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  • P peterchen

    After a batch of interviews, the second most notable thing is that where both ++i and i++ are possible, all candidates used i++ Having optimizied for older compilers I automatically opt for the "simpler" concept of ++i except where I explicitely need the postfix increment. (I now that it makes no difference to today's compilers, but it might still save some microseconds when compiling :rolleyes: ) so - Vote 5 if it's for(int i=0; i<n; ++i) , and Vote 1 if it's for(int i=0; i<n; i++) for you. if the "programming" in the title triggers a pawlowian in you, please vote 3


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    John M Drescher
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    I rarely use ++i because then I would have to take a few seconds to think on which order things are executed... John

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      In terms of compiler optimization intelligence, I think we've finally surpassed the smarts of the VAX FORTRAN compiler of the late 80's. A human being could not write code that was more efficient than what that compiler generated.


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      • J John M Drescher

        I rarely use ++i because then I would have to take a few seconds to think on which order things are executed... John

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        Jonathan de Halleux
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        I use foreach. :) Jonathan de Halleux - My Blog

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        • R Rick York

          I wish there was a neither option. I try to avoid both and use i += 1. Two reasons : I wrote a scripting engine and I saw little reason for the ++ and -- operators and did not include them. This got me into the habit of using the += and -= operators which I did include. Second reason - if, for some odd reason, the incrementer needs to change to a 2 it is easier. Actually, a macro or "const int" value for the incrementer is a better way to go which I prefer to use along with the += and -= operators. Bottom line - I prefer the += method to be as consistent as possible but that's just me. __________________________________________ a two cent stamp short of going postal.

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          Daniel Turini
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          Rick York wrote: I saw little reason for the ++ and -- operators and did not include them You code in C**++** and do not see the need for the ++ operator? :omg::wtf: Yes, even I am blogging now!

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          • P peterchen

            After a batch of interviews, the second most notable thing is that where both ++i and i++ are possible, all candidates used i++ Having optimizied for older compilers I automatically opt for the "simpler" concept of ++i except where I explicitely need the postfix increment. (I now that it makes no difference to today's compilers, but it might still save some microseconds when compiling :rolleyes: ) so - Vote 5 if it's for(int i=0; i<n; ++i) , and Vote 1 if it's for(int i=0; i<n; i++) for you. if the "programming" in the title triggers a pawlowian in you, please vote 3


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            Lost User
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            ++i is safe there but a bad habit in other places so I stick with i++. Elaine :rose: The tigress is here :-D

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            • J Jonathan de Halleux

              I use foreach. :) Jonathan de Halleux - My Blog

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              roel_
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              Spoken with wisdom :)

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              • L Lost User

                ++i is safe there but a bad habit in other places so I stick with i++. Elaine :rose: The tigress is here :-D

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                peterchen
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                Trollslayer wrote: but a bad habit in other places where? (never encountered one)


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                • C Christian Graus

                  ++i, for sure. Although a compiler may optimise, it's in theory more efficient, and never less so. Christian I have drunk the cool-aid and found it wan and bitter. - Chris Maunder

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                  peterchen
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                  exactly my thought - dunno why you were voted down...


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                  • P peterchen

                    After a batch of interviews, the second most notable thing is that where both ++i and i++ are possible, all candidates used i++ Having optimizied for older compilers I automatically opt for the "simpler" concept of ++i except where I explicitely need the postfix increment. (I now that it makes no difference to today's compilers, but it might still save some microseconds when compiling :rolleyes: ) so - Vote 5 if it's for(int i=0; i<n; ++i) , and Vote 1 if it's for(int i=0; i<n; i++) for you. if the "programming" in the title triggers a pawlowian in you, please vote 3


                    we are here to help each other get through this thing, whatever it is Vonnegut jr.
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                    megaadam
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                    // real programmers use i = false ? 1 - i : 1 + i; :suss: _____________________________________ Action without thought is not action Action without emotion is not life

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                    • P peterchen

                      After a batch of interviews, the second most notable thing is that where both ++i and i++ are possible, all candidates used i++ Having optimizied for older compilers I automatically opt for the "simpler" concept of ++i except where I explicitely need the postfix increment. (I now that it makes no difference to today's compilers, but it might still save some microseconds when compiling :rolleyes: ) so - Vote 5 if it's for(int i=0; i<n; ++i) , and Vote 1 if it's for(int i=0; i<n; i++) for you. if the "programming" in the title triggers a pawlowian in you, please vote 3


                      we are here to help each other get through this thing, whatever it is Vonnegut jr.
                      sighist || Agile Programming | doxygen

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                      David Wulff
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                      peterchen wrote: please vote 3 Won't that skew the results? I thought different levels of members got different vote weights. :~ FWIW I'm an i++ guy.


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                      • P peterchen

                        After a batch of interviews, the second most notable thing is that where both ++i and i++ are possible, all candidates used i++ Having optimizied for older compilers I automatically opt for the "simpler" concept of ++i except where I explicitely need the postfix increment. (I now that it makes no difference to today's compilers, but it might still save some microseconds when compiling :rolleyes: ) so - Vote 5 if it's for(int i=0; i<n; ++i) , and Vote 1 if it's for(int i=0; i<n; i++) for you. if the "programming" in the title triggers a pawlowian in you, please vote 3


                        we are here to help each other get through this thing, whatever it is Vonnegut jr.
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                        Antony M Kancidrowski
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                        Strange for incrementing integers in for statements I use i++ For incrementing itterators I use ++it. Ant. I'm hard, yet soft.
                        I'm coloured, yet clear.
                        I'm fuity and sweet.
                        I'm jelly, what am I? Muse on it further, I shall return!
                        - David Williams (Little Britain)

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                          Gary Wheeler
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                          Indeed. I used to write entire applications in DCL :-O.


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                          • G Gary Wheeler

                            Indeed. I used to write entire applications in DCL :-O.


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                            Oh yeah! Remember the DEC Professional? They were kind enough to publish several of my DCL hacks. I recall (with awe) when DCL released with VMS 3.1 first offered the END IF clause. What power! :omg: /ravi My new year's resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | Freeware | Music ravib@ravib.com

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                            • D Daniel Turini

                              Rick York wrote: I saw little reason for the ++ and -- operators and did not include them You code in C**++** and do not see the need for the ++ operator? :omg::wtf: Yes, even I am blogging now!

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                              Rick York
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                              No, not in a scripting language that has no concept of objects. __________________________________________ a two cent stamp short of going postal.

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                              • P peterchen

                                exactly my thought - dunno why you were voted down...


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                                Christian Graus
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                                I am ALWAYS voted down. Come to the soapbox if you want to find out why :P Christian I have drunk the cool-aid and found it wan and bitter. - Chris Maunder

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