Talented DUI
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Talented drunk driver pulled over[^] (video). Even if it is setup, it is still funny. regards, Paul Watson Ireland Colib and ilikecameras. K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!
This morning as I was driving about, I noticed a billboard about the Designated Driver program...unfortunatly it had an image of Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer...I might have chosen one of the other reindeers...:doh: Steve
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Michael A. Barnhart wrote:
they prefer the dexterity tests shown
The problem with that is that I would probably fail some of these dexterity tests. Like Paul, I couldn't recite the alphabet backwards unless I practiced it first. As for walking along a painted line - I'd just fall over.
My: Blog | Photos "Man who stand on hill with mouth open will wait long time for roast duck to drop in." -- Confucious
Colin Angus Mackay wrote:
The problem with that is that I would probably fail some of these dexterity tests. Like Paul, I couldn't recite the alphabet backwards unless I practiced it first. As for walking along a painted line - I'd just fall over.
There are additional problems.... I was in an accident about oh I guess 15 years ago, my first car that I bought with my own money. It was 2am, I was going to the bank to get some money for something the following day, I forget the reasons why I had to do it that late (I probably forgot to do it earlier). I was struck on the side by someone running a red light. Now there are some amazing things that happen when you are in an accident, the shock erased all the memory back to leaving the apartment parking lot. I couldn't tell you who ran the red light (luckily there was a witness), time slowed down such that the accident lasted what seemed like forever spinning round and round and resting on the median finally. But when I stepped out of the vehicle I was exhausted: whole body, barely standing on my feet, leg wavering, type exhaustion. The guy who had been drinking could walk the line better than me, though he failed too. A breathalizer called to the scene solved who had been drinking, and the witness solved who had run the red light. _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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Michael A. Barnhart wrote:
they prefer the dexterity tests shown
The problem with that is that I would probably fail some of these dexterity tests. Like Paul, I couldn't recite the alphabet backwards unless I practiced it first. As for walking along a painted line - I'd just fall over.
My: Blog | Photos "Man who stand on hill with mouth open will wait long time for roast duck to drop in." -- Confucious
Colin Angus Mackay wrote:
Like Paul, I couldn't recite the alphabet backwards unless I practiced it first.
same here, not something I practice either.
Colin Angus Mackay wrote:
As for walking along a painted line - I'd just fall over.
At least I can claim a birth defect that impairs my inner ear at times. Police are rewarded for providing the documentation so the district attorneys can win. DA's are rewarded by winning and bring in cash so taxes are kept down. I.E. we do it to ourselves. (yes this was a quick summary skipping many layers.) "Simplicity is more complicated than you think. But it’s well worth it” (Ron Jeffries)
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Colin Angus Mackay wrote:
The problem with that is that I would probably fail some of these dexterity tests. Like Paul, I couldn't recite the alphabet backwards unless I practiced it first. As for walking along a painted line - I'd just fall over.
There are additional problems.... I was in an accident about oh I guess 15 years ago, my first car that I bought with my own money. It was 2am, I was going to the bank to get some money for something the following day, I forget the reasons why I had to do it that late (I probably forgot to do it earlier). I was struck on the side by someone running a red light. Now there are some amazing things that happen when you are in an accident, the shock erased all the memory back to leaving the apartment parking lot. I couldn't tell you who ran the red light (luckily there was a witness), time slowed down such that the accident lasted what seemed like forever spinning round and round and resting on the median finally. But when I stepped out of the vehicle I was exhausted: whole body, barely standing on my feet, leg wavering, type exhaustion. The guy who had been drinking could walk the line better than me, though he failed too. A breathalizer called to the scene solved who had been drinking, and the witness solved who had run the red light. _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
Jeffry J. Brickley wrote:
the shock erased all the memory
YUP. I would have been 14 or 15, my brother was driving. Hit something (I assume oil on a rainy road and slid into the car infront at a stop light.) Anyways we did not stop or slow down much and the tank infront of us did. I remember seeing red tail lights and then having an officer force me into his patrol car. My brother had already been taken away to the hospital and the car towed away. I had no idea what happened or where they were. "Simplicity is more complicated than you think. But it’s well worth it” (Ron Jeffries)
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Very funny - But I just don't get why American police officers ask drivers to do this. It has always seemed to me to be a most ineffective way to work out if someone is over the legal limit or not. Why not use a roadside device for that? I'm sure it would be much quicker and more accurate.
My: Blog | Photos "Man who stand on hill with mouth open will wait long time for roast duck to drop in." -- Confucious
Remember this is TV. Not real. Police generally ask suspects to do several thing to see if they can follow directions, see if their speech is slurred and if they have any balance left. If they have trouble on a few preliminary tests they generally do a nastigmas test which is pretty accurate. ed ~"Watch your thoughts; they become your words. Watch your words they become your actions. Watch your actions; they become your habits. Watch your habits; they become your character. Watch your character; it becomes your destiny." -Frank Outlaw.
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A friend of mine got pulled over by the police once (actually, he's been pulled over many times - but they've never found anything to charge him with. Anyway, here's a story that illustrates the sort of thing that happens to hims). My friend likes to go to "the dancing". He lives in a remote village so he has to drive, and so only ever has one drink at the beginning of the night and no more. Well, within the limit and most likely flushed from his system when he emerges a few hours later. One night he goes back to his car - the public car park is oppisite the nightclub - and drives out. There is a police car that sits and watches for trouble outside the nightclub most nights. As he stops at the first set of traffic lights, the police pull up in the next lane. As he's a little hyped up from "the dancing" and he plays dance music in the car he is bopping away while waiting for the lights to change. About a kilometer or so up the road the police pull him over. He shows one his licence while the other checks the car. Naturally he asks what it was that was wrong with his driving or with his car. "Nothing" they say. So why did they pull him over? "Oh... You just looked too happy. We thought you must have been drunk or on drugs".
My: Blog | Photos "Man who stand on hill with mouth open will wait long time for roast duck to drop in." -- Confucious
Colin Angus Mackay wrote:
So why did they pull him over? "Oh... You just looked too happy. We thought you must have been drunk or on drugs".
Very suspicious nowadays :laugh:
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Remember this is TV. Not real. Police generally ask suspects to do several thing to see if they can follow directions, see if their speech is slurred and if they have any balance left. If they have trouble on a few preliminary tests they generally do a nastigmas test which is pretty accurate. ed ~"Watch your thoughts; they become your words. Watch your words they become your actions. Watch your actions; they become your habits. Watch your habits; they become your character. Watch your character; it becomes your destiny." -Frank Outlaw.
Our roadside police breathalise and/or drug test first, then get into a conversation. cheers, Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
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Talented drunk driver pulled over[^] (video). Even if it is setup, it is still funny. regards, Paul Watson Ireland Colib and ilikecameras. K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!
Paul Watson wrote:
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Very funny - But I just don't get why American police officers ask drivers to do this. It has always seemed to me to be a most ineffective way to work out if someone is over the legal limit or not. Why not use a roadside device for that? I'm sure it would be much quicker and more accurate.
My: Blog | Photos "Man who stand on hill with mouth open will wait long time for roast duck to drop in." -- Confucious
In Germany that works different - at least when you cycle home through a suburb area at two in the morning, ina freezing cold night. Since there are no papers for a bicycle, the first question is "is this your bike?" A classic wtf. Hint: the good answer is "yes". Living I live in an orwellian state, where everybody has to carry an id, so the Copette can ask me for this, it takes a while to get rid of my thick gloves, fumble out my freedom-supressing id card and watch her go back to the car to check it. Meanwhile, the guy cop makes a beeline - actually, a drunken bumblebee line (not that he appeared drunk) - frm my left rear/flank around my bicycle, stepping close to me (with my bike inbetween) looking upwards straight into my eyes, inquiringly. If this were the copette, she'd totally won me over by now. Well, to look up, she would have to kneel down, or at least bend a bit, and that might defeat the purpose. But its the cop, and he asks, companionating, "What did we drink?". Yes, he said "we". Like a buddy who calls you in the morning and asking "what did we drink?" just inbetween "Does your head hurt as much as mine?", and "Why didn't you stop me from taking this... thing home?". Unfortunately, my upbringing puts a lockdown on the higher functionality of my brain whenever I'm in the presence of cops, so I stick with the facts. "Drin`? I'm coming straight from work and want to go home." Remember that it's still icy cold, and my trick for cycling in this weather is to never really stop. It takes a while to check my id, either there are many cyclers asked if their ride is theirs, or the person at the other end is typing with the nose. I answer their "good night" with a shrug, and go on, trying to figure out If I would enjoy her doing the "step close" breathalyzer test again.
We say "get a life" to each other, disappointed or jokingly. What we forget, though, is that this is possibly the most destructive advice you can give to a geek.
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A cop friend of mine exlained that the dexterity tests & such aren't usable as direct evidence - they're used as a litmus test to see if further searching is justifiable. Drunk folks aren't going to do very well, typically, trying to balance and concentrate on something else at the same time. The breathalizer test is another 'quick and dirty' test the cops do if they strongly suspect someone has been drinking. Upon positive result (i.e. the breathalizer reports they are over the limit), they'll arrest the suspect under suspicion of DUI and take them down to the station to do an honest-to-god blood analysis to get a definitive blood alcohol level measurement. Breathalizer results alone are typically very weak evidence in court - most any competant lawyer (including public defenders) will get it ignored. The reason is that they're just not terribly reliable - false positives and negatives aren't wholly uncommon. Nevertheless, a positive is enough for a justification of more detailed searches, like the blood-alcohol test. I've been pulled over once and given the breathalizer test. I was the designated driver that night, and was driving friends home from a late-night bowling alley/bar. His initial reason for pulling me over was that I had two tail-lights out (which I did). He got one wiff of my car, which reeked of alcohol thanks to my friends. He flatly skipped all the silly field sobriety song-and-dance tests and went straight to the breathalizer. I blew a 0.0, he told me it'd be a good idea to get my tail-lights fixed as soon as I could, and that was the end of it. -- Russell Morris "So, broccoli, mother says you're good for me... but I'm afraid I'm no good for you!" - Stewy
I served on 2 different DUI juries and both times it pretty much came down this way. While things may be a little different in different jurisdictions, here it is first about probable cause, and seond proof in court. Weaving or erratic driving or dirt on your taillight is enough to pull you over. Then field sobriety tests are administered to give the officer probable cause to bring you in and administer a blood test. While other tests are admissible in court, the blood test is the only one that is pretty much unarguable. Breath tests alone can be pretty easily ignored if everything wasn't perfect and even then, if the defendant can bring up even the slightest doubt he can not be convicted (that whole proof beyond a reasonable doubt thing). Breath tests can be off due to slight machine malfunctions, miscalibration, temprature variation, etc. Only 'certified' officers may administer certain tests as well and not all officers are properly trained in all aspects of every test. What I don't understand is why there aren't mobile blood tests that can be administered by the field officers, much like the little machines that diabetics use. Takes just a drop of blood and a few minutes to give a pretty accurate result. Of course Police blood tests do look for more than just alcohol, but at least an officer could eliminate the whole BS dance and administer a 'quick' test in the field then bring the suspect in for the thorough test. Personally, I think our 'limits' and rules are a bit too driven by the trial lawyers association and NOT true public safety. If you ever watch ANY daytime television or sports out here a good 30-40 percent of the commercials are for sleazy trial lawyers there to buy you out of your DUI or se someone that happened to look at you funny. So who benefits the most by lower BAC limits? -George
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A cop friend of mine exlained that the dexterity tests & such aren't usable as direct evidence - they're used as a litmus test to see if further searching is justifiable. Drunk folks aren't going to do very well, typically, trying to balance and concentrate on something else at the same time. The breathalizer test is another 'quick and dirty' test the cops do if they strongly suspect someone has been drinking. Upon positive result (i.e. the breathalizer reports they are over the limit), they'll arrest the suspect under suspicion of DUI and take them down to the station to do an honest-to-god blood analysis to get a definitive blood alcohol level measurement. Breathalizer results alone are typically very weak evidence in court - most any competant lawyer (including public defenders) will get it ignored. The reason is that they're just not terribly reliable - false positives and negatives aren't wholly uncommon. Nevertheless, a positive is enough for a justification of more detailed searches, like the blood-alcohol test. I've been pulled over once and given the breathalizer test. I was the designated driver that night, and was driving friends home from a late-night bowling alley/bar. His initial reason for pulling me over was that I had two tail-lights out (which I did). He got one wiff of my car, which reeked of alcohol thanks to my friends. He flatly skipped all the silly field sobriety song-and-dance tests and went straight to the breathalizer. I blew a 0.0, he told me it'd be a good idea to get my tail-lights fixed as soon as I could, and that was the end of it. -- Russell Morris "So, broccoli, mother says you're good for me... but I'm afraid I'm no good for you!" - Stewy
Russell Morris wrote:
The breathalizer test is another 'quick and dirty' test the cops do if they strongly suspect someone has been drinking
I realise that. But why not just jump straight to that rather than the other forms of sobriety test? Why have the other forms at all other than to entertain people when watching the police video.
My: Blog | Photos "Man who stand on hill with mouth open will wait long time for roast duck to drop in." -- Confucious
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*grrch*
We say "get a life" to each other, disappointed or jokingly. What we forget, though, is that this is possibly the most destructive advice you can give to a geek.
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Our roadside police breathalise and/or drug test first, then get into a conversation. cheers, Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
"I see you have 0.0. Do you enjoy your stay in Australia, Sir? Do you need assistance finding your way to the Alligator Wrestling show?"
We say "get a life" to each other, disappointed or jokingly. What we forget, though, is that this is possibly the most destructive advice you can give to a geek.
boost your code || Fold With Us! || sighist -
Talented drunk driver pulled over[^] (video). Even if it is setup, it is still funny. regards, Paul Watson Ireland Colib and ilikecameras. K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!
This clip came from an American show called Reno 911[^]. The show a spoof on "Cops". The series is pretty hilarious. Chris LaQuerre eBusiness Projects Leader There is no 'patch' for stupidity. - quote found on SQLSecurity.com
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Our roadside police breathalise and/or drug test first, then get into a conversation. cheers, Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
Chris Maunder wrote:
breathalise and/or drug test first
Here they don't want to go to that kind of expense. Best one I ever worked was a girl coming home from a Christmas party. She tried to run but she drove down a cul de sac so she didn't get far. Then when I walked up she was undressing so I got her DL and went back to the car and called for cover. AFter cover arrived we tested her and took her down to jail. That is where we did the tests and filmed it all. She started dancing and singing for us. Did a partial strip. We had to stop her. Then she got mad and cussed everyone out. Course theres always the guys who sing all the way to jail. Never a dull moment! ed ~"Watch your thoughts; they become your words. Watch your words they become your actions. Watch your actions; they become your habits. Watch your habits; they become your character. Watch your character; it becomes your destiny." -Frank Outlaw.