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  • G Gary Thom

    Jeffry J. Brickley wrote: landscapes? Sunsets? Night shots? Indoor? people (indoor or outdoor)? action? Hmm. All of the above. I currently have the Nikon Coolpix 5700, the most annoying things are 1. startup speed, capturing that expression on my daughters face is impossible when it takes 2.5 seconds to power up. 2. Low light autofocus, is spends far to long hunting (and often failing), in low light (i.e. couple of 60W bulbs in the apartment).

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    Gary Thom wrote:

    I currently have the Nikon Coolpix 5700, the most annoying things are 1. startup speed, capturing that expression on my daughters face is impossible when it takes 2.5 seconds to power up. 2. Low light autofocus, is spends far to long hunting (and often failing), in low light (i.e. couple of 60W bulbs in the apartment).

    Do you intend to learn the finer points of SLR photography, or will you primarily use it in point-n-shoot mode? My 5400 is sitting on the shelf to my left. I decided that I no longer wanted just a poin-n-shoot camera, that although it had been a decade since I used an SLR, and then only briefly, that I wanted to learn. I now almost never use the point-n-shoot switch on the camera, and often don't use the scene buttons (portrait, landscape, action is the one I will use), in order to force me to learn how to adapt and learn. So... do you intend to use the manual functions to setup the lens aperature and shutter speed? If you are taking pictures of your daughter, of any person. I think you definately need the depth of field information and greater control. That's my recent playground and I am still working on it. Give me time and I can think it through, but with people I had a few problems (thus the dancer pointing at me has her finger out of focus). These shots have to come second nature, and I am still working on it. I still think you would like the D70s better [edit: than the D50]. If the choice has to be the D50 or the Canon 350D, go with the Canon hands down. _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) -- modified at 11:40 Friday 11th November, 2005

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      Gary Thom wrote:

      I currently have the Nikon Coolpix 5700, the most annoying things are 1. startup speed, capturing that expression on my daughters face is impossible when it takes 2.5 seconds to power up. 2. Low light autofocus, is spends far to long hunting (and often failing), in low light (i.e. couple of 60W bulbs in the apartment).

      Do you intend to learn the finer points of SLR photography, or will you primarily use it in point-n-shoot mode? My 5400 is sitting on the shelf to my left. I decided that I no longer wanted just a poin-n-shoot camera, that although it had been a decade since I used an SLR, and then only briefly, that I wanted to learn. I now almost never use the point-n-shoot switch on the camera, and often don't use the scene buttons (portrait, landscape, action is the one I will use), in order to force me to learn how to adapt and learn. So... do you intend to use the manual functions to setup the lens aperature and shutter speed? If you are taking pictures of your daughter, of any person. I think you definately need the depth of field information and greater control. That's my recent playground and I am still working on it. Give me time and I can think it through, but with people I had a few problems (thus the dancer pointing at me has her finger out of focus). These shots have to come second nature, and I am still working on it. I still think you would like the D70s better [edit: than the D50]. If the choice has to be the D50 or the Canon 350D, go with the Canon hands down. _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) -- modified at 11:40 Friday 11th November, 2005

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      I've not used the auto setting on the camera for about a year, maybe more. I tend to use it in apeture priority (to get the depth of field I want), keeping a close eye on the shutter speed of course. The only scene selectors are when I use the macro or landscape settings, otherwise I do everything manually. Jeffry J. Brickley wrote: If the choice has to be the D50 or the Canon 350D, go with the Canon hands down. Why? OK, I know the 350D has higher resolution, but if memory serves it doesn't have spot metering, it's small and a bit light in the hand (I need to go compare them side by side in my hands). I had sort of gone off the D70s idea, but maybe I should have another look at it. :) Thanks for the input.

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      • P Paul Watson

        Oh that D200 is a beauty. If I was not a Canon man I'd be all over it. I wrote a short introduction[^] on it. I spent a day thinking about selling my Canon lenses and getting into Nikon thanks to that D200. As for D50 vs. 350D I'd go for the 350D. If it were the D70 vs. the 350D then it would be a tougher call. But I recommend you go and man handle the 350D before you buy it. I find it too small to be really comfortable to use. regards, Paul Watson Ireland Colib and ilikecameras. K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN! -- modified at 9:41 Friday 11th November, 2005

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        What is it that everyone raves about with the D200? I can understand people want the sealed body, but other than that it's not better than the 20D IMO. And... Nikons high-ISO levels are not exactly good, there are no reason to believe they are comparable to Canons, but of course we will know much more about that when the camera actually is released for sale ;) Well, I'm not switching to Nikon whatever they comes out with, I have way too much invested in Canon glass (like the 400 f/2.8 :-D ) - Anders

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          What is it that everyone raves about with the D200? I can understand people want the sealed body, but other than that it's not better than the 20D IMO. And... Nikons high-ISO levels are not exactly good, there are no reason to believe they are comparable to Canons, but of course we will know much more about that when the camera actually is released for sale ;) Well, I'm not switching to Nikon whatever they comes out with, I have way too much invested in Canon glass (like the 400 f/2.8 :-D ) - Anders

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          To me it is so great for being so rounded. Nothing stands out in the camera because everything in it is of good quality and well balanced. For instance the 5D is an awesome image maker but the body is not on the same level. My take on the D200[^]. But yeah. Having Canon glass and Canon noise-quality does also keep me in the Canon camp. regards, Paul Watson Ireland Colib and ilikecameras. K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!

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            To me it is so great for being so rounded. Nothing stands out in the camera because everything in it is of good quality and well balanced. For instance the 5D is an awesome image maker but the body is not on the same level. My take on the D200[^]. But yeah. Having Canon glass and Canon noise-quality does also keep me in the Canon camp. regards, Paul Watson Ireland Colib and ilikecameras. K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!

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            Paul Watson wrote:

            My take on the D200[^].

            Yeah, I read that, nice post :) I have no doubt that the D200 is a great camera, but what makes me wonder is all those people that want to switch from Canon to Nikon ;) All new Nikon and Canon DSLR are great cameras, and sometimes Nikon have a slight edge over Canon and sometimes the other way around. (A bit OT: It also depends what you do with your camera, nothing beats the 1DMkII for sport photography) - Anders

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              Paul Watson wrote:

              My take on the D200[^].

              Yeah, I read that, nice post :) I have no doubt that the D200 is a great camera, but what makes me wonder is all those people that want to switch from Canon to Nikon ;) All new Nikon and Canon DSLR are great cameras, and sometimes Nikon have a slight edge over Canon and sometimes the other way around. (A bit OT: It also depends what you do with your camera, nothing beats the 1DMkII for sport photography) - Anders

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              Anders Molin wrote:

              All new Nikon and Canon DSLR are great cameras, and sometimes Nikon have a slight edge over Canon and sometimes the other way around.

              Oh completely, well said and quite right. Canon vs. Nikon vs. my dad is better than your dad. Nothing in it. And I'll just forget you have a 1D MkII. One day :) regards, Paul Watson Ireland Colib and ilikecameras. K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!

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                Anders Molin wrote:

                All new Nikon and Canon DSLR are great cameras, and sometimes Nikon have a slight edge over Canon and sometimes the other way around.

                Oh completely, well said and quite right. Canon vs. Nikon vs. my dad is better than your dad. Nothing in it. And I'll just forget you have a 1D MkII. One day :) regards, Paul Watson Ireland Colib and ilikecameras. K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!

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                Paul Watson wrote:

                And I'll just forget you have a 1D MkII.

                So now is the wrong time to tell I have 2 of them? ;) - Anders

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                  Paul Watson wrote:

                  And I'll just forget you have a 1D MkII.

                  So now is the wrong time to tell I have 2 of them? ;) - Anders

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                  I can get a flight to your city this weekend, I'll pick your spare 1D MkII up then... ;) regards, Paul Watson Ireland Colib and ilikecameras. K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!

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                    I can get a flight to your city this weekend, I'll pick your spare 1D MkII up then... ;) regards, Paul Watson Ireland Colib and ilikecameras. K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!

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                    I'll buy you a beer and we could probably have some fun and go on a phototrip somewhere ;) But, you would have to kill me to get it with you to ireland :) - Anders

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                    • G Gary Thom

                      I've not used the auto setting on the camera for about a year, maybe more. I tend to use it in apeture priority (to get the depth of field I want), keeping a close eye on the shutter speed of course. The only scene selectors are when I use the macro or landscape settings, otherwise I do everything manually. Jeffry J. Brickley wrote: If the choice has to be the D50 or the Canon 350D, go with the Canon hands down. Why? OK, I know the 350D has higher resolution, but if memory serves it doesn't have spot metering, it's small and a bit light in the hand (I need to go compare them side by side in my hands). I had sort of gone off the D70s idea, but maybe I should have another look at it. :) Thanks for the input.

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                      Gary Thom wrote:

                      Why? OK, I know the 350D has higher resolution, but if memory serves it doesn't have spot metering, it's small and a bit light in the hand (I need to go compare them side by side in my hands).

                      each of them has pros and cons... and depending on what you want out of the camera, it weighs one way or another. I know someone with the 350D at work, I have the D70. I have learned to bypass the focus bug of the D70 (one of the reasons for the D70S), so in the end it achieved my goals. I'll fight another decision for a camera in 2-3 years. All in all both are good cameras, I happen to like the weight and feel of the D70 so I consider it an advantage. the guy who bought the Canon believes the lighter heft of the Canon is an advantage. So a lot of it comes down to feel for what you want. The cannon's noise profile is less (thus better). Usually the choice between Canon and Nikon comes down to what your experience is, which is comfortable for you, and if you have any lenses you have already made a commitment. If you are buying lenses then you are making another commitment (so probably stickign to that line). _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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