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  • G Gary R Wheeler

    Team Code Project[^] at Folding@Home[^] needs your help. Folding@Home uses your spare CPU cycles to simulate protein folding. From the home page: You can help by simply running a piece of software. Folding@Home is a distributed computing project -- people from through out the world download[^] and run software to band together to make one of the largest supercomputers in the world. Every computer makes the project closer to our goals. Folding@Home uses novel computational methods coupled to distributed computing, to simulate problems thousands to millions of times more challenging than previously achieved. You can read the FAQ[^]. I've been running the software for a while, and have never seen any degredation in performance or unusual resource consumption. Please consider it.


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    Matt Gerrans
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    I do this on my one measly home machine. I used to do it on several beefy multi-cpu machines I had at work (it was okay, they weren't web servers or anything, so they really did have cycles to spare), but now the firewall prevents it. :( Matt Gerrans

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      I signed up and joined the team, but I was very dissapointed to see no Windows screen saver version and there's no way I can let it run in the background while I'm working so I'm going to have to remember to start it at night, hopefully that's useful, I have a pretty fast station.


      "Hello, hello, what's all this shouting, we'll have no trouble here! This is a Local Shop for Local People, there's nothing for you here!" -Edward Tattsyrup

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      JimmyRopes
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      Set it up as a scheduled task and you won't have to remember anything except not to turn off your machine. I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopes

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        I do this on my one measly home machine. I used to do it on several beefy multi-cpu machines I had at work (it was okay, they weren't web servers or anything, so they really did have cycles to spare), but now the firewall prevents it. :( Matt Gerrans

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        JimmyRopes
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        Using work machines (presumably without official permission) is not a good idea. I can see a place for you in the un-employment line if these systems ever go south and this unauthorized software appears prominently, and is subsequntly discovered in some event logs. There is also the issue of security exposures opened by allowing web based systems to access your machines. I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopes

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          I signed up and joined the team, but I was very dissapointed to see no Windows screen saver version and there's no way I can let it run in the background while I'm working so I'm going to have to remember to start it at night, hopefully that's useful, I have a pretty fast station.


          "Hello, hello, what's all this shouting, we'll have no trouble here! This is a Local Shop for Local People, there's nothing for you here!" -Edward Tattsyrup

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          AETaylor
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          Hmm, I'm running it as a ScreenSaver :confused:

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            Using work machines (presumably without official permission) is not a good idea. I can see a place for you in the un-employment line if these systems ever go south and this unauthorized software appears prominently, and is subsequntly discovered in some event logs. There is also the issue of security exposures opened by allowing web based systems to access your machines. I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopes

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            Matt Gerrans
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            Bah. It might be a good excuse for getting rid of a slacker, but if you are a very useful and valuable contributor, then the worst that you'd get is someone asking you to stop doing it. Especially if you choose the type of places you work, rather than taking whatever job you can get and especially if you work with your collegues with integrity and competence. Heck, I wouldn't want to work for a company that would unceremoniously fire people who were trying to help find a cure for cancer. Anyway, unemployment isn't the end of the world. In fact it may be an awakening and a chance to open new avenues in your life. Or just some time off. :) Matt Gerrans

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            • G Gary R Wheeler

              Team Code Project[^] at Folding@Home[^] needs your help. Folding@Home uses your spare CPU cycles to simulate protein folding. From the home page: You can help by simply running a piece of software. Folding@Home is a distributed computing project -- people from through out the world download[^] and run software to band together to make one of the largest supercomputers in the world. Every computer makes the project closer to our goals. Folding@Home uses novel computational methods coupled to distributed computing, to simulate problems thousands to millions of times more challenging than previously achieved. You can read the FAQ[^]. I've been running the software for a while, and have never seen any degredation in performance or unusual resource consumption. Please consider it.


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              please take a moment to post why you fold (to your profile message board or your own homepage!) and add a link to it in your sig. Thank you. If you want to do me a personal favor, call it "fold with us!"


              We say "get a life" to each other, disappointed or jokingly. What we forget, though, is that this is possibly the most destructive advice you can give to a geek.
              boost your code || Fold With Us! || sighist -- modified at 3:20 Thursday 15th December, 2005

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              • G Gary R Wheeler

                Team Code Project[^] at Folding@Home[^] needs your help. Folding@Home uses your spare CPU cycles to simulate protein folding. From the home page: You can help by simply running a piece of software. Folding@Home is a distributed computing project -- people from through out the world download[^] and run software to band together to make one of the largest supercomputers in the world. Every computer makes the project closer to our goals. Folding@Home uses novel computational methods coupled to distributed computing, to simulate problems thousands to millions of times more challenging than previously achieved. You can read the FAQ[^]. I've been running the software for a while, and have never seen any degredation in performance or unusual resource consumption. Please consider it.


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                Alex Orovetskiy
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                From the point of view of system lag because of high CPU usage this one is not noticable at all. I can use some CPU hogs and my system would still run smoothly if I'll tell it to use all free CPU time. -------------------------------- Human stupidity is infinite.

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                • M Matt Gerrans

                  Bah. It might be a good excuse for getting rid of a slacker, but if you are a very useful and valuable contributor, then the worst that you'd get is someone asking you to stop doing it. Especially if you choose the type of places you work, rather than taking whatever job you can get and especially if you work with your collegues with integrity and competence. Heck, I wouldn't want to work for a company that would unceremoniously fire people who were trying to help find a cure for cancer. Anyway, unemployment isn't the end of the world. In fact it may be an awakening and a chance to open new avenues in your life. Or just some time off. :) Matt Gerrans

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                  It is nice to take a caviler attitude about it but unless you work for "Mom and Pop Software Company" and Mom happens to be Aunt Jane you may be in for a rude awakening. Even top notch people get a "pink slip" [redeemable for a check in the amount of your remaining compensation before you depart] if there is a security breach caused by unauthorized software YOU installed. Installing unauthorized software is in the same catagory as boinking the administrative assistants; it seems like a good thing at the time but it could come back to bite you. Not to mention possible legal action to recover costs from the person responsible, namely you, for the damage sustained. Additionally, unauthorized use of computing equipment is stealing and theft of services is a crime punishable under the legal code. Stealing can also disqualify you from receiving un-employment benefits when the company refuses to co-pay for your holiday and the case is brought up for review by the governing authorities. The company may have to decide to take legal action or co-pay for you. Do you still think they will consider you a superstar then? I think your name will be changed to liability at that point and they do have lawyers on staff that need things to do. You might think that you are a superstar, and in fact you may very well be, but that will be little comfort if you cause damages to the company and they exercise their right to seek compensation from the hacker that infected their system with unauthorized software. How would you look to management if some scum ware were to be installed based on an exploit centered on the unauthorized software YOU installed? Granted if you are a slacker the choice is easy but I wouldn't expect more than one warning before the other shoe falls if you do not heed the security guidelines in your employee's manual. If it is in writing then you have been forewarned. A rule of thumb in business is that no one is indispensable. All it takes is a RFP to be issued and see how many replacements come in for an interview. I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopes -- modified at 4:24 Thursday 15th December, 2005

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                    It is nice to take a caviler attitude about it but unless you work for "Mom and Pop Software Company" and Mom happens to be Aunt Jane you may be in for a rude awakening. Even top notch people get a "pink slip" [redeemable for a check in the amount of your remaining compensation before you depart] if there is a security breach caused by unauthorized software YOU installed. Installing unauthorized software is in the same catagory as boinking the administrative assistants; it seems like a good thing at the time but it could come back to bite you. Not to mention possible legal action to recover costs from the person responsible, namely you, for the damage sustained. Additionally, unauthorized use of computing equipment is stealing and theft of services is a crime punishable under the legal code. Stealing can also disqualify you from receiving un-employment benefits when the company refuses to co-pay for your holiday and the case is brought up for review by the governing authorities. The company may have to decide to take legal action or co-pay for you. Do you still think they will consider you a superstar then? I think your name will be changed to liability at that point and they do have lawyers on staff that need things to do. You might think that you are a superstar, and in fact you may very well be, but that will be little comfort if you cause damages to the company and they exercise their right to seek compensation from the hacker that infected their system with unauthorized software. How would you look to management if some scum ware were to be installed based on an exploit centered on the unauthorized software YOU installed? Granted if you are a slacker the choice is easy but I wouldn't expect more than one warning before the other shoe falls if you do not heed the security guidelines in your employee's manual. If it is in writing then you have been forewarned. A rule of thumb in business is that no one is indispensable. All it takes is a RFP to be issued and see how many replacements come in for an interview. I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopes -- modified at 4:24 Thursday 15th December, 2005

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                    ProffK
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                    I agree, especially working for a large bank. Security is a high priority, and although as developers we have a fair degree of freedom, if something were to go wrong their would be big poo. As a very necessary precaution, all our workstations only access production servers through an internal web application. To do something to a server, you actually have to go and ask someone to log you onto it physically. The DJ's took pills to stay awakwe and play for seven days. - Jim Morrison, Black Polished Chrome.

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                      I signed up and joined the team, but I was very dissapointed to see no Windows screen saver version and there's no way I can let it run in the background while I'm working so I'm going to have to remember to start it at night, hopefully that's useful, I have a pretty fast station.


                      "Hello, hello, what's all this shouting, we'll have no trouble here! This is a Local Shop for Local People, there's nothing for you here!" -Edward Tattsyrup

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                      Gary R Wheeler
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                      You just let it run all the time (it shows up as a tray application). The 'core' basically consumes CPU cycles that normally would have gone to the null process. The screen saver doesn't actually participate in the calculation; it's just for display purposes.


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                        please take a moment to post why you fold (to your profile message board or your own homepage!) and add a link to it in your sig. Thank you. If you want to do me a personal favor, call it "fold with us!"


                        We say "get a life" to each other, disappointed or jokingly. What we forget, though, is that this is possibly the most destructive advice you can give to a geek.
                        boost your code || Fold With Us! || sighist -- modified at 3:20 Thursday 15th December, 2005

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                        Gary R Wheeler
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                        Done.


                        Software Zen: delete this; // [Fold With Us!](http://www.codeproject.com/script/profile/whos_who.asp?msg=1307432&id=10338#xx1307432xx)[[^](http://www.codeproject.com/script/profile/whos_who.asp?msg=1307432&id=10338#xx1307432xx "New Window")]

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                        • G Gary R Wheeler

                          Team Code Project[^] at Folding@Home[^] needs your help. Folding@Home uses your spare CPU cycles to simulate protein folding. From the home page: You can help by simply running a piece of software. Folding@Home is a distributed computing project -- people from through out the world download[^] and run software to band together to make one of the largest supercomputers in the world. Every computer makes the project closer to our goals. Folding@Home uses novel computational methods coupled to distributed computing, to simulate problems thousands to millions of times more challenging than previously achieved. You can read the FAQ[^]. I've been running the software for a while, and have never seen any degredation in performance or unusual resource consumption. Please consider it.


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                          Dan Neely
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                          Folding is for sheep. Find a distributed project that matches your intrests and contribute cycles to it instead.

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                          • G Gary R Wheeler

                            Team Code Project[^] at Folding@Home[^] needs your help. Folding@Home uses your spare CPU cycles to simulate protein folding. From the home page: You can help by simply running a piece of software. Folding@Home is a distributed computing project -- people from through out the world download[^] and run software to band together to make one of the largest supercomputers in the world. Every computer makes the project closer to our goals. Folding@Home uses novel computational methods coupled to distributed computing, to simulate problems thousands to millions of times more challenging than previously achieved. You can read the FAQ[^]. I've been running the software for a while, and have never seen any degredation in performance or unusual resource consumption. Please consider it.


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                            Lost User
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                            Soon as I get a broadband connection again... I voted you a 5 by the way. The tigress is here :-D

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                            • G Gary R Wheeler

                              You just let it run all the time (it shows up as a tray application). The 'core' basically consumes CPU cycles that normally would have gone to the null process. The screen saver doesn't actually participate in the calculation; it's just for display purposes.


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                              Member 96
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                              I thought the SS would be better because the app would actually shut down when not in ss mode. I can't have anything at all running on my system but work related stuff when I'm working (that's why the ss would have been perfect) I'll just start and stop it manually.


                              "Hello, hello, what's all this shouting, we'll have no trouble here! This is a Local Shop for Local People, there's nothing for you here!" -Edward Tattsyrup

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                                please take a moment to post why you fold (to your profile message board or your own homepage!) and add a link to it in your sig. Thank you. If you want to do me a personal favor, call it "fold with us!"


                                We say "get a life" to each other, disappointed or jokingly. What we forget, though, is that this is possibly the most destructive advice you can give to a geek.
                                boost your code || Fold With Us! || sighist -- modified at 3:20 Thursday 15th December, 2005

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                                Member 96
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                                No ;)


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                                • M Marc Clifton

                                  I thought it was call, raise, or fold. ;P (I suspect I'll get flamed for making a joke out of a noble cause). I would contribute, expect I use exclusively laptops, and it's annoying to have the fans fire up when the background task takes over and rails the CPU. Marc VS2005 Tips & Tricks -- contributions welcome!

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                                  John L DeVito
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                                  Marc, I use strictly my laptop as well, I have my desktop buried in storage somewhere. There's an option in preferences for laptop users, you can specify how much cpu you want to use, and also turn off completely if you're on battery power, I just signed up. Thanks, John

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                                    Folding is for sheep. Find a distributed project that matches your intrests and contribute cycles to it instead.

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                                    Gary R Wheeler
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                                    dan neely wrote:

                                    Folding is for sheep

                                    Huh?


                                    Software Zen: delete this; // [Fold With Us!](http://www.codeproject.com/script/profile/whos_who.asp?msg=1307432&id=10338#xx1307432xx)[[^](http://www.codeproject.com/script/profile/whos_who.asp?msg=1307432&id=10338#xx1307432xx "New Window")]

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                                      Soon as I get a broadband connection again... I voted you a 5 by the way. The tigress is here :-D

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                                      Gary R Wheeler
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                                      Thanks, Elaine :rose:.


                                      Software Zen: delete this; // [Fold With Us!](http://www.codeproject.com/script/profile/whos_who.asp?msg=1307432&id=10338#xx1307432xx)[[^](http://www.codeproject.com/script/profile/whos_who.asp?msg=1307432&id=10338#xx1307432xx "New Window")]

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                                      • G Gary R Wheeler

                                        dan neely wrote:

                                        Folding is for sheep

                                        Huh?


                                        Software Zen: delete this; // [Fold With Us!](http://www.codeproject.com/script/profile/whos_who.asp?msg=1307432&id=10338#xx1307432xx)[[^](http://www.codeproject.com/script/profile/whos_who.asp?msg=1307432&id=10338#xx1307432xx "New Window")]

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                                        Dan Neely
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                                        Gary R. Wheeler wrote:

                                        dan neely wrote: Folding is for sheep Huh?

                                        Everyone and thier kid sister are folding now, just like 5 years ago they were running seti. Be an individual and pick a different project. Currently I'm running einstien@home and crunching ligo data looking for gravitational radiation.

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                                          Gary R. Wheeler wrote:

                                          dan neely wrote: Folding is for sheep Huh?

                                          Everyone and thier kid sister are folding now, just like 5 years ago they were running seti. Be an individual and pick a different project. Currently I'm running einstien@home and crunching ligo data looking for gravitational radiation.

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                                          Gary R Wheeler
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                                          I did choose Folding@Home over other projects.


                                          Software Zen: delete this; // [Fold With Us!](http://www.codeproject.com/script/profile/whos_who.asp?msg=1307432&id=10338#xx1307432xx)[[^](http://www.codeproject.com/script/profile/whos_who.asp?msg=1307432&id=10338#xx1307432xx "New Window")]

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