Win 3 help
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I am in need of some help, I am tasked with getting a windows 3 box up and running. We have a computer that is dead that interfaces with some old hardware (we tried a 98 box already). It really really needs to be up asap I have been tasked with trying to get a win 3 system running. I have a box that might work, it has a cd drive and a floppy drive. I have no blank floppies but i have a copy of win 3.11 that is in a self-extracting zip. Does anyone have any ideas on how I could burn a bootable cd that could at least get the install on the hd? I would really really appreciate the help! Matt Newman
Even the very best tools in the hands of an idiot will produce something of little or no value. - Chris Meech on Idiots
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I am in need of some help, I am tasked with getting a windows 3 box up and running. We have a computer that is dead that interfaces with some old hardware (we tried a 98 box already). It really really needs to be up asap I have been tasked with trying to get a win 3 system running. I have a box that might work, it has a cd drive and a floppy drive. I have no blank floppies but i have a copy of win 3.11 that is in a self-extracting zip. Does anyone have any ideas on how I could burn a bootable cd that could at least get the install on the hd? I would really really appreciate the help! Matt Newman
Even the very best tools in the hands of an idiot will produce something of little or no value. - Chris Meech on Idiots
Use a Win98 CD to boot into a command prompt (with CD support enabled). That should get you going. Have another CD with the extracted Win 3.11 setup. Install Win 3.11. Run win.exe and you are on. Note - this won't work if Win 3.11 refuses to install on a 98 command prompt. It might need DOS 6.22, but this is worth a try.
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Use a Win98 CD to boot into a command prompt (with CD support enabled). That should get you going. Have another CD with the extracted Win 3.11 setup. Install Win 3.11. Run win.exe and you are on. Note - this won't work if Win 3.11 refuses to install on a 98 command prompt. It might need DOS 6.22, but this is worth a try.
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I am in need of some help, I am tasked with getting a windows 3 box up and running. We have a computer that is dead that interfaces with some old hardware (we tried a 98 box already). It really really needs to be up asap I have been tasked with trying to get a win 3 system running. I have a box that might work, it has a cd drive and a floppy drive. I have no blank floppies but i have a copy of win 3.11 that is in a self-extracting zip. Does anyone have any ideas on how I could burn a bootable cd that could at least get the install on the hd? I would really really appreciate the help! Matt Newman
Even the very best tools in the hands of an idiot will produce something of little or no value. - Chris Meech on Idiots
Might want to have a look around Bootdisk.com
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I am in need of some help, I am tasked with getting a windows 3 box up and running. We have a computer that is dead that interfaces with some old hardware (we tried a 98 box already). It really really needs to be up asap I have been tasked with trying to get a win 3 system running. I have a box that might work, it has a cd drive and a floppy drive. I have no blank floppies but i have a copy of win 3.11 that is in a self-extracting zip. Does anyone have any ideas on how I could burn a bootable cd that could at least get the install on the hd? I would really really appreciate the help! Matt Newman
Even the very best tools in the hands of an idiot will produce something of little or no value. - Chris Meech on Idiots
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er um... win 3.1 is a program that runs on top of dos. You first need to get dos 6.22 installed, and then load windows on top. this is all so long ago now.... the bad old days... that ended when win95 came along, well, more or less.
jrem wrote:
You first need to get dos 6.22 installed
That's not an option if you don't have DOS 6.22 with you. It might be possible to trick it to run by installing it on a 98 DOS prompt (98 (and 95 before it) comes with a fully standalone text based OS)
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I am in need of some help, I am tasked with getting a windows 3 box up and running. We have a computer that is dead that interfaces with some old hardware (we tried a 98 box already). It really really needs to be up asap I have been tasked with trying to get a win 3 system running. I have a box that might work, it has a cd drive and a floppy drive. I have no blank floppies but i have a copy of win 3.11 that is in a self-extracting zip. Does anyone have any ideas on how I could burn a bootable cd that could at least get the install on the hd? I would really really appreciate the help! Matt Newman
Even the very best tools in the hands of an idiot will produce something of little or no value. - Chris Meech on Idiots
Matt Newman wrote:
I am in need of some help, I am tasked with getting a windows 3 box up and running.
This got me thinking hard for a few seconds: "What is he trying to set up? A windows 2k3 box? Or even something newer?" It all seems so long ago... I still remember how we were able to copy the whole Windows installation to a few floppies and move to another system. XCopy deployment. ;) Next thing that comes to my mind is how a friend of mine had his 40MB hard drive split into 3 partitions: 15 + 15 + 10 IIRC. :)
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I am in need of some help, I am tasked with getting a windows 3 box up and running. We have a computer that is dead that interfaces with some old hardware (we tried a 98 box already). It really really needs to be up asap I have been tasked with trying to get a win 3 system running. I have a box that might work, it has a cd drive and a floppy drive. I have no blank floppies but i have a copy of win 3.11 that is in a self-extracting zip. Does anyone have any ideas on how I could burn a bootable cd that could at least get the install on the hd? I would really really appreciate the help! Matt Newman
Even the very best tools in the hands of an idiot will produce something of little or no value. - Chris Meech on Idiots
A hi-tech solution would be creating a Virtual Machine and pointing the virtual disk to a physical one. You "floppy" could be created from a disk image on your host HD. This way, you could install Win3.1 from your HD. Then you transfer the Win3.1 HD to another computer. But something that never ceases to awe me (I don't know if it's the case, but it seems so) is how people still uses old hardware as if it will never fail. I don't see dead pixels anymore... Yes, even I am blogging now!
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A hi-tech solution would be creating a Virtual Machine and pointing the virtual disk to a physical one. You "floppy" could be created from a disk image on your host HD. This way, you could install Win3.1 from your HD. Then you transfer the Win3.1 HD to another computer. But something that never ceases to awe me (I don't know if it's the case, but it seems so) is how people still uses old hardware as if it will never fail. I don't see dead pixels anymore... Yes, even I am blogging now!
Well this hardware has been running for over 8 years problem free and all it did was send info to some scales. Why fix what isn't broken right? Well then it broke and the software will only run on Win 3.11 and the company that produced it won't touch it because its "too old" Matt Newman
Even the very best tools in the hands of an idiot will produce something of little or no value. - Chris Meech on Idiots
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A hi-tech solution would be creating a Virtual Machine and pointing the virtual disk to a physical one. You "floppy" could be created from a disk image on your host HD. This way, you could install Win3.1 from your HD. Then you transfer the Win3.1 HD to another computer. But something that never ceases to awe me (I don't know if it's the case, but it seems so) is how people still uses old hardware as if it will never fail. I don't see dead pixels anymore... Yes, even I am blogging now!
Daniel Turini wrote:
But something that never ceases to awe me (I don't know if it's the case, but it seems so) is how people still uses old hardware as if it will never fail.
If the old hardware still works fine, and the new hardware costs thousands of dollars, why would one spend the money to "fix" something that is not broken. I could see spending the money when the old stuff breaks or when there is functionality that the new stuff has that the old does not and you really have to have the new functionality. But until then why change? I myself am running a win98 box for that exact reason. Until the vendor gives me a compelling reason to upgrade, I will continue to use my "old" hardware.
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Might want to have a look around Bootdisk.com
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Well this hardware has been running for over 8 years problem free and all it did was send info to some scales. Why fix what isn't broken right? Well then it broke and the software will only run on Win 3.11 and the company that produced it won't touch it because its "too old" Matt Newman
Even the very best tools in the hands of an idiot will produce something of little or no value. - Chris Meech on Idiots
Matt Newman wrote:
Why fix what isn't broken right?
If you have a spare one, or can buy one quickly, don't need to fix. If not, keep uograding.
Matt Newman wrote:
because its "too old"
You can't say they're wrong. Is an upgrade available? I don't see dead pixels anymore... Yes, even I am blogging now!
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Daniel Turini wrote:
But something that never ceases to awe me (I don't know if it's the case, but it seems so) is how people still uses old hardware as if it will never fail.
If the old hardware still works fine, and the new hardware costs thousands of dollars, why would one spend the money to "fix" something that is not broken. I could see spending the money when the old stuff breaks or when there is functionality that the new stuff has that the old does not and you really have to have the new functionality. But until then why change? I myself am running a win98 box for that exact reason. Until the vendor gives me a compelling reason to upgrade, I will continue to use my "old" hardware.
"You're obviously a superstar." - Christian Graus about me - 12 Feb '03 "Obviously ??? You're definitely a superstar!!!" - mYkel - 21 Jun '04 "There's not enough blatant self-congratulatory backslapping in the world today..." - HumblePie - 21 Jun '05 Within you lies the power for good - Use it!
PJ Arends wrote:
If the old hardware still works fine, and the new hardware costs thousands of dollars, why would one spend the money to "fix" something that is not broken.
Because, when it's broken, you won't be able to find spare parts nor similar hardware quickly enough. His urgency shows that he (or his customer) depends on that hardware, and now they can't even find a 5 1/4" floppy drive or disks. For me, it's just poor planing. Hardware *will* fail sometime, no computer is eternal, and you should have a backup plan, if part of your business depends on it. I don't see dead pixels anymore... Yes, even I am blogging now!
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Matt Newman wrote:
Why fix what isn't broken right?
If you have a spare one, or can buy one quickly, don't need to fix. If not, keep uograding.
Matt Newman wrote:
because its "too old"
You can't say they're wrong. Is an upgrade available? I don't see dead pixels anymore... Yes, even I am blogging now!
Daniel Turini wrote:
You can't say they're wrong. Is an upgrade available?
Oh i totally agree, and yes... but thats where the problem comes in for my bosses. We need to get the existing system up and running, we don't have time or budget to replace all the existing scales right now. Matt Newman
Even the very best tools in the hands of an idiot will produce something of little or no value. - Chris Meech on Idiots
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PJ Arends wrote:
If the old hardware still works fine, and the new hardware costs thousands of dollars, why would one spend the money to "fix" something that is not broken.
Because, when it's broken, you won't be able to find spare parts nor similar hardware quickly enough. His urgency shows that he (or his customer) depends on that hardware, and now they can't even find a 5 1/4" floppy drive or disks. For me, it's just poor planing. Hardware *will* fail sometime, no computer is eternal, and you should have a backup plan, if part of your business depends on it. I don't see dead pixels anymore... Yes, even I am blogging now!
Reminds me of when I worked in tech support. I had one call where 911 call center software was having problems because the PC clock wasn't accurate enough. Or another guy that had one desktop PC dedicated to recording emissions for their factory. His HDD failed and they were going to get thousands of dollars a day in fines while he waited for a replacement. At the time I freaked out and made sure we shipped a replacement as fast as we could. But now I just think the guy is an idiot.
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Sure, why not...
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