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  • S Shog9 0

    ...Some of us actually used Win9x. X|

    You must be careful in the forest Broken glass and rusty nails If you're to bring back something for us I have bullets for sale...

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    Ray Cassick
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    Shog9 wrote:

    Win9x

    Hey... In it's day Windows 95 OSR2 was the best desktop OS out there (besides Windows NT 4). I NEVER had as many issues with it as I did with 98, 98SE and lets not forget 98ME. Don't lump them ALL together :)


    George Carlin wrote: "Don't sweat the petty things, and don't pet the sweaty things." Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: If the physicists find a universal theory describing the laws of universe, I'm sure the asshole constant will be an integral part of that theory.
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      but until they start making development environments that slow me down, or applications that dont all seem to JUST WORK together, I will love them

      Obviously you are still a novice with regards to Microsoft products. ;P Marc VS2005 Tips & Tricks -- contributions welcome!

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      Raj Lal
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      Way far behind... i wonder when this guy will have the "light moment" he will be farther... and yes [ Microsoft makes Digital Photos fun with Photo Story 3 and its free ] and it is developed in C# and if he know C # it won't be hard to create something like that "Not everything that counts can be counted..." -Albert Einstein

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        When in college I noticed a huge distaste and distrust for Microsoft from the professors and students and geeks. I think there are a (irony?) majority of people who like to go against the grain. I also think that so many people dislike Microsoft because they are "the establishment" and they feel "in the know" when they tell people how horrible Microsoft is. For example, someone might feel more knowledgable for knowing that some security hole exists in Microsoft's browser and tells my mom, who had no idea (but for that matter, did not care and never will). But it occurred to me that I could go against the grain for actually sticking up for Microsoft and touting its (superior) products even though it earned me scoffs. But I had ammunition. See, I actually developed a web site built on linux and an open source database backend and apache that grew to 4,500,000 pageviews a month. My "opinions" were based with an equal-or-greater knowledge of the opposition. It may be COOL to hate Microsoft, but until they start making development environments that slow me down, or applications that dont all seem to JUST WORK together, I will love them... and consequently go against the grain.


        Microsoft makes Digital Photos fun with Photo Story 3 and its free. | Windows Vista Forums

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        Raj Lal
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        contradicting yourself ... what is your point ? Ignorance is bliss "Not everything that counts can be counted..." -Albert Einstein

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        • G GISnet

          When in college I noticed a huge distaste and distrust for Microsoft from the professors and students and geeks. I think there are a (irony?) majority of people who like to go against the grain. I also think that so many people dislike Microsoft because they are "the establishment" and they feel "in the know" when they tell people how horrible Microsoft is. For example, someone might feel more knowledgable for knowing that some security hole exists in Microsoft's browser and tells my mom, who had no idea (but for that matter, did not care and never will). But it occurred to me that I could go against the grain for actually sticking up for Microsoft and touting its (superior) products even though it earned me scoffs. But I had ammunition. See, I actually developed a web site built on linux and an open source database backend and apache that grew to 4,500,000 pageviews a month. My "opinions" were based with an equal-or-greater knowledge of the opposition. It may be COOL to hate Microsoft, but until they start making development environments that slow me down, or applications that dont all seem to JUST WORK together, I will love them... and consequently go against the grain.


          Microsoft makes Digital Photos fun with Photo Story 3 and its free. | Windows Vista Forums

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          gregs
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          Back when I used to lecture in a technology-based department (this is no reflection on the department, which was excellent), I was considered strange by some of my colleagues for actually preferring to use Windows systems (I love Visual Studio), and yet they wondered why their (non-computer science) students found it difficult doing their work on unix. Their students used to tell me that they were used to Windows, and Windows software existed to do all they were trying to do on unix, and they didn't know how to set up their PCs at home to dual boot linux just for a couple of courses. I personally think that making them use unix made them better computer users, but that wasn't the reason the lecturers made them do it - they just didn't like Microsoft, which to me seems rather silly, and I write cross-platform (Win/Linux/Mac/kitchen sink) software all the time.

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          • R Ray Cassick

            Shog9 wrote:

            Win9x

            Hey... In it's day Windows 95 OSR2 was the best desktop OS out there (besides Windows NT 4). I NEVER had as many issues with it as I did with 98, 98SE and lets not forget 98ME. Don't lump them ALL together :)


            George Carlin wrote: "Don't sweat the petty things, and don't pet the sweaty things." Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: If the physicists find a universal theory describing the laws of universe, I'm sure the asshole constant will be an integral part of that theory.
            My Blog[^]


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            Ray Cassick wrote:

            Don't lump them ALL together

            Why not? They're all versions of the same product, the same codebase, and the same bugs. They all sucked, but were leagues ahead of any previous Microsoft product. Good riddance! X| "...a photo album is like Life, but flat and stuck to pages." - Shog9

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              Shog9 wrote:

              Win9x

              Hey... In it's day Windows 95 OSR2 was the best desktop OS out there (besides Windows NT 4). I NEVER had as many issues with it as I did with 98, 98SE and lets not forget 98ME. Don't lump them ALL together :)


              George Carlin wrote: "Don't sweat the petty things, and don't pet the sweaty things." Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: If the physicists find a universal theory describing the laws of universe, I'm sure the asshole constant will be an integral part of that theory.
              My Blog[^]


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              Ray Cassick wrote:

              Don't lump them ALL together :)

              Sorry, but compared to the Linux distros of the time (i abandoned Win95 OSR2 in frustration, and switched to SuSE for a couple years) or Win2k and up (the first NT-based OS i installed on my home machines) the Win9x line *all* seem grimy and unpleasant. :)

              I just want you to be happy; That's my only little wish...

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                Ray Cassick wrote:

                Don't lump them ALL together :)

                Sorry, but compared to the Linux distros of the time (i abandoned Win95 OSR2 in frustration, and switched to SuSE for a couple years) or Win2k and up (the first NT-based OS i installed on my home machines) the Win9x line *all* seem grimy and unpleasant. :)

                I just want you to be happy; That's my only little wish...

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                Roger Wright
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                Shog9 wrote:

                the Win9x line *all* seem grimy and unpleasant.

                I have to teach my students to work on those systems in order to pass the A+ exam, but I make them wear gloves while they're working on them. It just isn't safe...:sigh: "...a photo album is like Life, but flat and stuck to pages." - Shog9

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                • G GISnet

                  When in college I noticed a huge distaste and distrust for Microsoft from the professors and students and geeks. I think there are a (irony?) majority of people who like to go against the grain. I also think that so many people dislike Microsoft because they are "the establishment" and they feel "in the know" when they tell people how horrible Microsoft is. For example, someone might feel more knowledgable for knowing that some security hole exists in Microsoft's browser and tells my mom, who had no idea (but for that matter, did not care and never will). But it occurred to me that I could go against the grain for actually sticking up for Microsoft and touting its (superior) products even though it earned me scoffs. But I had ammunition. See, I actually developed a web site built on linux and an open source database backend and apache that grew to 4,500,000 pageviews a month. My "opinions" were based with an equal-or-greater knowledge of the opposition. It may be COOL to hate Microsoft, but until they start making development environments that slow me down, or applications that dont all seem to JUST WORK together, I will love them... and consequently go against the grain.


                  Microsoft makes Digital Photos fun with Photo Story 3 and its free. | Windows Vista Forums

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                  S Douglas
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                  GISnet wrote:

                  It may be COOL to hate Microsoft

                  I recently moved, while packing my tools the girlfriend scoffed at the number of hammers I have. I explained to her that each hammer is very good at doing one thing or another. I have a framing hammer, claw hammer, tack hammer, sledge hammer and the list goes on. If I tried to use just one hammer for everything then I would never get the job done in an efficient manor. How many hours do you think it would take to bust out a concrete step with a 20oz hammer? The point of my ramblings is this; there isn’t just one OS that fits everyone’s needs and not every application is served by one platform. The hatred and bashing is just silly. If that’s all someone can do then I could careless what they are saying clearly they only have one hammer in their toolbox.


                  ZeePain! wrote:

                  This seems like one of those programs that started small, grew incrementally, building internal pressure, and finally barfed all over its source code sneakers. Or something.

                  thedailywtf.com[^]

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                    ...Some of us actually used Win9x. X|

                    You must be careful in the forest Broken glass and rusty nails If you're to bring back something for us I have bullets for sale...

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                    feline_dracoform
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                    please, it was a late night last night, it feels far to early in the morning to be working, i don't need you filling my mind with nightmare visions ;) zen is the art of being at one with the two'ness

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                      GISnet wrote:

                      It may be COOL to hate Microsoft

                      I recently moved, while packing my tools the girlfriend scoffed at the number of hammers I have. I explained to her that each hammer is very good at doing one thing or another. I have a framing hammer, claw hammer, tack hammer, sledge hammer and the list goes on. If I tried to use just one hammer for everything then I would never get the job done in an efficient manor. How many hours do you think it would take to bust out a concrete step with a 20oz hammer? The point of my ramblings is this; there isn’t just one OS that fits everyone’s needs and not every application is served by one platform. The hatred and bashing is just silly. If that’s all someone can do then I could careless what they are saying clearly they only have one hammer in their toolbox.


                      ZeePain! wrote:

                      This seems like one of those programs that started small, grew incrementally, building internal pressure, and finally barfed all over its source code sneakers. Or something.

                      thedailywtf.com[^]

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                      Chris Meech
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                      ... or saws for cutting lumber ... or screw drivers for joining The list is endless and your analogy is really good. :) Chris Meech I am Canadian. [heard in a local bar] Remember that in Texas, Gun Control is hitting what you aim at. [Richard Stringer] Nice sig! [Tim Deveaux on Matt Newman's sig with a quote from me]

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                        please, it was a late night last night, it feels far to early in the morning to be working, i don't need you filling my mind with nightmare visions ;) zen is the art of being at one with the two'ness

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                        El Corazon
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                        I guess I shouldn't tell you that it went into at least a couple of military vans.... I believe they have since been retired though... I think. _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                        • C Chris Meech

                          ... or saws for cutting lumber ... or screw drivers for joining The list is endless and your analogy is really good. :) Chris Meech I am Canadian. [heard in a local bar] Remember that in Texas, Gun Control is hitting what you aim at. [Richard Stringer] Nice sig! [Tim Deveaux on Matt Newman's sig with a quote from me]

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                          S Douglas
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                          Chris Meech wrote:

                          ... or saws for cutting lumber ... or screw drivers for joining

                          Precisely.

                          Chris Meech wrote:

                          The list is endless and your analogy is really good.

                          Thanks, I wasn’t sure the point would shine though. :->


                          ZeePain! wrote:

                          This seems like one of those programs that started small, grew incrementally, building internal pressure, and finally barfed all over its source code sneakers. Or something.

                          thedailywtf.com[^]

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