On to VB
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from an online tutorial: Designing an attractive and user friendly interface should be the first step in constructing a VB program I think I need to look elsewhere. :sigh: BW The Biggest Loser
"And then one day you find ten years have got behind you
No one told you when to run, you missed the starting gun"That's obviously a typo. It should read: Deciding against this ridiculous endeavour should be the first step in constructing a VB program. ;P
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:sigh: VB6. BW The Biggest Loser
"And then one day you find ten years have got behind you
No one told you when to run, you missed the starting gun"Ewwwww I am a hard core VBer and I don;t even like V6 anymore... I would be lost if I had to go back.
Paul Watson wrote: "At the end of the day it is what you produce that counts, not how many doctorates you have on the wall." George Carlin wrote: "Don't sweat the petty things, and don't pet the sweaty things." Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: If the physicists find a universal theory describing the laws of universe, I'm sure the asshole constant will be an integral part of that theory.
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At least tell me it's VB.NET... if it's VB 6 (or older), I'll still say, "Run, Brian!! Run the other way, and do it quickly, man!!" :-D "Fish and guests stink in three days." - Benjamin Franlkin
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brianwelsch wrote: Designing an attractive and user friendly interface should be the first step in constructing a VB program In all fairness, there are situations where the design is UI-driven. However, tying these situations to a programming language is silly. Some VB programs have no UI at all (i.e. COM+ components). On the other hand some C++/C#/whatever programs are "UI heavy".
Nemanja Trifunovic wrote: In all fairness, there are situations where the design is UI-driven. I do a lot of my smaller projects this way. I'll draw sketches on paper of what I want it to look like, and then figure out what code I need to put in place to get the result.
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Well, I'm starting on my next task and language (3rd language in 2 years). Our front end is done in VB and my product is finally getting a GUI. I know what many are thinking. "Run, Brian!! Run the other way, and do it quickly, man!!" But, truth be told, the change for me is from Assembly to VB so I'm happy about it for the most part. Wish me well. BW The Biggest Loser
"And then one day you find ten years have got behind you
No one told you when to run, you missed the starting gun"brianwelsch wrote: change for me is from Assembly to VB That's gonna hurt... cheers, Chris Maunder
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Paul Watson wrote: VB.NET is evil, VB6- has it's place. The trash can comes to mind. :) All "managed" languages suck but VB is really bad. Dim Damn as double Richard "He who joyfully marches in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would suffice. --Albert Einstein
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Remember the first rule of modern production software. It doesn't matter if it actually works - that can be fixed in a later version that we can charge more for - but it must look like it's working. To Marketing, a great GUI is essential, all else is fluff. Some people think of it as a six-pack; I consider it more of a support group.
Actually I could endlessly disagree with you here, but I'll just say that a program that the users don't *think* is easy to use is a program that doesn't get sold. And we *always* start the design process from the users point of view and work backwards and it's worked *very* well for us. Of course it has to work and work well, but impressions and usability are about everything in general release software.
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brianwelsch wrote: change for me is from Assembly to VB That's gonna hurt... cheers, Chris Maunder
I'm destined to be able to stumble through a variety of languages, but not be fluent in any one in particular. :sigh: BW The Biggest Loser
"And then one day you find ten years have got behind you
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Well, I'm starting on my next task and language (3rd language in 2 years). Our front end is done in VB and my product is finally getting a GUI. I know what many are thinking. "Run, Brian!! Run the other way, and do it quickly, man!!" But, truth be told, the change for me is from Assembly to VB so I'm happy about it for the most part. Wish me well. BW The Biggest Loser
"And then one day you find ten years have got behind you
No one told you when to run, you missed the starting gun"VB does bite, but it's the "language" that runs our beloved CP, so it has to ... uhumm ... get some repect I suppose. Cheers, Simon sig ::
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Well, I'm starting on my next task and language (3rd language in 2 years). Our front end is done in VB and my product is finally getting a GUI. I know what many are thinking. "Run, Brian!! Run the other way, and do it quickly, man!!" But, truth be told, the change for me is from Assembly to VB so I'm happy about it for the most part. Wish me well. BW The Biggest Loser
"And then one day you find ten years have got behind you
No one told you when to run, you missed the starting gun"Hey, don't sweat the VB thing. Sure, you can program VB like a toy language, but that's no fun! ;) Check out some books to help you take your VB development to the next level. There are some great ones out there, and the following list are some publications that I've found to be extremely beneficial, and are sort of my "Desert Island VB Books" (most of these can be purchased used for under $20, and some for under $10), which I have come to rely on over the last few years: :bob: Effective Visual Basic[^], Developmentor Series, Ted Pattison, et al. :bob: Dan Appleman's Visual Basic Programmer's Guide to the Win32 API[^] by Dan Appleman (a must-have if you're going to use the Win32 API, which happens when you run into VB6's inherent limitations) :bob: Visual Basic Design Patterns VB 6.0 and VB.NET[^] by James Cooper :bob: Doing Objects in Visual Basic[^] by Deborah Kurata (a.k.a. "Debbie Does Objects" ;) ) :bob: Programming Distributed Applications With Com & Microsoft Visual Basic 6.0[^] by Ted Pattison (a very important book if you're going to be working extensively with COM or COM+/MTS) The following books get honorable mention because they contain really useful information, but I'm including them separately because they're basically out-of-print (but you can still get them in the used section for under $10): :bob: Advanced Visual Basic 6.0[^] by Peter Morris, et al. :bob: Hardcore Visual Basic[
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Hey, don't sweat the VB thing. Sure, you can program VB like a toy language, but that's no fun! ;) Check out some books to help you take your VB development to the next level. There are some great ones out there, and the following list are some publications that I've found to be extremely beneficial, and are sort of my "Desert Island VB Books" (most of these can be purchased used for under $20, and some for under $10), which I have come to rely on over the last few years: :bob: Effective Visual Basic[^], Developmentor Series, Ted Pattison, et al. :bob: Dan Appleman's Visual Basic Programmer's Guide to the Win32 API[^] by Dan Appleman (a must-have if you're going to use the Win32 API, which happens when you run into VB6's inherent limitations) :bob: Visual Basic Design Patterns VB 6.0 and VB.NET[^] by James Cooper :bob: Doing Objects in Visual Basic[^] by Deborah Kurata (a.k.a. "Debbie Does Objects" ;) ) :bob: Programming Distributed Applications With Com & Microsoft Visual Basic 6.0[^] by Ted Pattison (a very important book if you're going to be working extensively with COM or COM+/MTS) The following books get honorable mention because they contain really useful information, but I'm including them separately because they're basically out-of-print (but you can still get them in the used section for under $10): :bob: Advanced Visual Basic 6.0[^] by Peter Morris, et al. :bob: Hardcore Visual Basic[
Evan Stone wrote: Hey, don't sweat the VB thing. No sweat here! I'm looking forward to doing something other than assembly. Anything but assembly! I'll actually be integrating the back end (assembly) and the front end(VB) later this year, but I want to start getting my feet wet so I'm not stuck because of ignorance during the crunch. Thanks for the info, Evan. :cool: Best of luck with your new assignment, too. :) BW The Biggest Loser
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