More Outrage - Yet Another Liberal Lie
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One thing that the mass media and so called "criminal experts" seem to go on and on about is this "identity theft" ridiculousness. Yet, I've never met a single person who had their identity stolen! Fear of identity theft is an underhanded liberal socialist tactic in order to make people feel more comfortable about accepting government control over their lives, and a subversive push towards reducing freedoms, i.e. - "we can't sell you this gun, because your identity might have been stolen." What depths won't liberals sink to to push their agenda? X| "Liberals are stalwart defenders of civil liberties - provided we're only talking about criminals."
Stan Shannon wrote:
One thing that the mass media and so called "criminal experts" seem to go on and on about is this "identity theft" ridiculousness. Yet, I've never met a single person who had their identity stolen!
That's not a liberal lie (except that liberals of course are the cause of all evil). For example travel guidebooks about south america tell you everything about thievery and robbery. With special glee they share the complex schemes that some of the ladrones use to get your camera, money, liver and life. I never met one person in person who was separated from their posessions that way. I met people who met people who, and I met people who felt followed by a dog trained to follow them so the ladrones could follow them with some greater distance. However, I met enough people who got stoned and can't for the sake of christ remember where they put their camera. Who dropped their bags off on a dorm bed, left, and coming back wondered where their just purchased "super bargain" jewelry. I've seen (and had) many gadgets fall from trouser pockets on overnight bus travels. I guess all these complex trickery tales are fabricated by right wing "security experts", that want to keep honest liberals from learning abroad, and rather make sure people stay at home, so they grow into stubborn, close minded, undereducated Bush droolers. ;P
Stan Shannon wrote:
"we can't sell you this gun, because your identity might have been stolen."
that's the PC way to say "we don't sell guns to right wing nuts". Definitely not an extremely prosperous business idea, but it's PC.
We say "get a life" to each other, disappointed or jokingly. What we forget, though, is that this is possibly the most destructive advice you can give to a geek.
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Why give a f*** about chris?
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Pumk1nh3ad wrote:
Why give an f***
While you're correct that the letter f requires an because of its pronunciation, proper usage in this context requires a because you're referencing the entire word.
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You made a good point. The liberals will stop at nothing to push their agenda. I find it interesting that the word liberal comes from the latin word menaing freedom, but they are continually pushing for more socialism and government controls. Liberals support socialist garbage like eminent domain property confiscations (See Here[^] ), doesn't that seem anti-american. Can you imaging the founding fathers putting up with that? I also hate how people who want to restrict our freedom always refer to "the terrorists" in such an ambiguous way (For instance, see Here[^] ). They are just trying to make us feel insecure so they can further limit our freedoms.
Stan Shannon wrote:
"we can't sell you this gun, because your identity might have been stolen."
Oh, but wouldnt it be worth it if it saved the life of one child? X|
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Pumk1nh3ad wrote:
I find it interesting that the word liberal comes from the latin word menaing freedom, but they are continually pushing for more socialism and government controls.
tell us, which party passed the USA PATRIOT act ? who signed McCain / Fiengold ? which President approves of indefinte inprisonment without charge?
Pumk1nh3ad wrote:
I also hate how people who want to restrict our freedom always refer to "the terrorists" in such an ambiguous way
no shit. for example, Bush and his sycophants, who uses the label on everyone who opposes him. and as for your other reply that i got an email for, but that doesn't seem to want to show up on the forum:
Pumk1nh3ad wrote:
So, you couldnt come up with any better argument against what he said than that? Lame.
he was making a joke - one that was pretty clever and funny, except that his use of someone else's name rubs me the wrong way. and since it was a joke, not a fucking master's thesis or point of debate, there is no need for me to present any kind of "argument". so, in other words : don't be a dumbass. rebut that. Cleek | Image Toolkits | Thumbnail maker
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it was funny. but the name usage... well you already know how i feel about that. Cleek | Image Toolkits | Thumbnail maker
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One thing that the mass media and so called "criminal experts" seem to go on and on about is this "identity theft" ridiculousness. Yet, I've never met a single person who had their identity stolen! Fear of identity theft is an underhanded liberal socialist tactic in order to make people feel more comfortable about accepting government control over their lives, and a subversive push towards reducing freedoms, i.e. - "we can't sell you this gun, because your identity might have been stolen." What depths won't liberals sink to to push their agenda? X| "Liberals are stalwart defenders of civil liberties - provided we're only talking about criminals."
Why do you assume that every boogieman is a liberal? Certainly it can't be because our society and/or governmet are under liberal control. I agree with you that identity theft is probably over-hyped, but I put that down to the following: 1) The corporate media's need to oversensationalize news in order to keep selling their product. Very similar to the so-called "war on terror". (I don't know anyone who's died in a terror attck; do you?) 2) If people are afraid of identity theft, it becomes possible to sell them products and services that can help defend against it. 3) The government has a strong desire to prevent people from creating artificial identities - the flip side of ID theft. -- modified at 22:30 Thursday 1st December, 2005
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Pumk1nh3ad wrote:
Why give an f***
While you're correct that the letter f requires an because of its pronunciation, proper usage in this context requires a because you're referencing the entire word.
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One thing that the mass media and so called "criminal experts" seem to go on and on about is this "identity theft" ridiculousness. Yet, I've never met a single person who had their identity stolen! Fear of identity theft is an underhanded liberal socialist tactic in order to make people feel more comfortable about accepting government control over their lives, and a subversive push towards reducing freedoms, i.e. - "we can't sell you this gun, because your identity might have been stolen." What depths won't liberals sink to to push their agenda? X| "Liberals are stalwart defenders of civil liberties - provided we're only talking about criminals."
When it comes to civil liberties, I am much more afraid of a right wight government than of a left wing one.
Stan Shannon wrote:
"we can't sell you this gun, because your identity might have been stolen."
Yeah, let's sell stingers[^] to anyone. And having a A bomb at home is a right!
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Why do you assume that every boogieman is a liberal? Certainly it can't be because our society and/or governmet are under liberal control. I agree with you that identity theft is probably over-hyped, but I put that down to the following: 1) The corporate media's need to oversensationalize news in order to keep selling their product. Very similar to the so-called "war on terror". (I don't know anyone who's died in a terror attck; do you?) 2) If people are afraid of identity theft, it becomes possible to sell them products and services that can help defend against it. 3) The government has a strong desire to prevent people from creating artificial identities - the flip side of ID theft. -- modified at 22:30 Thursday 1st December, 2005
Jim A. Johnson wrote:
The government has a strong desire to prevent people from creating artificial identities
Which is something I've been mulling over recently as a way of protecting yourself from identity theft. The principle is straightforward - if you have multiple distinct identities for use in different scenarios, then the loss or theft of one of those identities causes you less problems than the loss of a single, primary, identity. Basic risk management, and points out the flaws with national ID schemes, which try and shoehorn you into having one identity.
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One thing that the mass media and so called "criminal experts" seem to go on and on about is this "identity theft" ridiculousness. Yet, I've never met a single person who had their identity stolen! Fear of identity theft is an underhanded liberal socialist tactic in order to make people feel more comfortable about accepting government control over their lives, and a subversive push towards reducing freedoms, i.e. - "we can't sell you this gun, because your identity might have been stolen." What depths won't liberals sink to to push their agenda? X| "Liberals are stalwart defenders of civil liberties - provided we're only talking about criminals."
Stan Shannon wrote:
Yet, I've never met a single person who had their identity stolen!
Well, now you have. About 20 years ago, the company headquarters called and said the IRS had contacted them regarding a discrepency in my wage earnings. Turned out some Mexican was using my SSN. However! Other than the notification, nothing else happened of it. No destruction of life, no credit card bills magically appearing, etc. Marc VS2005 Tips & Tricks -- contributions welcome!
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Pumk1nh3ad wrote:
I find it interesting that the word liberal comes from the latin word menaing freedom, but they are continually pushing for more socialism and government controls.
tell us, which party passed the USA PATRIOT act ? who signed McCain / Fiengold ? which President approves of indefinte inprisonment without charge?
Pumk1nh3ad wrote:
I also hate how people who want to restrict our freedom always refer to "the terrorists" in such an ambiguous way
no shit. for example, Bush and his sycophants, who uses the label on everyone who opposes him. and as for your other reply that i got an email for, but that doesn't seem to want to show up on the forum:
Pumk1nh3ad wrote:
So, you couldnt come up with any better argument against what he said than that? Lame.
he was making a joke - one that was pretty clever and funny, except that his use of someone else's name rubs me the wrong way. and since it was a joke, not a fucking master's thesis or point of debate, there is no need for me to present any kind of "argument". so, in other words : don't be a dumbass. rebut that. Cleek | Image Toolkits | Thumbnail maker
Slightly off topic but... I find Carnivore, DragonWare, and E911 more invasive to me than the government seeing what books I check out at my library. Our privacy/freedoms has been under attack even before Bush. Since most people/media don't understand technology, very few complained about these in the 90's. Thoughts?
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Slightly off topic but... I find Carnivore, DragonWare, and E911 more invasive to me than the government seeing what books I check out at my library. Our privacy/freedoms has been under attack even before Bush. Since most people/media don't understand technology, very few complained about these in the 90's. Thoughts?
there's a lot more to USA PATRIOT than just library books. National Security Letters, for example, are a flagrant abuse of power. it doesn't take much imagination to see how the Self-Proclaimed Patriotic Protectors of Freedom would react if President Hillary signed that kind of crap into law. Cleek | Image Toolkits | Thumbnail maker -- modified at 13:18 Friday 2nd December, 2005
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Pumk1nh3ad wrote:
Why give an f***
While you're correct that the letter f requires an because of its pronunciation, proper usage in this context requires a because you're referencing the entire word.
It was just a fucking typo. I will be more careful to proofread next time I post something because there are people like you looking for something to make fun of we over.
Pumk1nh3ad illustrates that Intelligent Design oft goes awry. - Ed Gadziemski You did'nt get it. I over estimated you. - Josh Gray
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Pumk1nh3ad wrote:
I find it interesting that the word liberal comes from the latin word menaing freedom, but they are continually pushing for more socialism and government controls.
tell us, which party passed the USA PATRIOT act ? who signed McCain / Fiengold ? which President approves of indefinte inprisonment without charge?
Pumk1nh3ad wrote:
I also hate how people who want to restrict our freedom always refer to "the terrorists" in such an ambiguous way
no shit. for example, Bush and his sycophants, who uses the label on everyone who opposes him. and as for your other reply that i got an email for, but that doesn't seem to want to show up on the forum:
Pumk1nh3ad wrote:
So, you couldnt come up with any better argument against what he said than that? Lame.
he was making a joke - one that was pretty clever and funny, except that his use of someone else's name rubs me the wrong way. and since it was a joke, not a fucking master's thesis or point of debate, there is no need for me to present any kind of "argument". so, in other words : don't be a dumbass. rebut that. Cleek | Image Toolkits | Thumbnail maker
Chris Losinger wrote:
no sh*t. for example, Bush and his sycophants, who uses the label on everyone who opposes him. and as for your other reply that i got an email for, but that doesn't seem to want to show up on the forum:
I know. I didnt say liberals in that statement, I said "People who want to restrict our freedom". That includes Bush.
Chris Losinger wrote:
he was making a joke - one that was pretty clever and funny, except that his use of someone else's name rubs me the wrong way. and since it was a joke, not a f***ing master's thesis or point of debate, there is no need for me to present any kind of "argument". so, in other words : don't be a dumbass. rebut that.
I posted that before I realized that it was a joke, then deleted it. I thought you were just trying to make fun. I realize now that what I said looked stupid, and that is why I deleted it. Why are you making fun of me, are you trying to impress the other people on this forum? I dont give a shit about what you say, you can make fun of me and flame me all you want and it will make no difference at all.
Pumk1nh3ad illustrates that Intelligent Design oft goes awry. - Ed Gadziemski You did'nt get it. I over estimated you. - Josh Gray
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Chris Losinger wrote:
no sh*t. for example, Bush and his sycophants, who uses the label on everyone who opposes him. and as for your other reply that i got an email for, but that doesn't seem to want to show up on the forum:
I know. I didnt say liberals in that statement, I said "People who want to restrict our freedom". That includes Bush.
Chris Losinger wrote:
he was making a joke - one that was pretty clever and funny, except that his use of someone else's name rubs me the wrong way. and since it was a joke, not a f***ing master's thesis or point of debate, there is no need for me to present any kind of "argument". so, in other words : don't be a dumbass. rebut that.
I posted that before I realized that it was a joke, then deleted it. I thought you were just trying to make fun. I realize now that what I said looked stupid, and that is why I deleted it. Why are you making fun of me, are you trying to impress the other people on this forum? I dont give a shit about what you say, you can make fun of me and flame me all you want and it will make no difference at all.
Pumk1nh3ad illustrates that Intelligent Design oft goes awry. - Ed Gadziemski You did'nt get it. I over estimated you. - Josh Gray
Pumk1nh3ad wrote:
I didnt say liberals in that statement
well, that requires some mighty fine parsing. given that the first two paragraphs are entirely about the evil "liberals", i can hardly be blamed for assuming you're still talking about them in the third - especially given this sentence in the first:
I find it interesting that the word liberal comes from the latin word menaing freedom, but they are continually pushing for more socialism and government controls.
the evil liberals are pushing for more government controls and then "some people" want to restrict our freedom... yeah, maybe you didn't say "liberals" in that statement, but English isn't that strict.
Pumk1nh3ad wrote:
Why are you making fun of me, are you trying to impress the other people on this forum? I dont give a sh*t about what you say, you can make fun of me and flame me all you want and it will make no difference at all.
good to hear. next time you're wondering why someone has responded to you impolitely, you might go back and take a look at how you initiated the conversation. for example, if your first volley is:
So, you couldnt come up with any better argument against what he said than that? Lame.
...you can't expect to get a polite response. Cleek | Image Toolkits | Thumbnail maker
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Stan Shannon wrote:
One thing that the mass media and so called "criminal experts" seem to go on and on about is this "identity theft" ridiculousness. Yet, I've never met a single person who had their identity stolen!
That's not a liberal lie (except that liberals of course are the cause of all evil). For example travel guidebooks about south america tell you everything about thievery and robbery. With special glee they share the complex schemes that some of the ladrones use to get your camera, money, liver and life. I never met one person in person who was separated from their posessions that way. I met people who met people who, and I met people who felt followed by a dog trained to follow them so the ladrones could follow them with some greater distance. However, I met enough people who got stoned and can't for the sake of christ remember where they put their camera. Who dropped their bags off on a dorm bed, left, and coming back wondered where their just purchased "super bargain" jewelry. I've seen (and had) many gadgets fall from trouser pockets on overnight bus travels. I guess all these complex trickery tales are fabricated by right wing "security experts", that want to keep honest liberals from learning abroad, and rather make sure people stay at home, so they grow into stubborn, close minded, undereducated Bush droolers. ;P
Stan Shannon wrote:
"we can't sell you this gun, because your identity might have been stolen."
that's the PC way to say "we don't sell guns to right wing nuts". Definitely not an extremely prosperous business idea, but it's PC.
We say "get a life" to each other, disappointed or jokingly. What we forget, though, is that this is possibly the most destructive advice you can give to a geek.
boost your code || Fold With Us! || sighistIf you want a fight come out of your holes.
We say "get a life" to each other, disappointed or jokingly. What we forget, though, is that this is possibly the most destructive advice you can give to a geek.
boost your code || Fold With Us! || sighist -
there's a lot more to USA PATRIOT than just library books. National Security Letters, for example, are a flagrant abuse of power. it doesn't take much imagination to see how the Self-Proclaimed Patriotic Protectors of Freedom would react if President Hillary signed that kind of crap into law. Cleek | Image Toolkits | Thumbnail maker -- modified at 13:18 Friday 2nd December, 2005
Chris Losinger wrote:
there's a lot more to USA PATRIOT than just library books.
Yeah I know. I was just remembering the big stink in the news about this and I wondered where these people were in 1996 when the FCC added E911 or when Carnivore was first mention. I'm just tired of politicians(both sides) invading my privacy for "my" benefit. If people dont want to be tracked fine. If people dont want to wear seat belts, fine. Etc, etc...
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Pumk1nh3ad wrote:
I find it interesting that the word liberal comes from the latin word menaing freedom, but they are continually pushing for more socialism and government controls.
tell us, which party passed the USA PATRIOT act ? who signed McCain / Fiengold ? which President approves of indefinte inprisonment without charge?
Pumk1nh3ad wrote:
I also hate how people who want to restrict our freedom always refer to "the terrorists" in such an ambiguous way
no shit. for example, Bush and his sycophants, who uses the label on everyone who opposes him. and as for your other reply that i got an email for, but that doesn't seem to want to show up on the forum:
Pumk1nh3ad wrote:
So, you couldnt come up with any better argument against what he said than that? Lame.
he was making a joke - one that was pretty clever and funny, except that his use of someone else's name rubs me the wrong way. and since it was a joke, not a fucking master's thesis or point of debate, there is no need for me to present any kind of "argument". so, in other words : don't be a dumbass. rebut that. Cleek | Image Toolkits | Thumbnail maker
McCain's not a Republican - he's just pretending. BTW his home here in Phoenix is up for sale, so many have surmised that he's got his sights set on trying for the presidency again. He won't make it past the primaries.
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Chris Losinger wrote:
there's a lot more to USA PATRIOT than just library books.
Yeah I know. I was just remembering the big stink in the news about this and I wondered where these people were in 1996 when the FCC added E911 or when Carnivore was first mention. I'm just tired of politicians(both sides) invading my privacy for "my" benefit. If people dont want to be tracked fine. If people dont want to wear seat belts, fine. Etc, etc...
Tim Ranker wrote:
wondered where these people were in 1996 when the FCC added E911 or when Carnivore was first mention
i know i wrote a bunch of letters to my reps over much of that stuff (which i learned about via Slashdot). but, maybe it's as simple as: more people paying attention to politics these days thanks to the internet, terrorism and Bush's policies. they didn't complain then because they weren't paying attention. Cleek | Image Toolkits | Thumbnail maker
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It was just a fucking typo. I will be more careful to proofread next time I post something because there are people like you looking for something to make fun of we over.
Pumk1nh3ad illustrates that Intelligent Design oft goes awry. - Ed Gadziemski You did'nt get it. I over estimated you. - Josh Gray
Pumk1nh3ad wrote:
I will be more careful to proofread next time I post something because there are people like you looking for something to make fun of we over.
I'm not making fun of you. I'm giving grammatical correction. I respect your intellect and consider many of your posts well-written and thoughtful. Of course, your political orientation is off kilter, but you're still young enough to find the left side of the Force. :)