Smoker Abuse
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I have just had a smoke outside where I work and a passer by muttered "****ing smokers" to their friend. It was obvious that I was the target of the statement. Now, I like to think that I am a considerate smoker (smoking in designated areas, not exhaling fumes into passers by, smoking down-wind at bus-stops, etc). In the light of the possibility of smoking being banned in public places and other such legislation this issue has been something that has been of growing interest to me. Should I, the smoker, be the target of these statements (after all, it is my fault that I smoke)? Has anyone else had a similar experience? If so, how did you deal with it?
Anyone that smoke's anywhere near me pisses me off. [edit]I should mention that I am allergic to cigarette/cigar/pipe smoke. My eyes get itchy/watery and gives me severe headaches. It even bothers me if someone is smoking in the car in front of me going down there road.[/edit]
Found on Bash.org [erno] hm. I've lost a machine.. literally _lost_. it responds to ping, it works completely, I just can't figure out where in my apartment it is.
-- modified at 21:09 Saturday 3rd December, 2005
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HalfWayMan wrote:
? If so, how did you deal with it?
It was probably me. I often utter those words when somebody is smoking near me... of course, I spent 5 years working in an office where everybody smoked and inhaling all their smoke has caused me many chest problems and brought my asthma back. Michael CP Blog [^] Development Blog [^]
And this gives you the legimitation to offend every smoker you encounter?
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HalfWayMan wrote:
Should I, the smoker, be the target of these statements (after all, it is my fault that I smoke)?
I think it comes down to who has had to deal with trouble from someone before. Men are the brunt of verbal lashings from women who have had issues in the past, and women the same. You smoke in front of me, I walk around you, it will be noticeable, but I will not pass you. I have gotten verbal lashings from the smoker just from doing that much, and some will even blow smoke in my direction because I walked around them. I also cannot breath around smokers... I can't breath in the hills east of san diego or in parts of L.A. either, I try to avoid them too unless work sends me. In winter I can't visit parts of El Paso either because of the use of tires as fire burning material. I don't need medical treatment for asthma as long as I avoid a certain amount of polutants, so I can choose to be medicated all my life, or I can avoid the triggers. Do what you want, just remember: no matter how careful, someone's downwind. _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
Jeffry J. Brickley wrote:
Do what you want, just remember: no matter how careful, someone's downwind.
I remember that when farting the next time... :laugh:
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And this gives you the legimitation to offend every smoker you encounter?
Neat big word, but do you mean legitimation. :-) Regardz Colin J Davies The most LinkedIn CPian (that I know of anyhow) :-)
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Neat big word, but do you mean legitimation. :-) Regardz Colin J Davies The most LinkedIn CPian (that I know of anyhow) :-)
I thought about excusing this mistake with my bad english but in german the word is written exactly the same way. :sigh:
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I thought about excusing this mistake with my bad english but in german the word is written exactly the same way. :sigh:
LOL - Amazingly I do not recall ever seeing that word in written form before. Regardz Colin J Davies The most LinkedIn CPian (that I know of anyhow) :-)
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Jeffry J. Brickley wrote:
I've never heard of a complete ban, even in an area where the subject comes up often
I think some politicians are pushing for it. Although the vast majortity want a compromise. There will be problems in Scotland next year because the new ban that will be introduced will mean no smoking in any public enclosed space (e.g pubs). This will mean that smokers will stand just outside which defeats the purpose as non-smokers will have to walk through a cloud of smoke to get into the pub.
Jeffry J. Brickley wrote:
I haven't heard a call for a ban in people's homes
Well, if people want to smoke in their own home then that's fine with me. I just hope the don't mind everything going an odd colour. An ex-girlfriend used to smoke and when she moved out I took the opportunity to repaint the walls. What a difference it made! I never realised how off-white the ceilings had become.
Jeffry J. Brickley wrote:
no business, bar, restraunt, shopping center, etc will have smoking zones in any way
I don't mind smoking zones in these places so long as they are clearly marked and have appropriate air-filtering systems so that the smoke does not leave the designated area.
My: Blog | Photos "Man who stand on hill with mouth open will wait long time for roast duck to drop in." -- Confucious
Colin Angus Mackay wrote:
I think some politicians are pushing for it. Although the vast majortity want a compromise.
I can't speak for Scotland, but I'd certainly favour a complete ban. I've lost count of the number of times I've walked out of a cafe, bar or restaurant (the latest was an hour ago) because I couldn't cope with the smoke. I was subjected to that filth by virtually everyone in my family when I was a child, and I would prefer not to smell another cigarette again.
Colin Angus Mackay wrote:
There will be problems in Scotland next year because the new ban that will be introduced will mean no smoking in any public enclosed space (e.g pubs). This will mean that smokers will stand just outside which defeats the purpose as non-smokers will have to walk through a cloud of smoke to get into the pub.
That's potentially a problem, but I'm sure it can be overcome with due consideration by the proprietors. Anna :rose: Currently working mostly on: Visual Lint :cool: Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work.
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Colin Angus Mackay wrote:
I think some politicians are pushing for it. Although the vast majortity want a compromise.
I can't speak for Scotland, but I'd certainly favour a complete ban. I've lost count of the number of times I've walked out of a cafe, bar or restaurant (the latest was an hour ago) because I couldn't cope with the smoke. I was subjected to that filth by virtually everyone in my family when I was a child, and I would prefer not to smell another cigarette again.
Colin Angus Mackay wrote:
There will be problems in Scotland next year because the new ban that will be introduced will mean no smoking in any public enclosed space (e.g pubs). This will mean that smokers will stand just outside which defeats the purpose as non-smokers will have to walk through a cloud of smoke to get into the pub.
That's potentially a problem, but I'm sure it can be overcome with due consideration by the proprietors. Anna :rose: Currently working mostly on: Visual Lint :cool: Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work.
Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote:
I can't speak for Scotland, but I'd certainly favour a complete ban.
Personally I thinka complete ban (i.e. no smoking anywhere and no ability to buy cigarettes) would be counterproductive as it would just drive everything underground and it would give rise to criminal gangs who have a ready made captive set of customers. I would like to see a complete ban on smoking in public places (e.g. streets, parks, cars with open windows [unless on private property] and so on) and business premesis. I be happy with exemptions for certain types of business (cigar clubs), but they would be few and far between. If people want to smoke in their own home then thats fine with me if children are not present - but, how do you police that?
Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote:
That's potentially a problem, but I'm sure it can be overcome with due consideration by the proprietors
Well, if they do good business and continue to make a profit then I doubt they'd care. So, we'll have to wait and see what happens.
My: Blog | Photos "Man who stand on hill with mouth open will wait long time for roast duck to drop in." -- Confucious
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Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote:
I can't speak for Scotland, but I'd certainly favour a complete ban.
Personally I thinka complete ban (i.e. no smoking anywhere and no ability to buy cigarettes) would be counterproductive as it would just drive everything underground and it would give rise to criminal gangs who have a ready made captive set of customers. I would like to see a complete ban on smoking in public places (e.g. streets, parks, cars with open windows [unless on private property] and so on) and business premesis. I be happy with exemptions for certain types of business (cigar clubs), but they would be few and far between. If people want to smoke in their own home then thats fine with me if children are not present - but, how do you police that?
Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote:
That's potentially a problem, but I'm sure it can be overcome with due consideration by the proprietors
Well, if they do good business and continue to make a profit then I doubt they'd care. So, we'll have to wait and see what happens.
My: Blog | Photos "Man who stand on hill with mouth open will wait long time for roast duck to drop in." -- Confucious
Colin Angus Mackay wrote:
I would like to see a complete ban on smoking in public places (e.g. streets, parks, cars with open windows [unless on private property] and so on) and business premesis.
That's what I meant. I don't why any premises with employees (licenced or otherwise) should be allowed an exception though. The governments' favoured compromise is - in my humble opinion - complete crap. Anna :rose: Currently working mostly on: Visual Lint :cool: Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work.
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Nah, I recommend people not to kill themselves. At least for something as meaningless as cigarettes really are. I mean, what do you get out of it other than a dependency, bad cough, bad conditioning, hairloss, yellow teeth, bad breath, yellow fingernails, black lounges, diseases, smelly clothes, higher costs, shorter life span, possibly impotence, impaired sense of smell, and impaired sense of taste, just to name a few drawbacks associated with smoking. -- Pictures[^] from my Japan trip.
Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote:
Nah, I recommend people not to kill themselves. At least for something as meaningless as cigarettes really are. I mean, what do you get out of it other than a dependency, bad cough, bad conditioning, hairloss, yellow teeth, bad breath, yellow fingernails, black lounges, diseases, smelly clothes, higher costs, shorter life span, possibly impotence, impaired sense of smell, and impaired sense of taste, just to name a few drawbacks associated with smoking.
Cool factor, Rebellion, Relaxation, Lemming, Excuse (to get out of the office)...I'm stretching here. Can't seem to find any "good" reason :D Todd Smith
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I have just had a smoke outside where I work and a passer by muttered "****ing smokers" to their friend. It was obvious that I was the target of the statement. Now, I like to think that I am a considerate smoker (smoking in designated areas, not exhaling fumes into passers by, smoking down-wind at bus-stops, etc). In the light of the possibility of smoking being banned in public places and other such legislation this issue has been something that has been of growing interest to me. Should I, the smoker, be the target of these statements (after all, it is my fault that I smoke)? Has anyone else had a similar experience? If so, how did you deal with it?
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LOL - Amazingly I do not recall ever seeing that word in written form before. Regardz Colin J Davies The most LinkedIn CPian (that I know of anyhow) :-)