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Darth Siduous = Palpitine. The Emperor's name is Palpitine, if you read any of the Star Wars source material from George Lucas. The Emporer is Darth Vader's Master Darth Siduous is Darth Vader's Master Therefore, Darth Siduous is Palpitine. When religion and politics help drive the same cart, they tend to drive faster and faster until it is too late to stop when they see the cliff ahead -- Frank Herbert.
Darth Vader's master is Palpatine, but Sidious was Darth Maul's master - and later Palpatine's (Ep 3 (?!?) I suppose). Palpatine becomes the new master after Sidious dies. Go see http://www.starwars.com/databank/. "A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one." - Senator Palpatine
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No, they are not the same - see http://www.starwars.com/databank/. "A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one." - Senator Palpatine
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Darth Vader's master is Palpatine, but Sidious was Darth Maul's master - and later Palpatine's (Ep 3 (?!?) I suppose). Palpatine becomes the new master after Sidious dies. Go see http://www.starwars.com/databank/. "A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one." - Senator Palpatine
Saying that Palpatine becomes the new master after Sidious dies is akin to me saying that they are one and the same. Neither of us can be sure whether or not Senator Palpatine is actually Darth Sidious or not. While George Lucas takes great pains to hint to the audience in The Phantom Menace that they are one and the same (at Qui-Gon's funeral when the Jedi speculate as to the identity of Darth Sidious, and the camera pans to Palpatine... etc), he could be just setting the audience up for a huge plot twist, along the order of "Luke, I am your father..." What led me to believe that they are the same was because of the clues that were dropped in Episode I (although again, they could just be a set up), and the fact that the same actor (Ian McDiarmid) plays both Darth Sidious and Senator Palpatine in Episode I. However, until we find out in Episode II or III, none of us can be sure. Therefore, it does no good for either side to portray their opinion as fact.
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No, they are not the same - see http://www.starwars.com/databank/. "A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one." - Senator Palpatine
Been there, read that. There is nothing conclusive in the databanks that supports your theory. There is nothing either way. We'll meet back after EP III 4 some odd years from now and compare notes, ok.:) When religion and politics help drive the same cart, they tend to drive faster and faster until it is too late to stop when they see the cliff ahead -- Frank Herbert.
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Saying that Palpatine becomes the new master after Sidious dies is akin to me saying that they are one and the same. Neither of us can be sure whether or not Senator Palpatine is actually Darth Sidious or not. While George Lucas takes great pains to hint to the audience in The Phantom Menace that they are one and the same (at Qui-Gon's funeral when the Jedi speculate as to the identity of Darth Sidious, and the camera pans to Palpatine... etc), he could be just setting the audience up for a huge plot twist, along the order of "Luke, I am your father..." What led me to believe that they are the same was because of the clues that were dropped in Episode I (although again, they could just be a set up), and the fact that the same actor (Ian McDiarmid) plays both Darth Sidious and Senator Palpatine in Episode I. However, until we find out in Episode II or III, none of us can be sure. Therefore, it does no good for either side to portray their opinion as fact.
It is not my opinion - watch Ep 1. Darth Sidious and Palpatine are both there, and they are seperate people. And you could check out the link I gave you... "A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one." - Senator Palpatine
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It is not my opinion - watch Ep 1. Darth Sidious and Palpatine are both there, and they are seperate people. And you could check out the link I gave you... "A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one." - Senator Palpatine
I did check out the link, but found no information that would support your argument. Sure, in that database, Palpatine and Sidious are mentioned as separate entities in the character lists and descriptions, but I believe this to be purposeful, so as not to reveal the answer to the biggest question from Episode I. Furthmore, in Episode I, when are Sidious and Palpatine ever in the same scene together?
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I did check out the link, but found no information that would support your argument. Sure, in that database, Palpatine and Sidious are mentioned as separate entities in the character lists and descriptions, but I believe this to be purposeful, so as not to reveal the answer to the biggest question from Episode I. Furthmore, in Episode I, when are Sidious and Palpatine ever in the same scene together?
I have conclusive evidence from the databank: The entry for Palpatine: Homeworld: Naboo; Species: Human; Gender: Male; Height: 1.73 meters; Weapon: Dark-side lightning; Vehicle: Imperial shuttle; Affiliation: Empire, Sith The entry for Sidious, Darth: Homeworld: Unknown; Species: Unknown; Gender: Male; Height: 1.78 meters; Weapon: Darth Maul; Affiliation: Sith See any difference? "A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one." - Senator Palpatine
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I have conclusive evidence from the databank: The entry for Palpatine: Homeworld: Naboo; Species: Human; Gender: Male; Height: 1.73 meters; Weapon: Dark-side lightning; Vehicle: Imperial shuttle; Affiliation: Empire, Sith The entry for Sidious, Darth: Homeworld: Unknown; Species: Unknown; Gender: Male; Height: 1.78 meters; Weapon: Darth Maul; Affiliation: Sith See any difference? "A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one." - Senator Palpatine
While you do have a good point, I must draw upon a previous post of yours not to dispute your claim but to prove that neither of us can know for sure. "Darth Vader's master is Palpatine, but Sidious was Darth Maul's master - and later Palpatine's (Ep 3 (?!?) I suppose). Palpatine becomes the new master after Sidious dies." Something bothered me about that post, but I didn't realize until just now. It violates the major tenet of the Sith, which is that there can be only two Sith in existence at any time. That is a fact. Starting with Darth Bane after the near destruction of the Sith, there have only been two at any given time for the 1000 years preceeding the events in Episode I, at his decree. In Episodes 4,5,6 there were only two Sith as well. It is only reasonable to assume that the Sith held to this major tenet of their "faith." Therefore, Palpatine, Darth Sidious, and Darth Maul could not all exist at the same time. Furthermore, the folks at starwars.com have done a great job avoiding all questions pertaining to this debate - for obvious reasons: they don't want people to know until episode II or III. Hope this helps.
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While you do have a good point, I must draw upon a previous post of yours not to dispute your claim but to prove that neither of us can know for sure. "Darth Vader's master is Palpatine, but Sidious was Darth Maul's master - and later Palpatine's (Ep 3 (?!?) I suppose). Palpatine becomes the new master after Sidious dies." Something bothered me about that post, but I didn't realize until just now. It violates the major tenet of the Sith, which is that there can be only two Sith in existence at any time. That is a fact. Starting with Darth Bane after the near destruction of the Sith, there have only been two at any given time for the 1000 years preceeding the events in Episode I, at his decree. In Episodes 4,5,6 there were only two Sith as well. It is only reasonable to assume that the Sith held to this major tenet of their "faith." Therefore, Palpatine, Darth Sidious, and Darth Maul could not all exist at the same time. Furthermore, the folks at starwars.com have done a great job avoiding all questions pertaining to this debate - for obvious reasons: they don't want people to know until episode II or III. Hope this helps.
You also need to remember that Lucas' goal with regards to the series ( all 6 films ) is that they will be able to be watched from I to VI and be complete. That is future viewers who have never seen the films will start with episode I and continue from there. A viewer in that situation, wouldn't know about the emperor, or Darth Vader, so the later revelation that Darth Siduous is the emperor will be stunning. Unfortunately, they will also lose the shock that Vader was Luke's father and that Leia is his sister. Because in EP 3, we will see obi-Wan leaving with the Twins. When religion and politics help drive the same cart, they tend to drive faster and faster until it is too late to stop when they see the cliff ahead -- Frank Herbert.
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While you do have a good point, I must draw upon a previous post of yours not to dispute your claim but to prove that neither of us can know for sure. "Darth Vader's master is Palpatine, but Sidious was Darth Maul's master - and later Palpatine's (Ep 3 (?!?) I suppose). Palpatine becomes the new master after Sidious dies." Something bothered me about that post, but I didn't realize until just now. It violates the major tenet of the Sith, which is that there can be only two Sith in existence at any time. That is a fact. Starting with Darth Bane after the near destruction of the Sith, there have only been two at any given time for the 1000 years preceeding the events in Episode I, at his decree. In Episodes 4,5,6 there were only two Sith as well. It is only reasonable to assume that the Sith held to this major tenet of their "faith." Therefore, Palpatine, Darth Sidious, and Darth Maul could not all exist at the same time. Furthermore, the folks at starwars.com have done a great job avoiding all questions pertaining to this debate - for obvious reasons: they don't want people to know until episode II or III. Hope this helps.
Ahem, I believe this reply gets the prize for having the longest time gap :rolleyes:. I am writing this because it seems you are right, Palpatine is Sidious. Don't ask me how I know about it, Mr. Lucas has told me to keep quiet.:-D So... you get the prize. Here it is:
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