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You are correct. I feel that way toward muslims because their bible tells them to kill people of other religions. Here are a few verses from the Koran. Sura 9:5
So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them; surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.
Sura 9:123
O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness; and know that Allah is with those who guard (against evil).
Sura 4:101
When you travel, during war, you commit no error by shortening your Contact Prayers (Salat), if you fear that the disbelievers may attack you. Surely, the disbelievers are your ardent enemies.
This[^] Is an excellent article about the Koran.
Pumk1nh3ad illustrates that Intelligent Design oft goes awry. - Ed Gadziemski You did'nt get it. I over estimated you. - Josh Gray
Pumk1nh3ad wrote:
I feel that way toward muslims because their bible tells them to kill people of other religions.
Well, apparently. I'm a Christian, FWIW, but I can find Old Testament verses that taken in isolation would infer exactly what these verses seem to imply. However, I had the chance to talk to a Muslim recently about his beliefs, and I would have to say it's the most untenable religion I've ever heard of. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++
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I understand you all are saying. It just seems weird that there is an "American Nazi Party", considering what Nazi Germany did to the Jews during WWII.
Pumk1nh3ad illustrates that Intelligent Design oft goes awry. - Ed Gadziemski You did'nt get it. I over estimated you. - Josh Gray
And they bombed London, killing thousands, they killed 3 million Polacks, the total fatalities for the war was over 50 million. Plus don't forget the Japanese - luckily for us all their websites are indefierable but they might start up a Tojo fan club, and we would have to through them all in jail for that.
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Pumk1nh3ad wrote:
I feel that way toward muslims because their bible tells them to kill people of other religions.
Well, apparently. I'm a Christian, FWIW, but I can find Old Testament verses that taken in isolation would infer exactly what these verses seem to imply. However, I had the chance to talk to a Muslim recently about his beliefs, and I would have to say it's the most untenable religion I've ever heard of. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++
Christian Graus wrote:
Well, apparently. I'm a Christian, FWIW, but I can find Old Testament verses that taken in isolation would infer exactly what these verses seem to imply.
Well, yes, like when the Israelites were to kill the Cannanites when they entered the promised land. But, you don't see Christians strapping on bombs and blowing up people in the name of God.
Pumk1nh3ad illustrates that Intelligent Design oft goes awry. - Ed Gadziemski You did'nt get it. I over estimated you. - Josh Gray
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Pumk1nh3ad wrote:
I feel that way toward muslims because their bible tells them to kill people of other religions.
Well, apparently. I'm a Christian, FWIW, but I can find Old Testament verses that taken in isolation would infer exactly what these verses seem to imply. However, I had the chance to talk to a Muslim recently about his beliefs, and I would have to say it's the most untenable religion I've ever heard of. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++
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Pumk1nh3ad wrote:
But, you don't see Christians strapping on bombs and blowing up people in the name of God.
No, not often. I'd suggest the core difference is that we're talking about people who often don't have the standard of living that we do, to put it politely, which makes them more succeptable to this sort of thing. I'm not suggesting anything other than making those sort of generalisations probably does not help anyone. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++
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It is not what I have been taught. I am actually homeschooled, and have gotten my views on my own. The way I see muslims is they are not a religion of peace, and the terrorists are the ones who truly follow the teachings of Mohammad. The peaceful muslims are the more liberal ones who don't follow Mohammad's teachings. The Koran clearly tells you to kill unbelievers. I know you will want me to back that up, so Here[^] is a site where the verses I am talking about are shown. I view Islam as a militant religion. That may not be the political correct multicultural kind of view that alot of people have, but it is what I believe.
Pumk1nh3ad illustrates that Intelligent Design oft goes awry. - Ed Gadziemski You did'nt get it. I over estimated you. - Josh Gray
Pumk1nh3ad wrote:
It is not what I have been taught. I am actually homeschooled
Does home schooling not involve teaching? :)
Pumk1nh3ad wrote:
and have gotten my views on my own.
So what are your views based on? Do you know any Muslim people or is it just what you get from TV? I appreciate you giving me the link but it is not a great example for your point. The reason being that it is obviously written by a Muslim hater. There is nothing there to back up what is said. I am not familiar with the Koran so there is no way for me to know if that is true or not. An example written by a Muslim would be much better for your argument. Your link even gives multiple translations of the same passages with very ambiguous meanings. My question was 'what is a Muslim'. I guess you are saying that a Muslim is someone who follows all the teachings of Muhammad and therefore wants to kill nonbelievers and therefore is a terrorist. You yourself have said that you would be happy if all terrorists were killed. Therefore you want all (real) Muslims killed. You say that Islam is not a religion of peace. Do you really think Christianity is? Have you seen the movie 'Saved'?
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Christian Graus wrote:
Well, apparently. I'm a Christian, FWIW, but I can find Old Testament verses that taken in isolation would infer exactly what these verses seem to imply.
Well, yes, like when the Israelites were to kill the Cannanites when they entered the promised land. But, you don't see Christians strapping on bombs and blowing up people in the name of God.
Pumk1nh3ad illustrates that Intelligent Design oft goes awry. - Ed Gadziemski You did'nt get it. I over estimated you. - Josh Gray
Pumk1nh3ad wrote:
Christians strapping on bombs and blowing up people in the name of God.
Nope, just blowing up places in Ireland a while back, shooting a few people here and there in the USA, or raping women on native american land. Blowing up a building in Oklahoma, a doctors office here or or there, maybe a black church or three here or or there. Providing an exception for what you choose NOT to see, does not make it go away. Crime exists everywhere and in every group. You can choose to see it, or ignore it. Most people choose to ignore it as long is it could anyway relate to themselves. There is that fear, if joe normal down the street decided to shoot up a school, perhaps someone else I know would. So we forget. We forget the violence that makes news every single day every single state and pick any group other than ourselves to blame it on. Now you truly understand that group you pointed out. Rather than look at problems generally, they pick a group of their own and exempt them. "we're all innocent, they are all guilty" and blame all the problems of the world on that group. It's an easy way out, it feels great to relax and make believe that if we just kill everyone in that "other" group all the problems will go away. Except it has been tried a hundred or more times in a 10,000 years and it never has made the problems go away. But we still try it anyway. _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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Pumk1nh3ad wrote:
It is not what I have been taught. I am actually homeschooled
Does home schooling not involve teaching? :)
Pumk1nh3ad wrote:
and have gotten my views on my own.
So what are your views based on? Do you know any Muslim people or is it just what you get from TV? I appreciate you giving me the link but it is not a great example for your point. The reason being that it is obviously written by a Muslim hater. There is nothing there to back up what is said. I am not familiar with the Koran so there is no way for me to know if that is true or not. An example written by a Muslim would be much better for your argument. Your link even gives multiple translations of the same passages with very ambiguous meanings. My question was 'what is a Muslim'. I guess you are saying that a Muslim is someone who follows all the teachings of Muhammad and therefore wants to kill nonbelievers and therefore is a terrorist. You yourself have said that you would be happy if all terrorists were killed. Therefore you want all (real) Muslims killed. You say that Islam is not a religion of peace. Do you really think Christianity is? Have you seen the movie 'Saved'?
Josh Gray wrote:
Does home schooling not involve teaching?
Well, not about politics.
Josh Gray wrote:
So what are your views based on? Do you know any Muslim people or is it just what you get from TV?
I don't really watch TV. I read the news, and read on the internet.
Josh Gray wrote:
I appreciate you giving me the link but it is not a great example for your point. The reason being that it is obviously written by a Muslim hater. There is nothing there to back up what is said. I am not familiar with the Koran so there is no way for me to know if that is true or not. An example written by a Muslim would be much better for your argument. Your link even gives multiple translations of the same passages with very ambiguous meanings.
You have a point about the link, but it did show some verses that I thought were very clear in telling you to kill infadels.
Josh Gray wrote:
My question was 'what is a Muslim'. I guess you are saying that a Muslim is someone who follows all the teachings of Muhammad and therefore wants to kill nonbelievers and therefore is a terrorist. You yourself have said that you would be happy if all terrorists were killed. Therefore you want all (real) Muslims killed.
I think that any terrorist, regardless of their religion should be killed. I also know that the Koran commands you to kill unbelievers, and motivates many people to be terrorists. I did not say that all muslims should be killed, just the fundamentalist terrorists who do things like fly planes into buildings, and make bombs to blow up civilians for no reason.
Josh Gray wrote:
You say that Islam is not a religion of peace. Do you really think Christianity is?
No, I don't. Peace is not always the answer. Christianity does not promote the killing of others on the basis of religion though.
Josh Gray wrote:
Have you seen the movie 'Saved'?
No
Pumk1nh3ad illustrates that Intelligent Design oft goes awry. - Ed Gadziemski You did'nt get it. I over estimated you. - Josh Gray
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Josh Gray wrote:
Does home schooling not involve teaching?
Well, not about politics.
Josh Gray wrote:
So what are your views based on? Do you know any Muslim people or is it just what you get from TV?
I don't really watch TV. I read the news, and read on the internet.
Josh Gray wrote:
I appreciate you giving me the link but it is not a great example for your point. The reason being that it is obviously written by a Muslim hater. There is nothing there to back up what is said. I am not familiar with the Koran so there is no way for me to know if that is true or not. An example written by a Muslim would be much better for your argument. Your link even gives multiple translations of the same passages with very ambiguous meanings.
You have a point about the link, but it did show some verses that I thought were very clear in telling you to kill infadels.
Josh Gray wrote:
My question was 'what is a Muslim'. I guess you are saying that a Muslim is someone who follows all the teachings of Muhammad and therefore wants to kill nonbelievers and therefore is a terrorist. You yourself have said that you would be happy if all terrorists were killed. Therefore you want all (real) Muslims killed.
I think that any terrorist, regardless of their religion should be killed. I also know that the Koran commands you to kill unbelievers, and motivates many people to be terrorists. I did not say that all muslims should be killed, just the fundamentalist terrorists who do things like fly planes into buildings, and make bombs to blow up civilians for no reason.
Josh Gray wrote:
You say that Islam is not a religion of peace. Do you really think Christianity is?
No, I don't. Peace is not always the answer. Christianity does not promote the killing of others on the basis of religion though.
Josh Gray wrote:
Have you seen the movie 'Saved'?
No
Pumk1nh3ad illustrates that Intelligent Design oft goes awry. - Ed Gadziemski You did'nt get it. I over estimated you. - Josh Gray
Pumk1nh3ad wrote:
Well, not about politics.
Why not? Is that not part of a rounded education? Why would you want to be home schooled? How will you ever get laid? Who teaches you and what do they teach?
Pumk1nh3ad wrote:
I think that any terrorist, regardless of their religion should be killed. I also know that the Koran commands you to kill unbelievers, and motivates many people to be terrorists. I did not say that all muslims should be killed, just the fundamentalist terrorists who do things like fly planes into buildings, and make bombs to blow up civilians for no reason.
Then you can understand how a poorly educated Iraqi man who's family has been killed by American soldiers would see them as terrorists and want to kill them?
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Pumk1nh3ad wrote:
Well, not about politics.
Why not? Is that not part of a rounded education? Why would you want to be home schooled? How will you ever get laid? Who teaches you and what do they teach?
Pumk1nh3ad wrote:
I think that any terrorist, regardless of their religion should be killed. I also know that the Koran commands you to kill unbelievers, and motivates many people to be terrorists. I did not say that all muslims should be killed, just the fundamentalist terrorists who do things like fly planes into buildings, and make bombs to blow up civilians for no reason.
Then you can understand how a poorly educated Iraqi man who's family has been killed by American soldiers would see them as terrorists and want to kill them?
Josh Gray wrote:
Why not? Is that not part of a rounded education? Why would you want to be home schooled? How will you ever get laid? Who teaches you and what do they teach?
I do my schoolwork on my own on the computer. You answer the questions on there, and it grades your work for you. What I meant by that was that I don't get the political slant of alot of teachers at school. I have been in public school here before, and some of the teachers did try to spread around their political beliefs.
Josh Gray wrote:
Then you can understand how a poorly educated Iraqi man who's family has been killed by American soldiers would see them as terrorists and want to kill them?
I guess I can understand that. I do think we mistaken to be occupying Iraq. By staying, we are creating a resistance movement there similar to the Viet Cong. If we do not pull out, it is possible that it will turn into another long, costly, pointless war like Vietnam, or the Russians' war in Chechnya.
Pumk1nh3ad illustrates that Intelligent Design oft goes awry. - Ed Gadziemski You did'nt get it. I over estimated you. - Josh Gray
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Josh Gray wrote:
Why not? Is that not part of a rounded education? Why would you want to be home schooled? How will you ever get laid? Who teaches you and what do they teach?
I do my schoolwork on my own on the computer. You answer the questions on there, and it grades your work for you. What I meant by that was that I don't get the political slant of alot of teachers at school. I have been in public school here before, and some of the teachers did try to spread around their political beliefs.
Josh Gray wrote:
Then you can understand how a poorly educated Iraqi man who's family has been killed by American soldiers would see them as terrorists and want to kill them?
I guess I can understand that. I do think we mistaken to be occupying Iraq. By staying, we are creating a resistance movement there similar to the Viet Cong. If we do not pull out, it is possible that it will turn into another long, costly, pointless war like Vietnam, or the Russians' war in Chechnya.
Pumk1nh3ad illustrates that Intelligent Design oft goes awry. - Ed Gadziemski You did'nt get it. I over estimated you. - Josh Gray
Pumk1nh3ad wrote:
I do my schoolwork on my own on the computer. You answer the questions on there, and it grades your work for you. What I meant by that was that I don't get the political slant of alot of teachers at school. I have been in public school here before, and some of the teachers did try to spread around their political beliefs.
Dont you miss the social part of going to school? Why did your parents choose to make you do that? Do you think it will cause problems for you in the future? For example if I was an employer and had to choose between two similar people who had just finished school and one was homed schooled I would probably pick the one who was not home schooled.
Pumk1nh3ad wrote:
I guess I can understand that. I do think we mistaken to be occupying Iraq. By staying, we are creating a resistance movement there similar to the Viet Cong. If we do not pull out, it is possible that it will turn into another long, costly, pointless war like Vietnam, or the Russians' war in Chechnya.
Well its too late now. You are in a no win situation. If you walk away people will say that the US abandoned Iraq after you bommed all their infustructure. What do you think of the majority of your fellow Americans that voted for Bush in his second term when he clearly broke the law to get his first term?
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Pumk1nh3ad wrote:
I do my schoolwork on my own on the computer. You answer the questions on there, and it grades your work for you. What I meant by that was that I don't get the political slant of alot of teachers at school. I have been in public school here before, and some of the teachers did try to spread around their political beliefs.
Dont you miss the social part of going to school? Why did your parents choose to make you do that? Do you think it will cause problems for you in the future? For example if I was an employer and had to choose between two similar people who had just finished school and one was homed schooled I would probably pick the one who was not home schooled.
Pumk1nh3ad wrote:
I guess I can understand that. I do think we mistaken to be occupying Iraq. By staying, we are creating a resistance movement there similar to the Viet Cong. If we do not pull out, it is possible that it will turn into another long, costly, pointless war like Vietnam, or the Russians' war in Chechnya.
Well its too late now. You are in a no win situation. If you walk away people will say that the US abandoned Iraq after you bommed all their infustructure. What do you think of the majority of your fellow Americans that voted for Bush in his second term when he clearly broke the law to get his first term?
Josh Gray wrote:
Dont you miss the social part of going to school? Why did your parents choose to make you do that? Do you think it will cause problems for you in the future? For example if I was an employer and had to choose between two similar people who had just finished school and one was homed schooled I would probably pick the one who was not home schooled.
I chose home schooling. My parents did not make me do it. It seems best for me because I am not a social type of person.
Josh Gray wrote:
Well its too late now. You are in a no win situation. If you walk away people will say that the US abandoned Iraq after you bommed all their infustructure.
You are right.
Josh Gray wrote:
What do you think of the majority of your fellow Americans that voted for Bush in his second term when he clearly broke the law to get his first term?
I think that they voted for him because John Kerry was an idiot. Nobody wants a president that has several different positions for each issue. But, Bush has one position, and it is bad, so it is a matter of the lesser of two evils. Perhaps Kerry would have been a better president because he would probably not do much of anything, as opposed to Bush who is busy getting us engaged in stupid pointless wars, and making more and more of the world turn against America.
Pumk1nh3ad illustrates that Inteelligent Design oft goes awry. - Ed Gadziemski You did'nt get it. I over estimated you. - Josh Gray
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Josh Gray wrote:
Dont you miss the social part of going to school? Why did your parents choose to make you do that? Do you think it will cause problems for you in the future? For example if I was an employer and had to choose between two similar people who had just finished school and one was homed schooled I would probably pick the one who was not home schooled.
I chose home schooling. My parents did not make me do it. It seems best for me because I am not a social type of person.
Josh Gray wrote:
Well its too late now. You are in a no win situation. If you walk away people will say that the US abandoned Iraq after you bommed all their infustructure.
You are right.
Josh Gray wrote:
What do you think of the majority of your fellow Americans that voted for Bush in his second term when he clearly broke the law to get his first term?
I think that they voted for him because John Kerry was an idiot. Nobody wants a president that has several different positions for each issue. But, Bush has one position, and it is bad, so it is a matter of the lesser of two evils. Perhaps Kerry would have been a better president because he would probably not do much of anything, as opposed to Bush who is busy getting us engaged in stupid pointless wars, and making more and more of the world turn against America.
Pumk1nh3ad illustrates that Inteelligent Design oft goes awry. - Ed Gadziemski You did'nt get it. I over estimated you. - Josh Gray
Pumk1nh3ad wrote:
I chose home schooling. My parents did not make me do it. It seems best for me because I am not a social type of person.
But you choose to socialise here? I was pretty unsocial at your age too but you cant hide from it forever. How will you deal with college or working with a group of people? You only get one shot at being young and school is a big part of that i think But more than anything a mixed sex school represents many oportunities for meeting girls :)
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Josh Gray wrote:
Why not? Is that not part of a rounded education? Why would you want to be home schooled? How will you ever get laid? Who teaches you and what do they teach?
I do my schoolwork on my own on the computer. You answer the questions on there, and it grades your work for you. What I meant by that was that I don't get the political slant of alot of teachers at school. I have been in public school here before, and some of the teachers did try to spread around their political beliefs.
Josh Gray wrote:
Then you can understand how a poorly educated Iraqi man who's family has been killed by American soldiers would see them as terrorists and want to kill them?
I guess I can understand that. I do think we mistaken to be occupying Iraq. By staying, we are creating a resistance movement there similar to the Viet Cong. If we do not pull out, it is possible that it will turn into another long, costly, pointless war like Vietnam, or the Russians' war in Chechnya.
Pumk1nh3ad illustrates that Intelligent Design oft goes awry. - Ed Gadziemski You did'nt get it. I over estimated you. - Josh Gray
Pumk1nh3ad wrote:
What I meant by that was that I don't get the political slant of alot of teachers at school. I have been in public school here before, and some of the teachers did try to spread around their political beliefs.
It doesn't matter if it is public, private, or home school you still get exposed to the political beliefs of the teacher. In anything in life you choose to reject (go your own way), rebel (go the opposite way), or accept (go the way of your example). I chose to reject my family's ways, not necessarily rebel... it took a long way to find my own path. My brother chose to rebel in some ways, and accept others. He chose the way of abuse and violence and excusal for it. Luckily for his children they are all in Thailand and he only visits a couple of months a year. He accepted many of hte predjudices and perhaps goes to more extreme. To him any race that was or can be defeated in war should be destroyed, from native americans, to African Americans, to Japanese and Chinese Americans to all of the middle east. If they failed to stand up to a war machine anywhere, they don't deserve to live. so you grow up around predjudices and learn to echo them, or even echo them to the extreme, or move away from them in some way. It doesn't matter if it is public school or home-school. I actually appreciated school, even occasionally getting beat-up at school was infinitely better than home.
Pumk1nh3ad wrote:
By staying, we are creating a resistance movement there similar to the Viet Cong. If we do not pull out, it is possible that it will turn into another long, costly, pointless war like Vietnam, or the Russians' war in Chechnya.
It will. and if we do pull out it will erupt into civil war. Nice choices that. At this point it doesn't matter what we do, it will most likely go bad. _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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It sounds like Tony Blair and Bush have alot in common. Only, I think Tony Blair is more intelligent. Once, Bush was asked what him and Blair had in common, and he replied "We both use colgate toothpaste." For a list of some other stupid things bush has said, go here: http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/blbushisms.htm
Pumk1nh3ad illustrates that Intelligent Design oft goes awry. - Ed Gadziemski You did'nt get it. I over estimated you. - Josh Gray
Pumk1nh3ad wrote:
It sounds like Tony Blair and Bush have alot in common. Only, I think Tony Blair is more intelligent.
One would think that if he was so intelligent he wouldn't need to be the poodle of Bush. What ever happens in the US Administration we get a few months later.
My: Blog | Photos "Man who stand on hill with mouth open will wait long time for roast duck to drop in." -- Confucious
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You are correct. I feel that way toward muslims because their bible tells them to kill people of other religions. Here are a few verses from the Koran. Sura 9:5
So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them; surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.
Sura 9:123
O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness; and know that Allah is with those who guard (against evil).
Sura 4:101
When you travel, during war, you commit no error by shortening your Contact Prayers (Salat), if you fear that the disbelievers may attack you. Surely, the disbelievers are your ardent enemies.
This[^] Is an excellent article about the Koran.
Pumk1nh3ad illustrates that Intelligent Design oft goes awry. - Ed Gadziemski You did'nt get it. I over estimated you. - Josh Gray
:yawn: The "kill all enemies" crap is in all religions originating from the middle east. Yes, including Judaism and Christianity. (Although, according to Christians, Jesus did try his best to talk some sense into people. In my opinion, it was a lost cause) --
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Josh Gray wrote:
Why not? Is that not part of a rounded education? Why would you want to be home schooled? How will you ever get laid? Who teaches you and what do they teach?
I do my schoolwork on my own on the computer. You answer the questions on there, and it grades your work for you. What I meant by that was that I don't get the political slant of alot of teachers at school. I have been in public school here before, and some of the teachers did try to spread around their political beliefs.
Josh Gray wrote:
Then you can understand how a poorly educated Iraqi man who's family has been killed by American soldiers would see them as terrorists and want to kill them?
I guess I can understand that. I do think we mistaken to be occupying Iraq. By staying, we are creating a resistance movement there similar to the Viet Cong. If we do not pull out, it is possible that it will turn into another long, costly, pointless war like Vietnam, or the Russians' war in Chechnya.
Pumk1nh3ad illustrates that Intelligent Design oft goes awry. - Ed Gadziemski You did'nt get it. I over estimated you. - Josh Gray
Pumk1nh3ad wrote:
I have been in public school here before, and some of the teachers did try to spread around their political beliefs.
I can sympathise with that. I had an English teacher at school who handed out an artlcle called "In the red corner... in the blue corner..." which was about the political parties during the run up to a general election squaring up to each other like boxers during a boxing match. Anyway, she asked a very loaded question - one which I didn't see coming and was stupid enough to answer. She was a vile enough teacher and she loved anyone to get on the wrong side of her to taking out her vengance on the whole class. She asked "Which party gives more freedom?" Now, it really depends on your political leanings how you answer that. I answered the "Conservative Party" because they are business friendly, set up a right-to-buy scheme for people living in government housing so they could be home owners (which is why the UK now has the highest rate of home ownership in Europe) and try to keep taxes as low as possible. In contract, the "Labour Party" would restrict businesses, impose higher rates of tax, and generally nanny everyone. She didn't agree. And it was hell for the rest of the lesson.
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Josh Gray wrote:
Dont you miss the social part of going to school? Why did your parents choose to make you do that? Do you think it will cause problems for you in the future? For example if I was an employer and had to choose between two similar people who had just finished school and one was homed schooled I would probably pick the one who was not home schooled.
I chose home schooling. My parents did not make me do it. It seems best for me because I am not a social type of person.
Josh Gray wrote:
Well its too late now. You are in a no win situation. If you walk away people will say that the US abandoned Iraq after you bommed all their infustructure.
You are right.
Josh Gray wrote:
What do you think of the majority of your fellow Americans that voted for Bush in his second term when he clearly broke the law to get his first term?
I think that they voted for him because John Kerry was an idiot. Nobody wants a president that has several different positions for each issue. But, Bush has one position, and it is bad, so it is a matter of the lesser of two evils. Perhaps Kerry would have been a better president because he would probably not do much of anything, as opposed to Bush who is busy getting us engaged in stupid pointless wars, and making more and more of the world turn against America.
Pumk1nh3ad illustrates that Inteelligent Design oft goes awry. - Ed Gadziemski You did'nt get it. I over estimated you. - Josh Gray
Pumk1nh3ad wrote:
I think that they voted for him because John Kerry was an idiot. Nobody wants a president that has several different positions for each issue. But, Bush has one position, and it is bad, so it is a matter of the lesser of two evils.
Sounds more like "Better the devil you know, than the devil you don't know"
My: Blog | Photos "Man who stand on hill with mouth open will wait long time for roast duck to drop in." -- Confucious
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No. I disagree with the theory that you can effectively deal with primitivism and hate by limiting free speech! There are other ways to do it. For those who think European free speech laws are something civilized and that they are only used in clean cases, here's a controversial usage of "hate speech" laws from Sweden. 2004-JUN: Sweden: Pentecostal pastor convicted of hate speech: Sweden passed a constitutional amendment in 2002 which included sexual orientation in a list of groups protected from "unfavorable speech." The law protects heterosexuals, bisexuals and homosexuals equally. Sometime in 2003, Pastor Ake Green delivered a sermon at his Pentecostal church in Borgholk, Sweden. He allegedly described homosexuality as "abnormal, a horrible cancerous tumor in the body of society." He described them as "perverts, whose sexual drive the Devil has used as his strongest weapon against God." He was charged with inciting hatred against a group of people on the basis of their sexual orientation. Green was found guilty and sentenced to one month in prison. Public prosecutor Kjell Yngvesson is reported as saying: "One may have whatever religion one wishes, but [the sermon] is an attack on all fronts against homosexuals. Collecting Bible [verses] on this topic as he does makes this hate speech." Christianity Today magazine reported: "In his defense, the pastor said he merely wanted to make clear the biblical view on homosexuality, not to express disrespect." Green's lawyer said that the law and conviction violated the pastor's religious freedom. Soren Andersson, president of a Swedish federation for lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender rights (RFSL), said that religious freedom never justifies offending people. He said: "Therefore, I cannot regard the sentence as an act of interference with freedom of religion." Regards, Tomaž
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Pumk1nh3ad wrote:
Christians strapping on bombs and blowing up people in the name of God.
Nope, just blowing up places in Ireland a while back, shooting a few people here and there in the USA, or raping women on native american land. Blowing up a building in Oklahoma, a doctors office here or or there, maybe a black church or three here or or there. Providing an exception for what you choose NOT to see, does not make it go away. Crime exists everywhere and in every group. You can choose to see it, or ignore it. Most people choose to ignore it as long is it could anyway relate to themselves. There is that fear, if joe normal down the street decided to shoot up a school, perhaps someone else I know would. So we forget. We forget the violence that makes news every single day every single state and pick any group other than ourselves to blame it on. Now you truly understand that group you pointed out. Rather than look at problems generally, they pick a group of their own and exempt them. "we're all innocent, they are all guilty" and blame all the problems of the world on that group. It's an easy way out, it feels great to relax and make believe that if we just kill everyone in that "other" group all the problems will go away. Except it has been tried a hundred or more times in a 10,000 years and it never has made the problems go away. But we still try it anyway. _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
Jeffry J. Brickley wrote:
Crime exists everywhere and in every group. You can choose to see it, or ignore it. Most people choose to ignore it as long is it could anyway relate to themselves.
How the hell can people continue to make such stupid comments? If you will pull your head out of your fat ass for long enough to actually read a few newspapers you will discover that every single instance you mentioned was punished to the full extent of the law. How does that represent ignoring anything? In our society 'Joe Normal" does'nt ignore anything, he demands fanatics be punished, he doesn't make heroes out of them. These continueing attempts to draw moral equivalency between western society and Islam is growing increasingly irksome. You, and your ilk, hate your own society for not being the Marxist utopia you wish it to be, so you try to establish false parallels between our society and others where no such parallels exist. Either that or you are a complete frigging idiot. "Patriotism is the first refuge of a patriot."