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    Christopher Duncan
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    Well, after 12 years I'm finally moving on to a new programmer's editor. I was on the beta team for versions 4.x through 6.x, but it just kept getting buggier, more bloated and in general less stable. Add to that the fact that the company du juor owning the editor has been acquired around half a dozen times over the years, with Borland being the latest owner. I finally stopped upgrading at version 6.5, as it was getting worse instead of better, and 6.5 got the job done. Called support last week and was informed that they no longer support 6.5. My boss uses Visual SlickEdit and had just upgraded to 9.0 so I thought I'd give it a try. Additionally, I found that Borland is pulling the plug on CodeWright. They're doing no new development and letting existing support contracts run their course. So, essentially, it's dead in the water. While I wear a black armband to commemorate what was once one of the premier editors, it's time to move on. Bummer, but that's life. (Same way I felt when I dropped Borland's C++ compiler and moved to VC++). Which, of course, means that it's time to customize and hot rod the new environment... So, anybody know any sites beyond the company one where I can find some neat and groovy SlickEdit macros? :-D Christopher Duncan Today's Corporate Battle Tactic Unite the Tribes: Ending Turf Wars for Career and Business Success The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World

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      Well, after 12 years I'm finally moving on to a new programmer's editor. I was on the beta team for versions 4.x through 6.x, but it just kept getting buggier, more bloated and in general less stable. Add to that the fact that the company du juor owning the editor has been acquired around half a dozen times over the years, with Borland being the latest owner. I finally stopped upgrading at version 6.5, as it was getting worse instead of better, and 6.5 got the job done. Called support last week and was informed that they no longer support 6.5. My boss uses Visual SlickEdit and had just upgraded to 9.0 so I thought I'd give it a try. Additionally, I found that Borland is pulling the plug on CodeWright. They're doing no new development and letting existing support contracts run their course. So, essentially, it's dead in the water. While I wear a black armband to commemorate what was once one of the premier editors, it's time to move on. Bummer, but that's life. (Same way I felt when I dropped Borland's C++ compiler and moved to VC++). Which, of course, means that it's time to customize and hot rod the new environment... So, anybody know any sites beyond the company one where I can find some neat and groovy SlickEdit macros? :-D Christopher Duncan Today's Corporate Battle Tactic Unite the Tribes: Ending Turf Wars for Career and Business Success The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World

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      Please share your experience with SlickEdit, or whatever else you come across. I am in the same boat as you; although I didn't really percieve CW32 as getting buggier development certainly seems stalled. Which is kind-of-OK because they never really caught-up with current GUI standards, but still it is a damn useful tool. Bernd

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        Please share your experience with SlickEdit, or whatever else you come across. I am in the same boat as you; although I didn't really percieve CW32 as getting buggier development certainly seems stalled. Which is kind-of-OK because they never really caught-up with current GUI standards, but still it is a damn useful tool. Bernd

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        Dale Thompson
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        I've been underutilizing SlickEdit for many years now (it is so loaded with features, I don't think I could ever use it to full capacity). I originally started using it while doing cross platform application development between OS/2, Windows and Unix (where they had a command line version). In the last few years, I have continued to favor it over Visual Studio. While Studio keeps getting betterm so does SLickEdit. SlickEdit supports the .NET projects very well (it can compile and even debug applications). Slickedit has GUI Java UI development tools, but these tools are not available for Microsot projects. For the most part - I develop using SlickEdit, switching back to Visual Studio only for graphical editing. It is much easier to write well structured/maintainable code in SlickEdit. The support for SlickEdit has always been excellent. I have found it to be the most valuable development tool I have ever used. Dale Thompson

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          Please share your experience with SlickEdit, or whatever else you come across. I am in the same boat as you; although I didn't really percieve CW32 as getting buggier development certainly seems stalled. Which is kind-of-OK because they never really caught-up with current GUI standards, but still it is a damn useful tool. Bernd

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          Christopher Duncan
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          Well, I've gotta say, my initial reactions are positive, and you know how programmers are about changing editors. I'm forcing myself to move from the Brief key set (I'd used Brief in the old DOS days prior to CW) to CUA, but that's self inflicted pain. The thing I like so far is that most of the editor is written in Slick-C, making it easier to tweak core functionality. I rely heavily on undo past save. However, SlickEdit throws up a dialog when you hit each save point, which I find irritating. No problem. Grepped the .e files (their macro extension) for the dialog text, found it, and commented it out. Nice. Feature wise, it's certainly on par with CW, and so far it seems stable. Integration with VC++ is also much nicer for internal building of projects. Point it at a solution file, and it just works. I'm not religious about SlickEdit yet, but if this experience continues I may have to go out and buy a tambourine soon... :) Christopher Duncan Today's Corporate Battle Tactic Unite the Tribes: Ending Turf Wars for Career and Business Success The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World

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            Well, after 12 years I'm finally moving on to a new programmer's editor. I was on the beta team for versions 4.x through 6.x, but it just kept getting buggier, more bloated and in general less stable. Add to that the fact that the company du juor owning the editor has been acquired around half a dozen times over the years, with Borland being the latest owner. I finally stopped upgrading at version 6.5, as it was getting worse instead of better, and 6.5 got the job done. Called support last week and was informed that they no longer support 6.5. My boss uses Visual SlickEdit and had just upgraded to 9.0 so I thought I'd give it a try. Additionally, I found that Borland is pulling the plug on CodeWright. They're doing no new development and letting existing support contracts run their course. So, essentially, it's dead in the water. While I wear a black armband to commemorate what was once one of the premier editors, it's time to move on. Bummer, but that's life. (Same way I felt when I dropped Borland's C++ compiler and moved to VC++). Which, of course, means that it's time to customize and hot rod the new environment... So, anybody know any sites beyond the company one where I can find some neat and groovy SlickEdit macros? :-D Christopher Duncan Today's Corporate Battle Tactic Unite the Tribes: Ending Turf Wars for Career and Business Success The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World

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            I left Codewright years ago and never looked back, way too many bugs I'm not surprised Borland is killing it. They killed my was beloved BRIEF http://www.lazyhacker.com/slickedit/forum/index.php is nice site I've written an extension dll that allows you to trigger a Visual Studio .NET build and look things up in the helps. if you're interested. E-mail me and I'll send it to you gb

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              I left Codewright years ago and never looked back, way too many bugs I'm not surprised Borland is killing it. They killed my was beloved BRIEF http://www.lazyhacker.com/slickedit/forum/index.php is nice site I've written an extension dll that allows you to trigger a Visual Studio .NET build and look things up in the helps. if you're interested. E-mail me and I'll send it to you gb

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              Allen Anderson
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              I'm still hacked off about the loss of brief. I configure VS.net as closely to brief as I can with certain commands but its hard without the editor right there. I started using Brief (from underware of course) back in 1989. People who never used Brief have no idea how easy editing could be. VS.net default keystrokes are made more to be compatible with windows instead of being the most efficient for programming. Therefore with vs.net you end up making a lot of extra keystrokes. Every time I see a ms rep at a tradeshow I complain about the loss of brief emulation in vs.net. :)

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                Well, after 12 years I'm finally moving on to a new programmer's editor. I was on the beta team for versions 4.x through 6.x, but it just kept getting buggier, more bloated and in general less stable. Add to that the fact that the company du juor owning the editor has been acquired around half a dozen times over the years, with Borland being the latest owner. I finally stopped upgrading at version 6.5, as it was getting worse instead of better, and 6.5 got the job done. Called support last week and was informed that they no longer support 6.5. My boss uses Visual SlickEdit and had just upgraded to 9.0 so I thought I'd give it a try. Additionally, I found that Borland is pulling the plug on CodeWright. They're doing no new development and letting existing support contracts run their course. So, essentially, it's dead in the water. While I wear a black armband to commemorate what was once one of the premier editors, it's time to move on. Bummer, but that's life. (Same way I felt when I dropped Borland's C++ compiler and moved to VC++). Which, of course, means that it's time to customize and hot rod the new environment... So, anybody know any sites beyond the company one where I can find some neat and groovy SlickEdit macros? :-D Christopher Duncan Today's Corporate Battle Tactic Unite the Tribes: Ending Turf Wars for Career and Business Success The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World

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                You might want to check sourceinsight/[^]. Started to use it about a year ago, fantastic! .Henrik --- There are 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                  You might want to check sourceinsight/[^]. Started to use it about a year ago, fantastic! .Henrik --- There are 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                  Christopher Duncan
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                  Well, I've already spent the money on a new editor at this point, but that looks like a nice app. Be interesting to see how well they do as the product matures. Christopher Duncan Today's Corporate Battle Tactic Unite the Tribes: Ending Turf Wars for Career and Business Success The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World

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                    Well, I've already spent the money on a new editor at this point, but that looks like a nice app. Be interesting to see how well they do as the product matures. Christopher Duncan Today's Corporate Battle Tactic Unite the Tribes: Ending Turf Wars for Career and Business Success The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World

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                    I need to make a blatant plug for my programmer's editor ED for Windows. The Source Database and code navigation features are "how did I ever live without that" productivity features. And that's just the beggining.:cool: You can download a free trial from www.getsoft.com[^] I've just released a new version today with full Source Browser support for typedef's and unamed enum's etc. This will be in the public download area tommorrow. And FYI ED has been around as long as CodeWright and is under continual development. We don't have the resources of these large companies though. Neville Franks, Author of ED for Windows www.getsoft.com and coming soon: Surfulater www.surfulater.com

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                      I need to make a blatant plug for my programmer's editor ED for Windows. The Source Database and code navigation features are "how did I ever live without that" productivity features. And that's just the beggining.:cool: You can download a free trial from www.getsoft.com[^] I've just released a new version today with full Source Browser support for typedef's and unamed enum's etc. This will be in the public download area tommorrow. And FYI ED has been around as long as CodeWright and is under continual development. We don't have the resources of these large companies though. Neville Franks, Author of ED for Windows www.getsoft.com and coming soon: Surfulater www.surfulater.com

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                      Neville Franks wrote: I need to make a blatant plug for my programmer's editor ED for Windows. I'd already spent the money and configured SlickEdit, but your stuff looks cool, man. I'm sure you'll continue to enjoy success with it! Christopher Duncan Today's Corporate Battle Tactic Unite the Tribes: Ending Turf Wars for Career and Business Success The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World

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