotNetNuke to get Jobs. Am I right? May i know your descisions? Thank You, Rahul.P.Menon. "Programming for an application is not much difficult..But Programming your life with out any bugs is really important and appreaciable"

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        Marc Clifton
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        Rahul.P.Menon wrote:

        Am I right?

        Uh...no. Marc My website Traceract Understanding Simple Data Binding Diary Of A CEO - Preface

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          Hai All, After one year it is espected that most of the web applicationa can be done easily through DotNetNuke content management system. So it will be great advantage of those who are knowing DotNetNuke to get Jobs. Am I right? May i know your descisions? Thank You, Rahul.P.Menon. "Programming for an application is not much difficult..But Programming your life with out any bugs is really important and appreaciable"

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          Paul Watson
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          Uh... hell no. regards, Paul Watson Ireland Colib and ilikecameras. K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!

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            Although it's not the best CMS around (actually, it's not a real CMS!) I think that it's going to dominate thanks to its popularity and the loads of plugins that have been released so far. Sotiris Filippidis

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            Dinuj Nath
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            SotirisF wrote:

            actually, it's not a real CMS!

            Can you please tell me what is meant by a CMS ? I mean what are the must haves for a web app of this type to be called an CMS ? Any examples ? Is phpnuke a cms ? Thanks

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              SotirisF wrote:

              actually, it's not a real CMS!

              Can you please tell me what is meant by a CMS ? I mean what are the must haves for a web app of this type to be called an CMS ? Any examples ? Is phpnuke a cms ? Thanks

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              SotirisF
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              I really can't tell you about PhpNuke because I haven't had a "hands-on" experience on it. What I can tell you is that the term Content Management System" hasn't got a very clear definition. From my point of view, a CMS should tread information as objects, with attributes, relations and all. DNN treats information as "pages", integrating them with a so-called "site map" or "menu system". No real content handling takes place. From someone else's point of view, this could probably be THE definition of a CMS. Not for me.

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                I really can't tell you about PhpNuke because I haven't had a "hands-on" experience on it. What I can tell you is that the term Content Management System" hasn't got a very clear definition. From my point of view, a CMS should tread information as objects, with attributes, relations and all. DNN treats information as "pages", integrating them with a so-called "site map" or "menu system". No real content handling takes place. From someone else's point of view, this could probably be THE definition of a CMS. Not for me.

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                Dinuj Nath
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                Thanks, I don't know too much about technical defination of CMS. What I thought was that it is simply an web app which lets you maybe create and manage websites with dynamic contents without much hassles. Can you please point me to some CMSes which treat information the way you defined it.

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                  Thanks, I don't know too much about technical defination of CMS. What I thought was that it is simply an web app which lets you maybe create and manage websites with dynamic contents without much hassles. Can you please point me to some CMSes which treat information the way you defined it.

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                  SotirisF
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                  You can try http://www.reddot.com/[^] sotiris Filippidis

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                    Hai All, After one year it is espected that most of the web applicationa can be done easily through DotNetNuke content management system. So it will be great advantage of those who are knowing DotNetNuke to get Jobs. Am I right? May i know your descisions? Thank You, Rahul.P.Menon. "Programming for an application is not much difficult..But Programming your life with out any bugs is really important and appreaciable"

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                    Michael P Butler
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                    The profanity filter prevents me from giving my true thoughts on how bad DNN is. As soon as I can invest some time, I'll be kicking it out of WDevs.com Michael CP Blog [^] Development Blog [^]

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                      Hai All, After one year it is espected that most of the web applicationa can be done easily through DotNetNuke content management system. So it will be great advantage of those who are knowing DotNetNuke to get Jobs. Am I right? May i know your descisions? Thank You, Rahul.P.Menon. "Programming for an application is not much difficult..But Programming your life with out any bugs is really important and appreaciable"

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                      Ryan Roberts
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                      Rahul.P.Menon wrote:

                      After one year it is espected that most of the web applicationa can be done easily through DotNetNuke content management system.

                      Er, no. It's a portal system (barely), not a CMS. The fact it has no workflow features and especialy the fact it lacks revision control means it can't be used by anyone who wants commercial CMS features. Also, the design interface is entered around the positioning / configuration of plugins, not the insertion / editing of content - which is delegated to the bog standard(i.e. awful) Html plugin. 99% of the usage of a CMS is by someone who just wants to publish their word document at a specific point in a site's page hierarchy and not have it look like a total mess - not add 300 news tickers and Weather maps. It's a start, but for most of the applications I can think of using it for, I would rather use sharepoint. Now Apache lenya, that looks like it has potential. Ryan

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                        The profanity filter prevents me from giving my true thoughts on how bad DNN is. As soon as I can invest some time, I'll be kicking it out of WDevs.com Michael CP Blog [^] Development Blog [^]

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                        Marc Clifton
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                        Michael P Butler wrote:

                        how bad DNN is.

                        How so? For what it does (which may be the problem, hehe), I'm quite happy with it. But then again, I haven't tried coding in it. Is the problem with the architecture, the implementation, both? Marc My website Traceract Understanding Simple Data Binding Diary Of A CEO - Preface

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                          Michael P Butler wrote:

                          how bad DNN is.

                          How so? For what it does (which may be the problem, hehe), I'm quite happy with it. But then again, I haven't tried coding in it. Is the problem with the architecture, the implementation, both? Marc My website Traceract Understanding Simple Data Binding Diary Of A CEO - Preface

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                          Michael P Butler
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                          Marc Clifton wrote:

                          How so? For what it does (which may be the problem, hehe), I'm quite happy with it. But then again, I haven't tried coding in it. Is the problem with the architecture, the implementation, both?

                          I'm trying to integrate the WDevs open-source hosting into the site better, but spend most of my time fighting with DNN. Maybe it's because I'm still a desktop developer at heart. Anders did a wonderful job getting DNN to integrate with the blogs and all the other components. There are lots of other problems too, but mainly to-do with some of the other modules rather than the DNN core. There are also some security issues I'm not too happy about either. A lot depends on the changes DNN makes for ASP.NET 2.0, I'd like to make better use of web-parts and the like. I've yet to find anything to replace it with though but am very tempted to write my own. Michael CP Blog [^] Development Blog [^]

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                            Hai All, After one year it is espected that most of the web applicationa can be done easily through DotNetNuke content management system. So it will be great advantage of those who are knowing DotNetNuke to get Jobs. Am I right? May i know your descisions? Thank You, Rahul.P.Menon. "Programming for an application is not much difficult..But Programming your life with out any bugs is really important and appreaciable"

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                            Mikko Puonti
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                            Most likely Microsoft's Windows Vista ClickOnce (& Pray): Web Deployment is going to change web development scene a bit around year 2008. So you can't just to learn DNN and then stop learning. In every workplace where I have been, I have allways needed to learn new technology and way to work. I have implemented 2 webpages with Microsoft's CMS and I must say that it was damn high cost base infrastucture to build webpages. Meaning: Microsoft's CMS was good and healthy infrastructure, but you needed to code every DAMN control by yourself. I even needed to customize Microsoft's base HTML control, because it didn't allow proper HTML filtering. From this viewpoint, DNN looks pretty good. It have lot's of ready made and useful components that you just can install your system and start using them.


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                              Hai All, After one year it is espected that most of the web applicationa can be done easily through DotNetNuke content management system. So it will be great advantage of those who are knowing DotNetNuke to get Jobs. Am I right? May i know your descisions? Thank You, Rahul.P.Menon. "Programming for an application is not much difficult..But Programming your life with out any bugs is really important and appreaciable"

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                              SIJUTHOMASP
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                              Hai All, Thanks a lot for all your responses. I thought that DNN is a real CMS but disappointed by hearing the fact.I like the architecture of DNN and don't like the exception handling... So I can change my word like "It will be advantage" instead of "great advantage"... Thank You, Rahul. "There is no PERFECT Life,but we can fill it with PERFECT MOMENTS!!!!"

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                                Hai All, After one year it is espected that most of the web applicationa can be done easily through DotNetNuke content management system. So it will be great advantage of those who are knowing DotNetNuke to get Jobs. Am I right? May i know your descisions? Thank You, Rahul.P.Menon. "Programming for an application is not much difficult..But Programming your life with out any bugs is really important and appreaciable"

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                                Rocky Moore
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                                It all depends on what you wish to use it to build. To me, the key target for DNN is for those that want to build a web site (multiple page site with dynamic content like blogs, forums, photo albums, light ecommerce, etc). Another good target is for those that setup web sites which clients can easily keep their own site updated via the web browser, which is a hot target out there right now. For those targets, I think DNN works quite well and is easy to get up and going with out a lot of hassle. Since it allows multiple domains on a single install it is also very easy on the resources allowing for a great number of sites to host on one install. The primary feature is the same as IBuySpy portal though, you can easily change the content of the site remotely via a web browser. This allows non-technical people to actually build and update sites without much knowledge of the web world if you have decent modules. For a developer who has the knowledge and plans to build a high performance or large scale site where remote modifications are not required, DNN has little to offer. Recently, I dug into DNN a bit, building a couple modules and laying out a few skins, and so far it works really well. There are some quirks, but I know there will always be those. If DNN would have been at this point a couple years ago when I put out my www.HintAndTips.com, I would have used it to build that site and probably saved myself a considerable amount of time. As far as the DNN jobs, they appear every now and then, but I believe that there will be a much larger demand in the near future and that module developers and skin designers should make a nice chunk of change as DNN moves into the masses. Rocky <>< Latest Post: Time for change! Blog: www.RockyMoore.com/TheCoder/[^]

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