Multicultural question
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Stan Shannon wrote: Or, ironically, do we do it because we simply believe ourselves to be culturally superior to others and obligated therefore to remain morally aloof? If there is an issue about superiority then it isn't just our opinion of ourself. obviously even the arabs think we are superior - otherwise why would an entire village of them hoot and holler and raise their fists just because they shot down 1 measelly helicopter? Why would they need to drag our bodies through the streets to cheering crowds? They don't behave that way when they kill each other. They must somehow feel that killing an American is a mighty thing to do and deserving of such a triumphant display.
Glano perictu com sahni delorin!
So why do American / british soldiers celebrate their victory by abuses against prisoners ? Why nuding them ? isn't this because they believe that these prisoners have something valuable that they did not experience in their countries ? somehthing like dignity ?
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hspc wrote: Where do you get in formation about islam and how do you interpret them ? From Zionist media ? Doesn't Quran teach murder of the infidels, chopping hands of petty thieves, stoning adulterers and beheading apostates? http://freethoughts.org/wesslog/archives/2004_01.html[^]
this is the question again : how do you interpret them ? murder of the infidels when they invade muslims or forbid them from applying their religion freely. chopping hands of petty thieves because in cases they steal to get more wealth not because they need food. stoning adulterers (also not all cases) Because they really cause destructive effects on the society (look at western scieties where the term familiy will deisappear) beheading apostates: in case they try to spoil the whole society.. they are free to think as they like.
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Hi, I think democracy cannot work unless the people of society are educated in the sense of making rational choices. With most Arab countries the people have been so oppressed over the ages, they can use some outside help. I am not talking about creating a war, but help in setting up educational institutes, making people realize the potential and giving them a vision of a country with economic, social and cultural opportunities. Also, religion should be a personal thing for people. You cannot talk about a democracy and religion at the same time because one religious idea is not fit for everyone. People approach religion through their own experiences, faith and capacities. However, a democracy has to encompass all these different beliefs and make sure they co-exist. However, laws based on religious models will never work in a true democracy. People have to stop thinking in terms of Muslim countries or Christian countries or Buddhist countries etc. For things to really work out well, they all have to be able to co-exist side by side. This is the promise of a true democracy, not just in terms of religion but other aspects of society as well. My 2 cents. Best always, Pankaj Without struggle, there is no progress
It would be interesting to see a list of which countries censor and monitor internet access. I believe China is one of the worst for this. Elaine :rose: The tigress is here :-D
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hspc wrote: Where do you get in formation about islam and how do you interpret them ? From Zionist media ? Doesn't Quran teach murder of the infidels, chopping hands of petty thieves, stoning adulterers and beheading apostates? http://freethoughts.org/wesslog/archives/2004_01.html[^]
Yes, just like the good old bible, and probably many other "divine" texts. Remember, these books were written in an age when people killed eachother rather than settling a dispute with words. -- Booohoo!
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So why do American / british soldiers celebrate their victory by abuses against prisoners ? Why nuding them ? isn't this because they believe that these prisoners have something valuable that they did not experience in their countries ? somehthing like dignity ?
hspc wrote: So why do American / british soldiers celebrate their victory by abuses against prisoners ? Why nuding them ? I hope you aren't foolish enough to think that is why they are doing it. The humiulation regime is being implemented by CIA and DIA interrogators. The military MPs there are there to run the prison. They aren't the ones who decide what to do to the prisoners.