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  • C ColinDavies

    Terry O`Nolley wrote: I will change my weight-oriented goal to a body-fat percentage goal. Excellent thinking, As a big person I always find the straight weight logic silly. The biggest problem with fat percentage is finding a place that will affordably measure you accurately. Underwater weighing is my preference. Regardz Colin J Davies

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    Terry ONolley
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    ColinDavies wrote: The biggest problem with fat percentage is finding a place that will affordably measure you accurately. Underwater weighing is my preference. Yeah - doing the pinch tests don't really work - *especially* after losing a lot of weight because you will have these large sags that may give the impression of 3" of fat when it is mostly skin. Doing the water displacement test is the way to go.


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      peterchen wrote: Since you posted about working out, your posts sound less disconnected, less angry, less "cornered" than before. Part of my regimen includes no more beer drinking. :) While I am not the classic "angry drunk" (I am actually an affable drunk), I do lose certain inhibitions and that showed up when posting political rants in the soapbox. While my opinions remain the same, my desire to post them in that same tone has diminished. peterchen wrote: could you post some sneaky peaky photos? They are all in my mind and if I were to share that with the world I would probably be shunned on all 7 continents. peterchen wrote: what I actually wanted to post: just be careful when your body notices "efficiency mode is over, prepare for the next emergency". What happens then?


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      Terry O`Nolley wrote: my opinions remain the same, my desire to post them in that same tone has diminished It's not only the message itself, also the messanger. Terry O`Nolley wrote: What happens then? The typical effect after a reduced-calories-diet: if you go to less reduced/normal calories, your body switches to "store everything you can" mode, "for the next time of shortage". Which took us through cold winters for centuries now is the base for the JoJo-Effect.


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        ColinDavies wrote: The biggest problem with fat percentage is finding a place that will affordably measure you accurately. Underwater weighing is my preference. Yeah - doing the pinch tests don't really work - *especially* after losing a lot of weight because you will have these large sags that may give the impression of 3" of fat when it is mostly skin. Doing the water displacement test is the way to go.


        Glano perictu com sahni delorin!

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        Roger Wright
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        Terry O`Nolley wrote: water displacement test That sounds interesting. I had a test done using one of those electronic widgets. When the meter read "athlete" it was all I could do to keep from falling on the floor laughing. I can barely make five laps around the taekwondo classroom - about 1200'!:laugh: Some people think of it as a six-pack; I consider it more of a support group.

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          Terry O`Nolley wrote: water displacement test That sounds interesting. I had a test done using one of those electronic widgets. When the meter read "athlete" it was all I could do to keep from falling on the floor laughing. I can barely make five laps around the taekwondo classroom - about 1200'!:laugh: Some people think of it as a six-pack; I consider it more of a support group.

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          Roger Wright wrote: That sounds interesting They just weigh you then you get into a large graduated cylinder. The make the calculation based on how much water you displace compared to your body mass. There are several solid average weights for all internal organs, etc. so that is also considered. You are supposed to not eat for 24 hours so you are not retaining any extra semi-processed food. I used to take Tae-Kwon-Do and the repetitive excercises were a lot more difficult then running around the gym. If you are able to fully participate in Tae-Kwon-Do then it isn't too far-fetched to have an athletic body!


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            Roger Wright wrote: That sounds interesting They just weigh you then you get into a large graduated cylinder. The make the calculation based on how much water you displace compared to your body mass. There are several solid average weights for all internal organs, etc. so that is also considered. You are supposed to not eat for 24 hours so you are not retaining any extra semi-processed food. I used to take Tae-Kwon-Do and the repetitive excercises were a lot more difficult then running around the gym. If you are able to fully participate in Tae-Kwon-Do then it isn't too far-fetched to have an athletic body!


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            I can fully participate, though I'm insanely jealous of the kids who can bend over backwards and touch the floor. But the running is really rude to my knees. For a while I was doing a lot of leg lifts to build up the supporting muscle around them, but now that I'm working there's a lot less time for the gym. Still, it will come, as I am still doing a couple of miles of walking every night, and occasionally switch to sprints for a short distance. Congrats on the continuing progress, Terry - that's great!:-D Some people think of it as a six-pack; I consider it more of a support group.

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              Terry O`Nolley wrote: my opinions remain the same, my desire to post them in that same tone has diminished It's not only the message itself, also the messanger. Terry O`Nolley wrote: What happens then? The typical effect after a reduced-calories-diet: if you go to less reduced/normal calories, your body switches to "store everything you can" mode, "for the next time of shortage". Which took us through cold winters for centuries now is the base for the JoJo-Effect.


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              peterchen wrote: The typical effect after a reduced-calories-diet: if you go to less reduced/normal calories, your body switches to "store everything you can" mode, "for the next time of shortage". Which took us through cold winters for centuries now is the base for the JoJo-Effect. :omg: Yikes! I am going to stay away from that one! I don't want to turn into a health nut. I just want to get back down to a good weight and then let myself start being able to eat good food again. I do not want any "jo-jo" effect :) When I am done losing this weight, I will research how to taper back up my calories so I remain stable.


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                Yes! I got over the hump of my body switching to "efficiency mode". It has realized it isn't starving to death and began burning fat again. Yesterday I weighed 290 (down from 311 a month ago). I actually look forward to my evening walks and use them as times to think about programming problems, women I have seen that day, what I would do if I had 100 million dollars, etc. etc. I even ran a couple of blocks 2 days ago. Doesn't sound like a big deal, but I couldn't even do that a month ago. It only took 10 years to completely fall from a soldier that could run 10 miles and max my PT test to a 300+ pound couch potato who couldn't even roll over in bed without having his pulse shoot up. I blame it completely on my laziness - when I no longer had to follow military orders, I began doing nothing at all that wasn't directly related to my own hedonistic pursuits (other than going to work). So why the sudden lifestyle change? Why didn't I do it as my New years resolution? Why April? Because I saw that damn BowFlex commercial 1 time to many and I really liked the way the man looked and I remember looking a lot more like that then I currently looked. I thought for awhile and analyzed my feelings - was I currently self conscious about my weight? No. Was I frightened about my health? No. Was there some activity that I wanted to do, but couldn't do now because of my weight? No. Was I jealous of the BowFlex dude? No. So why did I experience such a major paradigm shift? I realized that I simply missed feeling good. I had slowly gotten used to always feeling sort of fuzzed out and disconnected. I finally made the obvious realization that maybe all of those perky, hyper-active bubbleheads were actually telling the truth about how alive and good you can feel when you are in top physical shape. I have a "thing" whereby I am unable to remember feelings. Maybe everyone experiences this, but the english language doesn't express the difference between remembering feelings and remembering *how* you felt very well. For me, extreme emotional experiences don't lay down memory tracks for me. I am unable to "learn" from how something made me feel. Maybe that is just part of having an "addictive" personality. I can learn from facts, but not emotions. Anyways, since I couldn't remember what "feeling good" felt like, it was as if it never happened and so I never listened when people on TV said how good you can feel when you excercise and are in shape. So, I allowed my intellect to take over and forced myself to excercis

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                Jeremy Oldham
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                Hey Terry. Congratulations on loosing some of the pounds. I am in the same boat as well. My first year of college, I played soccer everyday and weight a slim 150 pounds. 13 years later and I was up to 300 pounds. My father weighed 380 pounds and had the stomach surgery last November. He now weighs 250 and is looking great. Long story short, his weight loss got me motivated to do something about my own weight. I started about three months ago and I now weigh 263 as of this morning. Maybe we could kepp each other motivated on lossing the weight. I too would like to get below 200. Good luck! Jeremy Oldham

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