I became father again!
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Stan Shannon wrote:
Reply 1: He's the one that posted the happy tidings in the soap box.
OK. Fair enough on that one. Perhaps the lounge would have been a better place to post. Still. Your views on Christianity make me sick. This world will certainly be fucked with attitudes like yours and probably deserves to be. Jon
jonathan15 wrote:
views on Christianity
And precisely what views would that be? "Patriotism is the first refuge of a patriot."
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Yesterday I became father again. Now I have two kids, Mohammad (4 years) and Fatima (1 day)! I'm very happy and excited that Allah sent me this gift. A. Riazi
Congratulations to you both! :rose: :rose: :rose: Anna :rose: Riverblade Ltd - Software Consultancy Services Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work.
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jonathan15 wrote:
views on Christianity
And precisely what views would that be? "Patriotism is the first refuge of a patriot."
Reply 2: His religion is a joke and deserves to be insulted. Reply 3: Multiculturalism (ie "Tolerance for all beliefs that are not Christian") also deserves to be insulted and at every possible opportunity. I am sorry. I thought your views are pretty clear. Perhaps I am the one in the wrong. I was always taught to have respect for others even in their religion are different. My Mother would certainly consider herself to be a Christian as would the rest of her side of the family. Although I gave up on much of this and see no point in debating it, my tolerance and respect for others is probably the most valuable Christian lesson I learnt from her. People are people. Children are a blessing for their parents and all those who are fortunate to take pleasure from their company whether they are Christian, Muslim, Jewish or whatever. I just can’t seem to qualify your statements against any of my memories of church or what I consider to be right. In fact I doubt even that my parish priest could understand your standpoint. Jon
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legalAlien wrote:
It was meant to be funny, wasn't it?
I was actually shooting for irony. In the sense that you can insult christians all the live long day, but just say something rude to a Muslim and see what you get. It is always so enligtening. "Patriotism is the first refuge of a patriot."
Actually, so was I, kinda. My comment was what passes for sarcasm - a close cousin to irony. Still, I think you were a little heavy handed. In any case, who (tell the truth now) really gives a fuck that he had another kid, regardless of what you think he'll encourage him to do later in life.
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I can only spare you 2 words and the second one is off. :laugh:
turning the other cheek just gets you slapped twice
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Wonderful! Now you have a spare just in case this Allah guy needs an extra suicide bomber to blow up some infidels. "Patriotism is the first refuge of a patriot."
For fuck's sake. :mad: Anna :rose: Riverblade Ltd - Software Consultancy Services Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work.
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Reply 2: His religion is a joke and deserves to be insulted. Reply 3: Multiculturalism (ie "Tolerance for all beliefs that are not Christian") also deserves to be insulted and at every possible opportunity. I am sorry. I thought your views are pretty clear. Perhaps I am the one in the wrong. I was always taught to have respect for others even in their religion are different. My Mother would certainly consider herself to be a Christian as would the rest of her side of the family. Although I gave up on much of this and see no point in debating it, my tolerance and respect for others is probably the most valuable Christian lesson I learnt from her. People are people. Children are a blessing for their parents and all those who are fortunate to take pleasure from their company whether they are Christian, Muslim, Jewish or whatever. I just can’t seem to qualify your statements against any of my memories of church or what I consider to be right. In fact I doubt even that my parish priest could understand your standpoint. Jon
I think that not holding Muslims to precisely the same standards that I hold Christians would be the act of a bigot. I never pass up an opportunity to remind Muslims of the violence that is being done in the name of their religion. I would do precisely the same for any Chrisitan that acted in the same way. But, we do not live in a world that is even in the most remote sense threatened by Christians or their beliefs. We do live in a world where secularism is bulldozing down every last vestage of western civilization and rebuilding everything in its own image. And we live in a world where thousands are murdered in the name of Islam. I simply believe in pointing those facts out at every opportunity. And have no fucking apology to make for it. My critics can bite me. "Patriotism is the first refuge of a patriot."
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For fuck's sake. :mad: Anna :rose: Riverblade Ltd - Software Consultancy Services Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work.
How would you like to change places with poor little Fatima? (For fuck's sake) "Patriotism is the first refuge of a patriot."
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I think that not holding Muslims to precisely the same standards that I hold Christians would be the act of a bigot. I never pass up an opportunity to remind Muslims of the violence that is being done in the name of their religion. I would do precisely the same for any Chrisitan that acted in the same way. But, we do not live in a world that is even in the most remote sense threatened by Christians or their beliefs. We do live in a world where secularism is bulldozing down every last vestage of western civilization and rebuilding everything in its own image. And we live in a world where thousands are murdered in the name of Islam. I simply believe in pointing those facts out at every opportunity. And have no fucking apology to make for it. My critics can bite me. "Patriotism is the first refuge of a patriot."
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Yesterday I became father again. Now I have two kids, Mohammad (4 years) and Fatima (1 day)! I'm very happy and excited that Allah sent me this gift. A. Riazi
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I can only spare you 2 words and the second one is off. :laugh:
turning the other cheek just gets you slapped twice
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Yesterday I became father again. Now I have two kids, Mohammad (4 years) and Fatima (1 day)! I'm very happy and excited that Allah sent me this gift. A. Riazi
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Yesterday I became father again. Now I have two kids, Mohammad (4 years) and Fatima (1 day)! I'm very happy and excited that Allah sent me this gift. A. Riazi
> I'm very happy and excited that Allah sent me this gift. I don't want to stir up some marital problems here, but if you didn't impregnate your wife, it's not very likely Allah did it. :-D [edit]:doh: Forgot to congratulate! Congratulations![/edit] -- Pictures[^] from my Japan trip. -- modified at 11:54 Wednesday 23rd November, 2005
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I think that not holding Muslims to precisely the same standards that I hold Christians would be the act of a bigot. I never pass up an opportunity to remind Muslims of the violence that is being done in the name of their religion. I would do precisely the same for any Chrisitan that acted in the same way. But, we do not live in a world that is even in the most remote sense threatened by Christians or their beliefs. We do live in a world where secularism is bulldozing down every last vestage of western civilization and rebuilding everything in its own image. And we live in a world where thousands are murdered in the name of Islam. I simply believe in pointing those facts out at every opportunity. And have no fucking apology to make for it. My critics can bite me. "Patriotism is the first refuge of a patriot."
Stan Shannon wrote:
I never pass up an opportunity to remind Muslims of the violence that is being done in the name of their religion.
We just do it for economics. Or is it OK to send a country back to the dark ages just to protect the $. We have fucked Iraq (Or is Iraq just full of the murdering Islamic extreamists you would like to blame for everything) and all the good people who live there just so GW could get his rocks off. Oh at least they have Democracy now so thats OK. Providing the government there continues to do what the US want.
Stan Shannon wrote:
But, we do not live in a world that is even in the most remote sense threatened by Christians or their beliefs.
Really. If there are many more Christians out there who think and talk like you i would say the world is most definately threatened. Jon -- modified at 11:59 Wednesday 23rd November, 2005
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Have you any proof Mr Riazi act violently because of his religion or do you consider any muslim responsible for the actions of some muslim fanatics?
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K(arl) wrote:
Have you any proof Mr Riazi act violently because of his religion or do you consider any muslim responsible for the actions of some muslim fanatics?
The fact that he invokes the name of Allah is all the proof that I need. He voluntarily associates himself with a religion that is used as a pretext for murder and bloodshed all over this planet, with absolutely no attempt to disassociated himself from those who do that. None of us, including you (hell,especially you) would let a Christian get away with that. I hold him responsible for what others do in the name of the religion he claims membership in, precisely as I would any Christian. I do not believe that "moderation" is ever an appropriate response to fanaticism. Anyone who remains moderate in the face of fanaticism is nothing but a coward - at best. "Patriotism is the first refuge of a patriot."
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Stan Shannon wrote:
I never pass up an opportunity to remind Muslims of the violence that is being done in the name of their religion.
We just do it for economics. Or is it OK to send a country back to the dark ages just to protect the $. We have fucked Iraq (Or is Iraq just full of the murdering Islamic extreamists you would like to blame for everything) and all the good people who live there just so GW could get his rocks off. Oh at least they have Democracy now so thats OK. Providing the government there continues to do what the US want.
Stan Shannon wrote:
But, we do not live in a world that is even in the most remote sense threatened by Christians or their beliefs.
Really. If there are many more Christians out there who think and talk like you i would say the world is most definately threatened. Jon -- modified at 11:59 Wednesday 23rd November, 2005
jonathan15 wrote:
We just do it for economics. Or is it OK to send a country back to the dark ages just to protect the $. We have f***ed Iraq (Or is Iraq just full of the murdering Islamic extreamists you would like to blame for everything) and all the good people who live there just so GW could get his rocks off. Oh at least they have Democracy now so thats OK. Providing the government there continues to do what the US want.
I don't accept your premise. I disagree with the war in Iraq, but we are, in fact, there for reasons at least as noble as those that motivated us to liberate Europe.
jonathan15 wrote:
If there are many more Christians out there who think and talk like you i would say the world is most definately threatened.
Did I say I was a Christian? EDIT - And if I were, it is obvious you have no problem in seeing Christianity as a threat. Yet, heaven help us if anyone points out the same issues with other religions. "Patriotism is the first refuge of a patriot." -- modified at 12:07 Wednesday 23rd November, 2005
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Wonderful! Now you have a spare just in case this Allah guy needs an extra suicide bomber to blow up some infidels. "Patriotism is the first refuge of a patriot."
Sometimes you can be a right cunt Stan. What a fucking shitty thing to say to a guy who has just become a father. You should be thoroughly ashamed of yourself - today you're a disgrace to humanity.
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How would you like to change places with poor little Fatima? (For fuck's sake) "Patriotism is the first refuge of a patriot."
I've seen insensitivity from you before, but this time you've hit a new low, and one that makes me feel physically sick. I'm glad we've never met, and probably never will. Anna :rose: Riverblade Ltd - Software Consultancy Services Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work.
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jonathan15 wrote:
We just do it for economics. Or is it OK to send a country back to the dark ages just to protect the $. We have f***ed Iraq (Or is Iraq just full of the murdering Islamic extreamists you would like to blame for everything) and all the good people who live there just so GW could get his rocks off. Oh at least they have Democracy now so thats OK. Providing the government there continues to do what the US want.
I don't accept your premise. I disagree with the war in Iraq, but we are, in fact, there for reasons at least as noble as those that motivated us to liberate Europe.
jonathan15 wrote:
If there are many more Christians out there who think and talk like you i would say the world is most definately threatened.
Did I say I was a Christian? EDIT - And if I were, it is obvious you have no problem in seeing Christianity as a threat. Yet, heaven help us if anyone points out the same issues with other religions. "Patriotism is the first refuge of a patriot." -- modified at 12:07 Wednesday 23rd November, 2005
Stan Shannon wrote:
Did I say I was a Christian?
Stan Shannon wrote:
Reply 3: Multiculturalism (ie "Tolerance for all beliefs that are not Christian") also deserves to be insulted and at every possible opportunity.
Pretty close, unless you're also intolerant with your own beliefs. But somehow that wouldn't surprise me.
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Actually, so was I, kinda. My comment was what passes for sarcasm - a close cousin to irony. Still, I think you were a little heavy handed. In any case, who (tell the truth now) really gives a fuck that he had another kid, regardless of what you think he'll encourage him to do later in life.
turning the other cheek just gets you slapped twice
legalAlien wrote:
Still, I think you were a little heavy handed.
And intentinonally so. I intend to respond to any mention of allah, in any context, in precisely the same way. I don't care how many people want to make excuses for Muslims, I have no intention of doing so. This dick head can have as many kids as he likes, but he can keep his bullshit religion to himself or clean it up. "Patriotism is the first refuge of a patriot."