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  • W wrykyn

    Was on tenterhooks all morning. Luckily we escaped with the draw. Not bad compared to some of the other starts we've had in recent major tournaments (no I'm not thinking about Korea 2002, the nightmares have only just stopped). I cannot believe there is no telecast of this thing in the US :(( Bought a $15 account on real networks (Its not like I had a choice) so I'll atleast be able to watch the video highlights when I get off work in the evening "I believe I referred to her personality as a potential science exhibit." - Elaine, about Ellen, in "The Dog"

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    Ramanan Sivan wrote: I cannot believe there is no telecast of this thing in the US http://www.soccertv.com/foxwo.cfm[^]
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      Ramanan Sivan wrote: And the quality of play is much better...seriously I'm sure it is, but it's still about as exciting as watching paint dry. "President Bush has promised he's going to establish elections in Iraq, he's going to rebuild the infrastructure and he's going to create jobs. And he said if it works there, he'll try it here." David Letterman

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      Happy to disagree. :) "I believe I referred to her personality as a potential science exhibit." - Elaine, about Ellen, in "The Dog"

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        Ramanan Sivan wrote: I cannot believe there is no telecast of this thing in the US You must not have been in the US very long. ;) You may have to resort to Spanish stations (Telemundo and Univision) for soccer coverage. --Mike-- Personal stuff:: Ericahist | Homepage Shareware stuff:: 1ClickPicGrabber | RightClick-Encrypt CP stuff:: CP SearchBar v2.0.2 | C++ Forum FAQ ---- Pinky, are you pondering what I'm pondering? I think so Brain, but how will we fit the hamster inside the accordion?

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        Ive been here about two years. Michael Dunn wrote: to Spanish stations I know. I have dish 100. They said they would have to change all my programming to get me the futbol (:)) at a reasonable rate. I'm so rabid I'd have taken it and watched only football...but my roomates would've killed me. So living by watching on the net. "I believe I referred to her personality as a potential science exhibit." - Elaine, about Ellen, in "The Dog"

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          Fox Sports World is also good for soccer. You just have to cross your fingers and hope that they don't have that absurd Aussie Rules Football stuff on. I caught a good bit of EPL play because I get Fox Sports World on campus. I've been dying without it now that I'm home for the summer, though. Those rare MLS games that you catch on TV on the major networks are just too painful after watching EPL. I've been making up for it by playing soccer 3-4 times a week.

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          thespiff wrote: Those rare MLS games that you catch on TV on the major networks are just too painful after watching EPL. You said it ! I remember last year in the Champions League they showed the first match of the second leg of the semifinals (Milan-Inter 1-1) and when I was waiting lip smacking next day for the second leg of Real-Juve (a cracking match in the end) they showed something like horse racing or something :(( "I believe I referred to her personality as a potential science exhibit." - Elaine, about Ellen, in "The Dog"

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          • D David Wulff

            Yeah, everyone knows baseball is just rounders but you get to dress up in protective gear. :)


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            Laugh Laugh. I would like to see a cricket batter ( paddler ?) try to hit a major league curve ball with that silly little paddle thingey they use. Even bigger laughs would be had to see them try to hit a really good fastball ( 96-100 MPH). Its a thinking mans game and I would not expect someone that doesn't know the game to understand. i have a friend that is a big rugby fan - he actually thinks that some of those poor little rugby players could make it in the NFL. Now that would be a sight to see. Ugly but still ....... Richard "He who joyfully marches in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would suffice. --Albert Einstein

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            • K Kant

              Ramanan Sivan wrote: I cannot believe there is no telecast of this thing in the US http://www.soccertv.com/foxwo.cfm[^]
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              Hey thanks a ton for that ! I'll check it out tonite. "I believe I referred to her personality as a potential science exhibit." - Elaine, about Ellen, in "The Dog"

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              • K Kasper Bo Larsen

                We ain't happy with that result, 2 - 1 would have been a fair result, but then again, football ain't fair :-) Kasper ( Odense, Denmark)

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                Kasper Bo Larsen wrote: football ain't fair neither is life :) Atleast neither of us was disappointed by an undeserved late winner (undeserved for either side to be fair) "I believe I referred to her personality as a potential science exhibit." - Elaine, about Ellen, in "The Dog"

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                  Ramanan Sivan wrote: I cannot believe there is no telecast of this thing in the US We Americans need action! There isn't enough scoring in soccer to hold our attention. Notice that the other sports Americans watch involve frequent scoring (basketball, football, etc.) Hockey can get by with lower scores because there's usually a lot of fighting to hold our attention. :) "Fish and guests stink in three days." - Benjamin Franlkin

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                  Navin wrote: Hockey can get by with lower scores because there's usually a lot of fighting to hold our attention. What's up with that ?! That's the only game I've seen in which people stand by and watch (refrees and players) while two guys "go" at each other. Is it like a part of the game ?!:omg: "I believe I referred to her personality as a potential science exhibit." - Elaine, about Ellen, in "The Dog"

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                    Laugh Laugh. I would like to see a cricket batter ( paddler ?) try to hit a major league curve ball with that silly little paddle thingey they use. Even bigger laughs would be had to see them try to hit a really good fastball ( 96-100 MPH). Its a thinking mans game and I would not expect someone that doesn't know the game to understand. i have a friend that is a big rugby fan - he actually thinks that some of those poor little rugby players could make it in the NFL. Now that would be a sight to see. Ugly but still ....... Richard "He who joyfully marches in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would suffice. --Albert Einstein

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                    Richard Stringer wrote: really good fastball ( 96-100 MPH) I like both games :) (so don't flame me....I understand you're raging...I'd be the same way if someone said something about soccer) Just for the record .. there are some bowlers in cricket that bowl as fast as 98 mph "I believe I referred to her personality as a potential science exhibit." - Elaine, about Ellen, in "The Dog"

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                    • K Kant

                      Ramanan Sivan wrote: I cannot believe there is no telecast of this thing in the US Soccer is like a child in the US sports market (NFL, MLB, NBA, NHL) IMO, Americans need quick action(MLB, NBA), if action is not that fast then they need violence. (NFL, NHL) That's one reason Cricket will be never popular in US. Ramanan Sivan wrote: Bought a $15 account on real networks (Its not like I had a choice) so I'll atleast be able to watch the video highlights when I get off work in the evening What's the URL for the webcast?
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                      http://www.euro2004.com/video/landingpage.html[^] has a link to the page that has the highlights. I've had their Champions League account all year so I can vouch for the reliability. If you just want audio commentary BBC carries it live for most games on Radio Five Live. (but my feed was interrupted yest in the middle of the match and in a fit of desperation I bought this) "I believe I referred to her personality as a potential science exhibit." - Elaine, about Ellen, in "The Dog"

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                        Ramanan Sivan wrote: I cannot believe there is no telecast of this thing in the US We don't watch when Americans play soccer, why would we watch Europeans play?? :confused: ;P "President Bush has promised he's going to establish elections in Iraq, he's going to rebuild the infrastructure and he's going to create jobs. And he said if it works there, he'll try it here." David Letterman

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                        Mike Mullikin wrote: We don't watch when Americans play soccer, why would we watch Europeans play?? Maybe that is because American soccer sucks :) Pankaj Without struggle, there is no progress

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                          Fox Sports World is also good for soccer. You just have to cross your fingers and hope that they don't have that absurd Aussie Rules Football stuff on. I caught a good bit of EPL play because I get Fox Sports World on campus. I've been dying without it now that I'm home for the summer, though. Those rare MLS games that you catch on TV on the major networks are just too painful after watching EPL. I've been making up for it by playing soccer 3-4 times a week.

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                          thespiff wrote: that absurd Aussie Rules Football stuff Heh, I remember back when ESPN was just starting up, they would show that a lot. Being a young tyke I was easily entertained by it. ;) ESPN had a lot of weird stuff on when they had to fill up air time. I remember seeing darts even. :omg: --Mike-- Personal stuff:: Ericahist | Homepage Shareware stuff:: 1ClickPicGrabber | RightClick-Encrypt CP stuff:: CP SearchBar v2.0.2 | C++ Forum FAQ ---- Pinky, are you pondering what I'm pondering? I think so Brain, but if we shaved our heads, we'd look like weasels!

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                            Mike Mullikin wrote: We don't watch when Americans play soccer, why would we watch Europeans play?? Maybe that is because American soccer sucks :) Pankaj Without struggle, there is no progress

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                            pankajdaga wrote: Maybe that is because American soccer sucks Be thankful that Americans don't like soccer... otherwise we'd commercialize it to a point to make everyone hate it. ;) "President Bush has promised he's going to establish elections in Iraq, he's going to rebuild the infrastructure and he's going to create jobs. And he said if it works there, he'll try it here." David Letterman

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                              pankajdaga wrote: Maybe that is because American soccer sucks Be thankful that Americans don't like soccer... otherwise we'd commercialize it to a point to make everyone hate it. ;) "President Bush has promised he's going to establish elections in Iraq, he's going to rebuild the infrastructure and he's going to create jobs. And he said if it works there, he'll try it here." David Letterman

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                              Mike Mullikin wrote: Be thankful that Americans don't like soccer... otherwise we'd commercialize it to a point to make everyone hate it. Oh, that's already happened for some of us anyway :-) So far for the current championship, we've had adverts (or commercial references) for: Lager Coke Crisps Burgers Football shirts Mobile phones Newspapers CDs of football songs Chocolate Vespa motorcycles Video games Along with all the endlessly boring footage and commentary. Bugger that - I didn't even watch the England match


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                                Kasper Bo Larsen wrote: To me it looks like a less formal version of Cricket If so then you have NO IDEA what baseball is about. Richard "He who joyfully marches in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would suffice. --Albert Einstein

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                                i went to my first baseball game yesterday wow it rocked!!! what a fantastic way to spend a sunny sunday afternoon :)


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                                  Kasper Bo Larsen wrote: To me it looks like a less formal version of Cricket If so then you have NO IDEA what baseball is about. Richard "He who joyfully marches in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would suffice. --Albert Einstein

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                                  Richard Stringer wrote: If so then you have NO IDEA what baseball is about. It's about organ music isn't it? Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So i had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash 24/04/2004

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                                    Laugh Laugh. I would like to see a cricket batter ( paddler ?) try to hit a major league curve ball with that silly little paddle thingey they use. Even bigger laughs would be had to see them try to hit a really good fastball ( 96-100 MPH). Its a thinking mans game and I would not expect someone that doesn't know the game to understand. i have a friend that is a big rugby fan - he actually thinks that some of those poor little rugby players could make it in the NFL. Now that would be a sight to see. Ugly but still ....... Richard "He who joyfully marches in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would suffice. --Albert Einstein

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                                    Richard Stringer wrote: Laugh Laugh. I would like to see a cricket batter ( paddler ?) try to hit a major league curve ball with that silly little paddle thingey they use. Even bigger laughs would be had to see them try to hit a really good fastball ( 96-100 MPH). I would say it wouldn't be a problem if we get any Test level (international/country rep) batsmen. It may take a couple of hours to get used to the fact the ball comes through on the full instead of bouncing first. Also the fact the pitcher can only pitch it into a windows a couple of feet square. Meaning they only have to concentrate on a small area knowing it will be coming through there. Batsmen in cricket face bowlers about 60 feet away bowling at about 95MPH for the fastest bowlers in the world. These bowlers can pitch the ball anywhere from the feet (which has resulted in broken toes) to halfway down the pitch with the express aim of hitting the batsmen in the head (broken jaws and concussion have resulted). There is none of this protection for the batsmen by the rules as seen in baseball. Richard Stringer wrote: i have a friend that is a big rugby fan - he actually thinks that some of those poor little rugby players could make it in the NFL. Now that would be a sight to see. Ugly but still ....... Outside of a longer period of time required to come to terms with the rules/strategies and the fact you only need play 2-3 minutes at a time before a long rest on the sideline Rugby elite would do it. Our players don't need the padding and the only reason they max out at around 260 pound instead of 400 is they are required to play oofence and defence. If you got to accelerate your fat arse upwards and then forwards for for say 2-3 feet like the offensive/defensive tackle then more sumo stomachs would be found on the Rugby League/Union field. As a comparison our big players are around 260 pound our smallest are around 150. When a 260 pounder runs full tilt at the 150 pounder the little man lines him up and takes the legs out from under him front on. Any similar comparisons from the NFL? Bits I've seen on TV over here shows that once the running back (?) gets past the main defence the rest of the defending team can't tackle for shit. Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So i had to l

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                                      thespiff wrote: that absurd Aussie Rules Football stuff Heh, I remember back when ESPN was just starting up, they would show that a lot. Being a young tyke I was easily entertained by it. ;) ESPN had a lot of weird stuff on when they had to fill up air time. I remember seeing darts even. :omg: --Mike-- Personal stuff:: Ericahist | Homepage Shareware stuff:: 1ClickPicGrabber | RightClick-Encrypt CP stuff:: CP SearchBar v2.0.2 | C++ Forum FAQ ---- Pinky, are you pondering what I'm pondering? I think so Brain, but if we shaved our heads, we'd look like weasels!

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                                      Michael Dunn wrote: Heh, I remember back when ESPN was just starting up, they would show that a lot. Being a young tyke I was easily entertained by it. Aside from it's pathetically inconsistent interpretation of what constitutes a tackle, just what is wron with Aussie Rules? :-D (Although they have been expanding the game into other parts of Australia it really is only rabidly followed and played by the southern states. Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So i had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash 24/04/2004

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                                        Kasper Bo Larsen wrote: football ain't fair neither is life :) Atleast neither of us was disappointed by an undeserved late winner (undeserved for either side to be fair) "I believe I referred to her personality as a potential science exhibit." - Elaine, about Ellen, in "The Dog"

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                                        Ramanan Sivan wrote: an undeserved late winner Like France? :) Weiye Chen When pursuing your dreams, don't forget to enjoy your life...

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                                          Richard Stringer wrote: Laugh Laugh. I would like to see a cricket batter ( paddler ?) try to hit a major league curve ball with that silly little paddle thingey they use. Even bigger laughs would be had to see them try to hit a really good fastball ( 96-100 MPH). I would say it wouldn't be a problem if we get any Test level (international/country rep) batsmen. It may take a couple of hours to get used to the fact the ball comes through on the full instead of bouncing first. Also the fact the pitcher can only pitch it into a windows a couple of feet square. Meaning they only have to concentrate on a small area knowing it will be coming through there. Batsmen in cricket face bowlers about 60 feet away bowling at about 95MPH for the fastest bowlers in the world. These bowlers can pitch the ball anywhere from the feet (which has resulted in broken toes) to halfway down the pitch with the express aim of hitting the batsmen in the head (broken jaws and concussion have resulted). There is none of this protection for the batsmen by the rules as seen in baseball. Richard Stringer wrote: i have a friend that is a big rugby fan - he actually thinks that some of those poor little rugby players could make it in the NFL. Now that would be a sight to see. Ugly but still ....... Outside of a longer period of time required to come to terms with the rules/strategies and the fact you only need play 2-3 minutes at a time before a long rest on the sideline Rugby elite would do it. Our players don't need the padding and the only reason they max out at around 260 pound instead of 400 is they are required to play oofence and defence. If you got to accelerate your fat arse upwards and then forwards for for say 2-3 feet like the offensive/defensive tackle then more sumo stomachs would be found on the Rugby League/Union field. As a comparison our big players are around 260 pound our smallest are around 150. When a 260 pounder runs full tilt at the 150 pounder the little man lines him up and takes the legs out from under him front on. Any similar comparisons from the NFL? Bits I've seen on TV over here shows that once the running back (?) gets past the main defence the rest of the defending team can't tackle for shit. Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So i had to l

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                                          Michael Martin wrote: Also the fact the pitcher can only pitch it into a windows a couple of feet square. Meaning they only have to concentrate on a small area knowing it will be coming through there. As one who in my youth had great aspirations of playing pro baseball ( I actually had a big league tryout and was told to keepm my day job ) you don't know how funny this sounds. I would wager a decent college or high school pitcher would simply throw the ball past ANY cricket player out there. It has been said by many that the hardest single thing to do in sports is to hit a major league fastball. There is a lot of money - A LOT - involved - and if any cricket player(s) had ANY talent along these lines the major league scouts would be all over them. Same thing with the cricket pitchers ( bowlers ). Believe what you want but it ain't gonna happen. Michael Martin wrote: As a comparison our big players are around 260 pound our smallest are around 150. When a 260 pounder runs full tilt at the 150 pounder the little man lines him up and takes the legs out from under him front on. Any similar comparisons from the NFL? Bits I've seen on TV over here shows that once the running back (?) gets past the main defence the rest of the defending team can't tackle for sh*t. The degree of athleticism between the 2 sports is amazing. Our 200-250 lb running backs run in the area of 4.4 seconds for the 40 yd dash. Pretty close to Olympic speed. Some of our 250-300 lb linebackers can come pretty close to that speed. There are very few FAT NFL players - they just look that way. A rugby team would be lucky to have anyone onn their team left uninjured after 3 - 4 min of play -pads or no pads. If a 150 lb anything tries to cut the feet out from under a NFL quality linebacker or running back the only question would be who notifies the next of kin nand where the body goes. It is another level my man - another level. You would have to play it to see what I mean. Richard "He who joyfully marches in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would suffice. --Albert Einstein

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