And some news about some good Iranians.
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Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote:
The old testament is. Death, or at least slavery, to all gentiles etc.
I know you edited, but where does it say this in the old testament?
It's sprinkled everywhere in the OT. I wish I could give you the verses, but I haven't memorized the numbers, and it was a couple of months ago I read it. Perhaps someone in the audience could find them? Basically, they all say that the only good gentiles are those who are either dead or serve the jews as slaves more or less. Heck, even marrying a non-gentile should be punished by death/exile (depending on which verse you read). -- Pictures[^] from my Japan trip.
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"Everyone there should move, should run, should grab more hills, expand the territory. Everything that's grabbed, will be in our hands. Everything we don't grab will be in their hands.", Ariel Sharon -- modified at 19:02 Wednesday 2nd November, 2005
Made in 1998, in reponse to Arafats threat to take up guns against the isrealis if theY "try to prevent us from praying in east Jerusalem". Not exactly a stellar time in the history of the mideast. Times do change, and Sharon seems to have mellowed. Iran has not... A more recent quote: "If we [are to] reach a situation of true peace, real peace, peace for generations, we will have to make painful concessions. Not in exchange for promises, but rather in exchange for peace." — Ariel Sharon, as Prime Minister, April 2003. Absolute faith corrupts as absolutely as absolute power Eric Hoffer All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Edmund Burke
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Made in 1998, in reponse to Arafats threat to take up guns against the isrealis if theY "try to prevent us from praying in east Jerusalem". Not exactly a stellar time in the history of the mideast. Times do change, and Sharon seems to have mellowed. Iran has not... A more recent quote: "If we [are to] reach a situation of true peace, real peace, peace for generations, we will have to make painful concessions. Not in exchange for promises, but rather in exchange for peace." — Ariel Sharon, as Prime Minister, April 2003. Absolute faith corrupts as absolutely as absolute power Eric Hoffer All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Edmund Burke
Maybe he isn't as impolitic as the Iranian president, but I very much doubt that he has mellowed. He is still committed to the hypocritical stance that no one can have nuclear weapons in the middle east but Israel. http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/israel/nuke/[^] And he has made noises about violating Iranian airspace to bomb nuclear reactor sites. http://www.counterpunch.org/frank06032005.html[^] I am not in any way advocating nuclear exchange in the middle east - but that is not what this is about. Rhetoric aside - there is just no way that this would happen because MAD applies just as much in the middle east as anywhere else.
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Maybe he isn't as impolitic as the Iranian president, but I very much doubt that he has mellowed. He is still committed to the hypocritical stance that no one can have nuclear weapons in the middle east but Israel. http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/israel/nuke/[^] And he has made noises about violating Iranian airspace to bomb nuclear reactor sites. http://www.counterpunch.org/frank06032005.html[^] I am not in any way advocating nuclear exchange in the middle east - but that is not what this is about. Rhetoric aside - there is just no way that this would happen because MAD applies just as much in the middle east as anywhere else.
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It's sprinkled everywhere in the OT. I wish I could give you the verses, but I haven't memorized the numbers, and it was a couple of months ago I read it. Perhaps someone in the audience could find them? Basically, they all say that the only good gentiles are those who are either dead or serve the jews as slaves more or less. Heck, even marrying a non-gentile should be punished by death/exile (depending on which verse you read). -- Pictures[^] from my Japan trip.
I'd like to see some references, if you can find the time. I don't remember that, and I was raised by Christian fanatics.:confused: "...a photo album is like Life, but flat and stuck to pages." - Shog9
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Chris Losinger wrote:
are they Islamic
Is that like Balsamic? It's yummy, whatever it is, on fish and chips. "...a photo album is like Life, but flat and stuck to pages." - Shog9
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coz no other country is as "bastard state" like Israel?;) and the other thing that lots of times israel threatened to attack on iran or destroy its nuclear plant,when wold didnt react at that time,why are they whining now? the iranian president just that israel is an illegal state which should be wiped off,whats wrong in it?israel is an illegal state no doubt about it,was formed by comming up with lame interpetation of Bible for sake of their own intrest MyBlogs http://weblogs.com.pk/kadnan
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coz no other country is as "bastard state" like Israel?;) and the other thing that lots of times israel threatened to attack on iran or destroy its nuclear plant,when wold didnt react at that time,why are they whining now? the iranian president just that israel is an illegal state which should be wiped off,whats wrong in it?israel is an illegal state no doubt about it,was formed by comming up with lame interpetation of Bible for sake of their own intrest MyBlogs http://weblogs.com.pk/kadnan
Legality is a questionable argument. Sure, it was carved out of Jordan. Was the Jordanian government paid for the land? Did that money go to the people? Or did it stay in the pockets of the rulers? But, the jews have bought about many improvements to the land they now inhabit. And, the arabs living there are better off for having the jews, funded by the US, develope the country. It comes down to age old hatred, wallow in it, and you WILL turn your world to shit. Put past greivances aside, and you can have a decent life. We did it, look at europe, protestant - catholic, the wars of religion. We fucked ourselves up over religion for centuries, and now it is all finished except for one small corner, northern ireland, and that is showing signs of finally improving. So put the hatred away, put religion on the back burner, let inteligence prosper. Nunc est bibendum
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Chris Losinger wrote:
are they Islamic
Is that like Balsamic? It's yummy, whatever it is, on fish and chips. "...a photo album is like Life, but flat and stuck to pages." - Shog9
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Maybe he isn't as impolitic as the Iranian president, but I very much doubt that he has mellowed. He is still committed to the hypocritical stance that no one can have nuclear weapons in the middle east but Israel. http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/israel/nuke/[^] And he has made noises about violating Iranian airspace to bomb nuclear reactor sites. http://www.counterpunch.org/frank06032005.html[^] I am not in any way advocating nuclear exchange in the middle east - but that is not what this is about. Rhetoric aside - there is just no way that this would happen because MAD applies just as much in the middle east as anywhere else.
Wouldn't it be a treat if Israel 'tested' one of her nuclear weapons over Tehran. That would solve a few problems and save the Yanks from having to go in. Do not delude yourself that Iran cares about MAD. Lunatics like that do not think in a sane fashion: they will do whatever it takes to achieve their (fanatical) goals, regardless of the consequences which they may well delude themselves into believing are far more acceptable than not carrying out their threats. And if you believe, for a moment, that his remarks were isolated or entirely personal think about the context. The annual diatribe against zionism (for which read Israel). This happens on an annual basis and they trot out the same old rhetoric each and every time which amounts to a belief that Israel has no right to exist. Which brings me back to a strike before your enemy does policy. Works for me.