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    HakunaMatada
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    How does Windows Update work? Is downloads a setup file silently in the background and installs it. The Update can also be seen in the add remove programs. How does it do it? Also what happens if the downloading is in progress and the user shuts down the system? Bikash Rai

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      How does Windows Update work? Is downloads a setup file silently in the background and installs it. The Update can also be seen in the add remove programs. How does it do it? Also what happens if the downloading is in progress and the user shuts down the system? Bikash Rai

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      there's no need to repost... Operating system forum was already the right place...


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        there's no need to repost... Operating system forum was already the right place...


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        Sorry about that! Thought that I posted in the wrong section and not getting replies.:sigh: Bikash Rai

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          How does Windows Update work? Is downloads a setup file silently in the background and installs it. The Update can also be seen in the add remove programs. How does it do it? Also what happens if the downloading is in progress and the user shuts down the system? Bikash Rai

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          Nish Nishant
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          Turn Windows Update on if you cannot remember to do it manually every night. I turned mine off, got spyware through IE and spent 3 hours last night cleaning my machine. I then did a Windows Update and found a few critical patches that I hadn't applied.

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            Sorry about that! Thought that I posted in the wrong section and not getting replies.:sigh: Bikash Rai

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            answers will come if you give people time to, and if - of course - someone knows...


            TOXCCT >>> GEII power
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              Turn Windows Update on if you cannot remember to do it manually every night. I turned mine off, got spyware through IE and spent 3 hours last night cleaning my machine. I then did a Windows Update and found a few critical patches that I hadn't applied.

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              Vikram A Punathambekar
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              He's asking *how it works*, I think. Cheers, Vikram.


              "When I read in books about a "base class", I figured this was the class that was at the bottom of the inheritence tree. It's the "base", right? Like the base of a pyramid." - Marc Clifton.

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                He's asking *how it works*, I think. Cheers, Vikram.


                "When I read in books about a "base class", I figured this was the class that was at the bottom of the inheritence tree. It's the "base", right? Like the base of a pyramid." - Marc Clifton.

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                HakunaMatada
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                Egg-Zactly! I want to know the internals of the Windows Update mechanism, how it works and stuff. Help anyone? :(( :(( Bikash Rai

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                  answers will come if you give people time to, and if - of course - someone knows...


                  TOXCCT >>> GEII power
                  [toxcct][VisualCalc 2.20][VisualCalc 3.0]

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                  Sorry if I have offended you. Just that I am desperate!! :sigh: Bikash Rai

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                    How does Windows Update work? Is downloads a setup file silently in the background and installs it. The Update can also be seen in the add remove programs. How does it do it? Also what happens if the downloading is in progress and the user shuts down the system? Bikash Rai

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                    Nish Nishant
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                    I believe there's ActiveX involved! A signed ActiveX is installed on your system and then it can do as it pleases.

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                      I believe there's ActiveX involved! A signed ActiveX is installed on your system and then it can do as it pleases.

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                      A signed ActiveX, huh! Any ideas about the installation procedure of the updates and how they show up in the Add-Remove programs list? :confused: Bikash Rai

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                        How does Windows Update work? Is downloads a setup file silently in the background and installs it. The Update can also be seen in the add remove programs. How does it do it? Also what happens if the downloading is in progress and the user shuts down the system? Bikash Rai

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                        I can tell you something about the download. That is done via BITS (Background Intelligent Transfer Service) in the background using about 30% of your available network bandwidth. Shutting down your computer while downloading is no problem, BITS resumes the download of the appropriate file the next time you are online again. More information can be found on MSDN. Greetings Mathias

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                          I can tell you something about the download. That is done via BITS (Background Intelligent Transfer Service) in the background using about 30% of your available network bandwidth. Shutting down your computer while downloading is no problem, BITS resumes the download of the appropriate file the next time you are online again. More information can be found on MSDN. Greetings Mathias

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                          HakunaMatada
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                          Thank You! :) Bikash Rai

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                            Sorry if I have offended you. Just that I am desperate!! :sigh: Bikash Rai

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                            Bikash Rai wrote:

                            Sorry if I have offended you

                            you did not... it is simply common practice on a web forum (which differs by fact with a chat' forum) that answers may not come instantaneously...


                            TOXCCT >>> GEII power
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                              Bikash Rai wrote:

                              Sorry if I have offended you

                              you did not... it is simply common practice on a web forum (which differs by fact with a chat' forum) that answers may not come instantaneously...


                              TOXCCT >>> GEII power
                              [toxcct][VisualCalc 2.20][VisualCalc 3.0]

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                              Ok. I said Sorry! :sigh: Bikash Rai

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                                Egg-Zactly! I want to know the internals of the Windows Update mechanism, how it works and stuff. Help anyone? :(( :(( Bikash Rai

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                                Bikash Rai wrote:

                                I want to know the internals of the Windows Update mechanism

                                sorry, i cannot find any source code... :doh:


                                TOXCCT >>> GEII power
                                [toxcct][VisualCalc 2.20][VisualCalc 3.0]

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                                  Bikash Rai wrote:

                                  I want to know the internals of the Windows Update mechanism

                                  sorry, i cannot find any source code... :doh:


                                  TOXCCT >>> GEII power
                                  [toxcct][VisualCalc 2.20][VisualCalc 3.0]

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                                  HakunaMatada
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                                  No, I wasn't looking for any source code, just articles on how MS does it. :) Bikash Rai

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                                    How does Windows Update work? Is downloads a setup file silently in the background and installs it. The Update can also be seen in the add remove programs. How does it do it? Also what happens if the downloading is in progress and the user shuts down the system? Bikash Rai

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                                    look into BITS Background Intelligent Transfer Service[^]

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                                      look into BITS Background Intelligent Transfer Service[^]

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                                      Thanks.Read about the BITS implementation and its truly great :), but the sad part, it doesn't work with winME and lower :(. Any free implemention similar to BITS but for WinME and lower? Also, It download MSIs for updates, I think :confused:, but how the heck does it update the OS with MSIs. I want this in my own application but have no clue how to go about doing it. Can you help? :sigh: Bikash Rai

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                                        Thanks.Read about the BITS implementation and its truly great :), but the sad part, it doesn't work with winME and lower :(. Any free implemention similar to BITS but for WinME and lower? Also, It download MSIs for updates, I think :confused:, but how the heck does it update the OS with MSIs. I want this in my own application but have no clue how to go about doing it. Can you help? :sigh: Bikash Rai

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                                        I hope the following helps. If you want help programming it, give me a yell. you can read about msiexec here: About Windows Installer[^] I don't know if this will suit your needs, but it's a place to start: (codeproject) Cool C# File Downloader[^] (C#) File downloading with COM and ASP[^] Sourceforge.net: ImperoUpdater[^] (C#) Sharp AutoUpdater[^] (C#) Also, you can look into implementing something with WinINet: such as with InternetReadFile[^] and InternetSetFilePointer[^] or some of the other Common Functions[^] of

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