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  • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

    Robert Rohde wrote:

    There already is an opening bracket which seperates the function name from the arguments.

    It's the same case with ifs, is it not?
    -- Pictures[^] from my Japan trip.

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    Robert Rohde
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    Got me! When using ifs I would also always put a whitespace in between. :) I think it's really a matter of personal taste.

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    • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

      2 and 2. Mainly because that's how I've always done it, and I see no reasons to change my coding style. I've never heard of people complaining about it [edit], until now[/edit]. Especially after the invention of syntax highlighting editors.
      -- Pictures[^] from my Japan trip. -- modified at 11:50 Saturday 17th December, 2005

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      Kevin McFarlane
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      I can live with that. [smile] At least it's not 1 and 1, which are the worst IMO. Kevin

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      • K Kevin McFarlane

        Which style do you use/prefer? 1. if(a==b) 2. if(a == b) 3. if (a==b) 4. if (a == b) I use/prefer 4. But I notice (to my dismay) that 1, 2 and 3 are very common. However, they're not the worst programming sins, i.e., I wouldn't fail a candidate because of them. 1. doIt(a,b,c) 2. doIt(a, b, c) 3. doIt( a, b, c ) 4. doIt (a,b,c) 5. doIt (a, b, c) I use 2, but would prefer to use 5. I don't do so because it's too irregular, whereas 2 is in widespread use and adequately readable. If I were programming in Eiffel I would adopt 5 because, in its context, it's widely used and is the "house style." I used 3 for a while but abandoned it for similar reasons to 5. Kevin

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        Shog9 0
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        3 or 4 (no big preference) 1 or 2 (depending on length and complexity of arguments) The only thing i really care about is that [if|for|while] always are followed by a space. They're not functions, and shouldn't look like function calls. Similarly, function names should never be followed by a space - i want to recognize it as a function call immediately.

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        • K Kevin McFarlane

          Which style do you use/prefer? 1. if(a==b) 2. if(a == b) 3. if (a==b) 4. if (a == b) I use/prefer 4. But I notice (to my dismay) that 1, 2 and 3 are very common. However, they're not the worst programming sins, i.e., I wouldn't fail a candidate because of them. 1. doIt(a,b,c) 2. doIt(a, b, c) 3. doIt( a, b, c ) 4. doIt (a,b,c) 5. doIt (a, b, c) I use 2, but would prefer to use 5. I don't do so because it's too irregular, whereas 2 is in widespread use and adequately readable. If I were programming in Eiffel I would adopt 5 because, in its context, it's widely used and is the "house style." I used 3 for a while but abandoned it for similar reasons to 5. Kevin

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          Paul Conrad
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          Kevin McFarlane wrote:

          Which style do you use/prefer?

          I like to use and do prefer #4. Also, #2 or #3 for functions and their parameters. PC

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          • K Kevin McFarlane

            Which style do you use/prefer? 1. if(a==b) 2. if(a == b) 3. if (a==b) 4. if (a == b) I use/prefer 4. But I notice (to my dismay) that 1, 2 and 3 are very common. However, they're not the worst programming sins, i.e., I wouldn't fail a candidate because of them. 1. doIt(a,b,c) 2. doIt(a, b, c) 3. doIt( a, b, c ) 4. doIt (a,b,c) 5. doIt (a, b, c) I use 2, but would prefer to use 5. I don't do so because it's too irregular, whereas 2 is in widespread use and adequately readable. If I were programming in Eiffel I would adopt 5 because, in its context, it's widely used and is the "house style." I used 3 for a while but abandoned it for similar reasons to 5. Kevin

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            Ray Cassick
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            2 on both counts.


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            • K Kevin McFarlane

              Which style do you use/prefer? 1. if(a==b) 2. if(a == b) 3. if (a==b) 4. if (a == b) I use/prefer 4. But I notice (to my dismay) that 1, 2 and 3 are very common. However, they're not the worst programming sins, i.e., I wouldn't fail a candidate because of them. 1. doIt(a,b,c) 2. doIt(a, b, c) 3. doIt( a, b, c ) 4. doIt (a,b,c) 5. doIt (a, b, c) I use 2, but would prefer to use 5. I don't do so because it's too irregular, whereas 2 is in widespread use and adequately readable. If I were programming in Eiffel I would adopt 5 because, in its context, it's widely used and is the "house style." I used 3 for a while but abandoned it for similar reasons to 5. Kevin

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              Nemanja Trifunovic
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              4 and 2


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                In a project with as many lines of code as mine, extra whitespace probably slows down the build, load, backup and copy etc etc. I say #1 for anything more serious than a hobbyist.


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                Marc Clifton
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                Oh great, now every VB programmer out there is going to read your post and take you seriously. :rolleyes: Marc VS2005 Tips & Tricks -- contributions welcome!

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                • M Mircea Grelus

                  Same here. 4 for the first, 2 for second. regards, Mircea Many people spend their life going to sleep when they’re not sleepy and waking up while they still are.

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                  Jim A Johnson
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                  4 and 2 here 2

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                  • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

                    With that many lines of code, all the more reasons to make it readable, don't you think? Taking care of one whitespace during compilation is a matter of microseconds, if not nanoseconds. Surely, you'd allow an extra couple of seconds extra per milion lines of code when compiling..?
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                    Member 96
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                    It would be an interesting test to find out, maybe some sort of macro in vs that can get rid of any possible unnecessary whitespace and compare side by side. I comment liberally, but when you're looking at a huge screen full of code it's nice to be able to see it all at once rather than scrolling all over "hell's half acre" to find it. (which, when you think about it adds a *lot* more than a few seconds, probably hours to days over the life of a project)


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                    • R Robert Rohde

                      Is this some kind of joke Im not getting? Please tell me you are not serious with that... :~

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                      Member 96
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                      Serious about saving time compiling - no, serious about saving time scrolling all over the place when it could as easily fit on one screen and still be readable - yes. I *do* opt for the most compact code possible. I'm not crazy about it, for example a property has one line for the declaration, one line below for the get and one line below for the set, not all on one line, but not broken out with a single line for a parenthesis {, that's just a waste of visual acuity.


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                      • M Marc Clifton

                        Oh great, now every VB programmer out there is going to read your post and take you seriously. :rolleyes: Marc VS2005 Tips & Tricks -- contributions welcome!

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                        Member 96
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                        I bet there *is* some factor there though. My current project has hundreds of thousands of lines of code all pretty compact, but I bet if I put the whole solution through some sort of cruncher to eliminate any possible whitespace and another to format it out in full so called "readable" (I would say the opposite personally, wading through page after page looking for a part of a method when there is a line dedicated to ever parenthesis etc is not my idea of readable) format I bet there would be a noticeable difference loading, backing up, compiling etc etc.


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                        • N Nemanja Trifunovic

                          4 and 2


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                          Kevin McFarlane
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                          Same as me then. :) Kevin

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                          • K Kevin McFarlane

                            Which style do you use/prefer? 1. if(a==b) 2. if(a == b) 3. if (a==b) 4. if (a == b) I use/prefer 4. But I notice (to my dismay) that 1, 2 and 3 are very common. However, they're not the worst programming sins, i.e., I wouldn't fail a candidate because of them. 1. doIt(a,b,c) 2. doIt(a, b, c) 3. doIt( a, b, c ) 4. doIt (a,b,c) 5. doIt (a, b, c) I use 2, but would prefer to use 5. I don't do so because it's too irregular, whereas 2 is in widespread use and adequately readable. If I were programming in Eiffel I would adopt 5 because, in its context, it's widely used and is the "house style." I used 3 for a while but abandoned it for similar reasons to 5. Kevin

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                            Gary R Wheeler
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                            if (a == b) {
                            doIt(a,b,c);
                            }

                            and, just to fan the flames, notice the K&R braces ... :laugh:


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                              In a project with as many lines of code as mine, extra whitespace probably slows down the build, load, backup and copy etc etc. I say #1 for anything more serious than a hobbyist.


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                              Gary R Wheeler
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                              Normal amounts of whitespace can't possibly affect compile times or disk space significantly. Of course, you can contrive examples where it does (1K of spaces between each token in a source file, for example). If whitespace improves your ability to read and navigate the code (it does for me), then use it.


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                              • K Kevin McFarlane

                                Which style do you use/prefer? 1. if(a==b) 2. if(a == b) 3. if (a==b) 4. if (a == b) I use/prefer 4. But I notice (to my dismay) that 1, 2 and 3 are very common. However, they're not the worst programming sins, i.e., I wouldn't fail a candidate because of them. 1. doIt(a,b,c) 2. doIt(a, b, c) 3. doIt( a, b, c ) 4. doIt (a,b,c) 5. doIt (a, b, c) I use 2, but would prefer to use 5. I don't do so because it's too irregular, whereas 2 is in widespread use and adequately readable. If I were programming in Eiffel I would adopt 5 because, in its context, it's widely used and is the "house style." I used 3 for a while but abandoned it for similar reasons to 5. Kevin

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                                Ravi Bhavnani
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                                4. if (a == b) 5. doIt (a, b, c) /ravi My new year's resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Music | Articles | Freeware | Trips ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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                                  if (a == b) {
                                  doIt(a,b,c);
                                  }

                                  and, just to fan the flames, notice the K&R braces ... :laugh:


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                                  Kevin McFarlane
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                                  The K & R braces have been discussed in an earlier thread. From my perspective you've combined two of the worst features. But these are religious wars. :) My main point was to discover the distribution of people's preferred styles. Both topics - curly brace placement and white space are relatively minor issues. Some time ago I wrote an essay discussing poor programming practices and I didn't mention these two topics - mainly because they're largely subjective. Kevin

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                                    4. if (a == b) 5. doIt (a, b, c) /ravi My new year's resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Music | Articles | Freeware | Trips ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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                                    Kevin McFarlane
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                                    5 is what I'd like to use but don't. Well done. You get 100%!:) Kevin

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                                    • K Kevin McFarlane

                                      5 is what I'd like to use but don't. Well done. You get 100%!:) Kevin

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                                      Ravi Bhavnani
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                                      I know the feeling - I work with a (great) bunch of Java heads. :) But before you award me any points, I must confess I too follow K&R bracing/indenting. When reviewing other people's code, I try not to comment on whitespace or indenting. I'm happy as long as their code is readable (and of course correct, extensible and reasonably well performing). /ravi My new year's resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Music | Articles | Freeware | Trips ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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                                        3 or 4 (no big preference) 1 or 2 (depending on length and complexity of arguments) The only thing i really care about is that [if|for|while] always are followed by a space. They're not functions, and shouldn't look like function calls. Similarly, function names should never be followed by a space - i want to recognize it as a function call immediately.

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                                        Gary R Wheeler
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                                        Shog9 wrote:

                                        The only thing i really care about is that [if|for|while] always are followed by a space. They're not functions, and shouldn't look like function calls. Similarly, function names should never be followed by a space - i want to recognize it as a function call immediately.

                                        I agree. I work with a guy who does the opposite, and I @!#$%#@ hate reading his code. Here's an example:

                                        bool condition;
                                        while(condition)
                                        {
                                        if( functionA ( a, b, c ) )
                                        {
                                        for(int i=1;i<3;i++)
                                        {
                                        // and so on...
                                        }
                                        }
                                        functionB ( c, d, e );
                                        }

                                        I don't know which I dislike more, the spacing around the parentheses or the bizarre brace indentation. Admittedly, I use K&R brace style, so I don't like the braces on separate lines anyway, but indenting them as well?


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                                        • K Kevin McFarlane

                                          The K & R braces have been discussed in an earlier thread. From my perspective you've combined two of the worst features. But these are religious wars. :) My main point was to discover the distribution of people's preferred styles. Both topics - curly brace placement and white space are relatively minor issues. Some time ago I wrote an essay discussing poor programming practices and I didn't mention these two topics - mainly because they're largely subjective. Kevin

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                                          Gary R Wheeler
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                                          Kevin McFarlane wrote:

                                          they're largely subjective

                                          As others have no doubt said, consistency (using one style) is more important than choosing one style over another. The desired end result is to enhance readability of the code.


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