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  • C Chris Losinger

    Pumk1nh3ad wrote:

    I find it interesting that the word liberal comes from the latin word menaing freedom, but they are continually pushing for more socialism and government controls.

    tell us, which party passed the USA PATRIOT act ? who signed McCain / Fiengold ? which President approves of indefinte inprisonment without charge?

    Pumk1nh3ad wrote:

    I also hate how people who want to restrict our freedom always refer to "the terrorists" in such an ambiguous way

    no shit. for example, Bush and his sycophants, who uses the label on everyone who opposes him. and as for your other reply that i got an email for, but that doesn't seem to want to show up on the forum:

    Pumk1nh3ad wrote:

    So, you couldnt come up with any better argument against what he said than that? Lame.

    he was making a joke - one that was pretty clever and funny, except that his use of someone else's name rubs me the wrong way. and since it was a joke, not a fucking master's thesis or point of debate, there is no need for me to present any kind of "argument". so, in other words : don't be a dumbass. rebut that. Cleek | Image Toolkits | Thumbnail maker

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    Slightly off topic but... I find Carnivore, DragonWare, and E911 more invasive to me than the government seeing what books I check out at my library. Our privacy/freedoms has been under attack even before Bush. Since most people/media don't understand technology, very few complained about these in the 90's. Thoughts?

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      Slightly off topic but... I find Carnivore, DragonWare, and E911 more invasive to me than the government seeing what books I check out at my library. Our privacy/freedoms has been under attack even before Bush. Since most people/media don't understand technology, very few complained about these in the 90's. Thoughts?

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      there's a lot more to USA PATRIOT than just library books. National Security Letters, for example, are a flagrant abuse of power. it doesn't take much imagination to see how the Self-Proclaimed Patriotic Protectors of Freedom would react if President Hillary signed that kind of crap into law. Cleek | Image Toolkits | Thumbnail maker -- modified at 13:18 Friday 2nd December, 2005

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      • E Ed Gadziemski

        Pumk1nh3ad wrote:

        Why give an f***

        While you're correct that the letter f requires an because of its pronunciation, proper usage in this context requires a because you're referencing the entire word.


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        Allah On Acid
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        It was just a fucking typo. I will be more careful to proofread next time I post something because there are people like you looking for something to make fun of we over.


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        • C Chris Losinger

          Pumk1nh3ad wrote:

          I find it interesting that the word liberal comes from the latin word menaing freedom, but they are continually pushing for more socialism and government controls.

          tell us, which party passed the USA PATRIOT act ? who signed McCain / Fiengold ? which President approves of indefinte inprisonment without charge?

          Pumk1nh3ad wrote:

          I also hate how people who want to restrict our freedom always refer to "the terrorists" in such an ambiguous way

          no shit. for example, Bush and his sycophants, who uses the label on everyone who opposes him. and as for your other reply that i got an email for, but that doesn't seem to want to show up on the forum:

          Pumk1nh3ad wrote:

          So, you couldnt come up with any better argument against what he said than that? Lame.

          he was making a joke - one that was pretty clever and funny, except that his use of someone else's name rubs me the wrong way. and since it was a joke, not a fucking master's thesis or point of debate, there is no need for me to present any kind of "argument". so, in other words : don't be a dumbass. rebut that. Cleek | Image Toolkits | Thumbnail maker

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          Allah On Acid
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          Chris Losinger wrote:

          no sh*t. for example, Bush and his sycophants, who uses the label on everyone who opposes him. and as for your other reply that i got an email for, but that doesn't seem to want to show up on the forum:

          I know. I didnt say liberals in that statement, I said "People who want to restrict our freedom". That includes Bush.

          Chris Losinger wrote:

          he was making a joke - one that was pretty clever and funny, except that his use of someone else's name rubs me the wrong way. and since it was a joke, not a f***ing master's thesis or point of debate, there is no need for me to present any kind of "argument". so, in other words : don't be a dumbass. rebut that.

          I posted that before I realized that it was a joke, then deleted it. I thought you were just trying to make fun. I realize now that what I said looked stupid, and that is why I deleted it. Why are you making fun of me, are you trying to impress the other people on this forum? I dont give a shit about what you say, you can make fun of me and flame me all you want and it will make no difference at all.


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          • A Allah On Acid

            Chris Losinger wrote:

            no sh*t. for example, Bush and his sycophants, who uses the label on everyone who opposes him. and as for your other reply that i got an email for, but that doesn't seem to want to show up on the forum:

            I know. I didnt say liberals in that statement, I said "People who want to restrict our freedom". That includes Bush.

            Chris Losinger wrote:

            he was making a joke - one that was pretty clever and funny, except that his use of someone else's name rubs me the wrong way. and since it was a joke, not a f***ing master's thesis or point of debate, there is no need for me to present any kind of "argument". so, in other words : don't be a dumbass. rebut that.

            I posted that before I realized that it was a joke, then deleted it. I thought you were just trying to make fun. I realize now that what I said looked stupid, and that is why I deleted it. Why are you making fun of me, are you trying to impress the other people on this forum? I dont give a shit about what you say, you can make fun of me and flame me all you want and it will make no difference at all.


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            Chris Losinger
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            Pumk1nh3ad wrote:

            I didnt say liberals in that statement

            well, that requires some mighty fine parsing. given that the first two paragraphs are entirely about the evil "liberals", i can hardly be blamed for assuming you're still talking about them in the third - especially given this sentence in the first:

            I find it interesting that the word liberal comes from the latin word menaing freedom, but they are continually pushing for more socialism and government controls.

            the evil liberals are pushing for more government controls and then "some people" want to restrict our freedom... yeah, maybe you didn't say "liberals" in that statement, but English isn't that strict.

            Pumk1nh3ad wrote:

            Why are you making fun of me, are you trying to impress the other people on this forum? I dont give a sh*t about what you say, you can make fun of me and flame me all you want and it will make no difference at all.

            good to hear. next time you're wondering why someone has responded to you impolitely, you might go back and take a look at how you initiated the conversation. for example, if your first volley is:

            So, you couldnt come up with any better argument against what he said than that? Lame.

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            • P peterchen

              Stan Shannon wrote:

              One thing that the mass media and so called "criminal experts" seem to go on and on about is this "identity theft" ridiculousness. Yet, I've never met a single person who had their identity stolen!

              That's not a liberal lie (except that liberals of course are the cause of all evil). For example travel guidebooks about south america tell you everything about thievery and robbery. With special glee they share the complex schemes that some of the ladrones use to get your camera, money, liver and life. I never met one person in person who was separated from their posessions that way. I met people who met people who, and I met people who felt followed by a dog trained to follow them so the ladrones could follow them with some greater distance. However, I met enough people who got stoned and can't for the sake of christ remember where they put their camera. Who dropped their bags off on a dorm bed, left, and coming back wondered where their just purchased "super bargain" jewelry. I've seen (and had) many gadgets fall from trouser pockets on overnight bus travels. I guess all these complex trickery tales are fabricated by right wing "security experts", that want to keep honest liberals from learning abroad, and rather make sure people stay at home, so they grow into stubborn, close minded, undereducated Bush droolers. ;P

              Stan Shannon wrote:

              "we can't sell you this gun, because your identity might have been stolen."

              that's the PC way to say "we don't sell guns to right wing nuts". Definitely not an extremely prosperous business idea, but it's PC.


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              If you want a fight come out of your holes.


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              • C Chris Losinger

                there's a lot more to USA PATRIOT than just library books. National Security Letters, for example, are a flagrant abuse of power. it doesn't take much imagination to see how the Self-Proclaimed Patriotic Protectors of Freedom would react if President Hillary signed that kind of crap into law. Cleek | Image Toolkits | Thumbnail maker -- modified at 13:18 Friday 2nd December, 2005

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                Chris Losinger wrote:

                there's a lot more to USA PATRIOT than just library books.

                Yeah I know. I was just remembering the big stink in the news about this and I wondered where these people were in 1996 when the FCC added E911 or when Carnivore was first mention. I'm just tired of politicians(both sides) invading my privacy for "my" benefit. If people dont want to be tracked fine. If people dont want to wear seat belts, fine. Etc, etc...

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                • C Chris Losinger

                  Pumk1nh3ad wrote:

                  I find it interesting that the word liberal comes from the latin word menaing freedom, but they are continually pushing for more socialism and government controls.

                  tell us, which party passed the USA PATRIOT act ? who signed McCain / Fiengold ? which President approves of indefinte inprisonment without charge?

                  Pumk1nh3ad wrote:

                  I also hate how people who want to restrict our freedom always refer to "the terrorists" in such an ambiguous way

                  no shit. for example, Bush and his sycophants, who uses the label on everyone who opposes him. and as for your other reply that i got an email for, but that doesn't seem to want to show up on the forum:

                  Pumk1nh3ad wrote:

                  So, you couldnt come up with any better argument against what he said than that? Lame.

                  he was making a joke - one that was pretty clever and funny, except that his use of someone else's name rubs me the wrong way. and since it was a joke, not a fucking master's thesis or point of debate, there is no need for me to present any kind of "argument". so, in other words : don't be a dumbass. rebut that. Cleek | Image Toolkits | Thumbnail maker

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                  McCain's not a Republican - he's just pretending. BTW his home here in Phoenix is up for sale, so many have surmised that he's got his sights set on trying for the presidency again. He won't make it past the primaries.

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                  • T Tim Ranker

                    Chris Losinger wrote:

                    there's a lot more to USA PATRIOT than just library books.

                    Yeah I know. I was just remembering the big stink in the news about this and I wondered where these people were in 1996 when the FCC added E911 or when Carnivore was first mention. I'm just tired of politicians(both sides) invading my privacy for "my" benefit. If people dont want to be tracked fine. If people dont want to wear seat belts, fine. Etc, etc...

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                    Chris Losinger
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                    Tim Ranker wrote:

                    wondered where these people were in 1996 when the FCC added E911 or when Carnivore was first mention

                    i know i wrote a bunch of letters to my reps over much of that stuff (which i learned about via Slashdot). but, maybe it's as simple as: more people paying attention to politics these days thanks to the internet, terrorism and Bush's policies. they didn't complain then because they weren't paying attention. Cleek | Image Toolkits | Thumbnail maker

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                    • A Allah On Acid

                      It was just a fucking typo. I will be more careful to proofread next time I post something because there are people like you looking for something to make fun of we over.


                      Pumk1nh3ad illustrates that Intelligent Design oft goes awry. - Ed Gadziemski You did'nt get it. I over estimated you. - Josh Gray

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                      Ed Gadziemski
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                      Pumk1nh3ad wrote:

                      I will be more careful to proofread next time I post something because there are people like you looking for something to make fun of we over.

                      I'm not making fun of you. I'm giving grammatical correction. I respect your intellect and consider many of your posts well-written and thoughtful. Of course, your political orientation is off kilter, but you're still young enough to find the left side of the Force. :)


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