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  • B Brian Delahunty

    Tom Archer wrote: Rearding "1" that's for any long distance call. 011 is for international calls. Yeah. The rest of the world seem to use 00 for international dialing and the US use 01... the "1" I was referring to is the international dialing code for the US... so if I wanted to ring a US number I'd dial 001 .... but in the validation I'm doing I'm ignoring the 00... so it would just be 1. Over here, and all over europe, you also drop the 0 prefix that all numbers have... e.g. 0871234567 becomes 00353871234567.. dropping the first 0. Are US and Canadian numbers like this also? Regards, Brian Dela :-) http://www.briandela.com IE 6 required.
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    Brian Delahunty wrote: Over here, and all over europe, you also drop the 0 prefix that all numbers have... e.g. 0871234567 becomes 00353871234567.. dropping the first 0. Are US and Canadian numbers like this also? The only prefix we have to do is the "1" if it's long distance. When I was a kid that meant any number having a different area code. However, now that many area codes have been exhausted such that multiple area codes have to be used for a single area, it can be confusing whether or not you need to use a "1". For example, when I go to Microsoft, I always have to look up which numbers I can dial with 10-digit dialing versus which are long-distance and require the "1". Cheers, Tom Archer "Use what talents you possess. The woods would be very silent if no birds sang there except those that sang best." - William Blake * Inside C# -Second Edition * Visual C++.NET Bible * Extending MFC Applications with the .NET Framework

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    • D David Stone

      whole hatred and anger thang. I can just hear a Georgian saying that too. :rolleyes: Did Krista get the invite I sent her? :-D Since she's on Yahoo, it might have gone to her bulk mail folder...may want to have her check. :)


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      Tom Archer
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      David Stone wrote: I can just hear a Georgian saying that too. Actually, I was doing the exagerated "cool, black" talk. :) After I wrote it, I figured though that it would be taken as a Georgian bit :) Cheers, Tom Archer "Use what talents you possess. The woods would be very silent if no birds sang there except those that sang best." - William Blake * Inside C# -Second Edition * Visual C++.NET Bible * Extending MFC Applications with the .NET Framework

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        David Stone wrote: I can just hear a Georgian saying that too. Actually, I was doing the exagerated "cool, black" talk. :) After I wrote it, I figured though that it would be taken as a Georgian bit :) Cheers, Tom Archer "Use what talents you possess. The woods would be very silent if no birds sang there except those that sang best." - William Blake * Inside C# -Second Edition * Visual C++.NET Bible * Extending MFC Applications with the .NET Framework

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        David Stone
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        I figured though that it would be taken as a Georgian bit You guys just have that twang to your voice that's kinda irritating. ;) The new girl at our local Blockbuster just moved here from Georgia. She's got this really thick accent. It's just like listening to Shakespeare* , you have to concentrate on every syllable... *Well, 'cept for the fact that Shakespeare was brilliant. ;P


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        • T Tom Archer

          Brian Delahunty wrote: Over here, and all over europe, you also drop the 0 prefix that all numbers have... e.g. 0871234567 becomes 00353871234567.. dropping the first 0. Are US and Canadian numbers like this also? The only prefix we have to do is the "1" if it's long distance. When I was a kid that meant any number having a different area code. However, now that many area codes have been exhausted such that multiple area codes have to be used for a single area, it can be confusing whether or not you need to use a "1". For example, when I go to Microsoft, I always have to look up which numbers I can dial with 10-digit dialing versus which are long-distance and require the "1". Cheers, Tom Archer "Use what talents you possess. The woods would be very silent if no birds sang there except those that sang best." - William Blake * Inside C# -Second Edition * Visual C++.NET Bible * Extending MFC Applications with the .NET Framework

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          Brian Delahunty
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          We don't add a number if it's long distance. E.g. My local area code is 051... so say I want to ring 05154321 I just dial 54321 .... to ring a number in a different area code, say area code 053 and the number is 54321, i'd just dial 05354321 ... I don't add a prefix... But with international numbers we add a 00 + country code (which for the US is 1) + area code + the number. So... am I correct is thinking that US area codes also start with a 0 (I presume I'll drop this 0 for internationally formatted number)? Christ.. the damn US like to do everything different.. just look at ye're mobile phone technology... Ye use CDMA and TDMA whereas the rest of the world use GSM/UMTS (although GSM is sortof TDMA) and any parts of the US that do use GSM use it on 1900Mhz whereas the rest of the world have more or less standardised on 1800Mhz for GSM these days. :rolleyes: Ah well. In Ireland we drive on the left had side... going against the grain as regards europe. So we all have our problems :sigh: Regards, Brian Dela :-) http://www.briandela.com IE 6 required.
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          • T Tom Archer

            David Stone wrote: Did Krista get the invite I sent her? She's still in bed :) , but I told her last night to be on the lookout for it and she's definitely stoked! Cheers, Tom Archer "Use what talents you possess. The woods would be very silent if no birds sang there except those that sang best." - William Blake * Inside C# -Second Edition * Visual C++.NET Bible * Extending MFC Applications with the .NET Framework

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            David Stone
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            She's still in bed, but I told her last night to be on the lookout for it and she's definitely stoked! I think it's kinda funny that your wife is nearly as famous as you are in the developer community. :) Krista is one cool lady, Tom. Keep her around for a while, eh? ;)


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              She's still in bed, but I told her last night to be on the lookout for it and she's definitely stoked! I think it's kinda funny that your wife is nearly as famous as you are in the developer community. :) Krista is one cool lady, Tom. Keep her around for a while, eh? ;)


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              Tom Archer
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              David Stone wrote: I think it's kinda funny that your wife is nearly as famous as you are in the developer community. I know. She gets a real kick out of that :) Funny thing is that she was in IS for 15 years at Data General running their data operations center so she definitely knows her way around servers and hardware. David Stone wrote: Krista is one cool lady, Tom. Keep her around for a while, eh? Definitely agreed. I think I'll keep her :) Cheers, Tom Archer "Use what talents you possess. The woods would be very silent if no birds sang there except those that sang best." - William Blake * Inside C# -Second Edition * Visual C++.NET Bible * Extending MFC Applications with the .NET Framework

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              • B Brian Delahunty

                Cool. Thanks Tom. I appreciate that. Regards, Brian Dela :-) http://www.briandela.com IE 6 required.
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                Tom Archer
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                We're looking into it, but as you could tell from other posts, it's probably not going to be good news. VeriSign is now checking with Acxiom - who provide the services for the USPS and many other companies that have everyone's SSN and address. They should know for sure. Cheers, Tom Archer "Use what talents you possess. The woods would be very silent if no birds sang there except those that sang best." - William Blake * Inside C# -Second Edition * Visual C++.NET Bible * Extending MFC Applications with the .NET Framework

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                • T Tom Archer

                  I've been thinking of getting a Vonage system for some time - I especially like the idea of having numbers from anywhere in the country for my clients to use. How's your experience been with them? What plan did you get and how has it worked out? Cheers, Tom Archer "Use what talents you possess. The woods would be very silent if no birds sang there except those that sang best." - William Blake * Inside C# -Second Edition * Visual C++.NET Bible * Extending MFC Applications with the .NET Framework

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                  Gary Thom
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                  So far so good. Had it about 6 months. I initially had an issue where I had to reboot the telephone adaptor about once a week (my firewall was tight), they prefer to be the first inline after the cable modem, but they don't pass port 80 through, which is a pain for my website :mad: One nagging problem (and it could be my telephone) is that when I delete messages form voicemail (using the handset) the voicemail icon does not clear from the handset until I go to the website and delete the message from the deleted messages folder (you can access everything in a hotmail / dare I say gmail type view). I especially like the fact I can have them automatically e-mail a wav of the voicemail to me wherever I am. I have very consistent service from Time Warner Cable which helps of course. I call the UK from NYC frequently and the line quality is very good, the rate is cheap (3 cents per minute). I took the unlimited local plan $25 per month with 500 mins long distance. They transferred my number within the time specified, and gave me a temporary incoming number, I could use the outgoing immediately and it showed up on other peoples caller displays correctly. You have you register your number for 911 service as they have to figure out where you really are… as the numbers can be virtual. Gary

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                  • T Tom Archer

                    Brian Delahunty wrote: Over here, and all over europe, you also drop the 0 prefix that all numbers have... e.g. 0871234567 becomes 00353871234567.. dropping the first 0. Are US and Canadian numbers like this also? The only prefix we have to do is the "1" if it's long distance. When I was a kid that meant any number having a different area code. However, now that many area codes have been exhausted such that multiple area codes have to be used for a single area, it can be confusing whether or not you need to use a "1". For example, when I go to Microsoft, I always have to look up which numbers I can dial with 10-digit dialing versus which are long-distance and require the "1". Cheers, Tom Archer "Use what talents you possess. The woods would be very silent if no birds sang there except those that sang best." - William Blake * Inside C# -Second Edition * Visual C++.NET Bible * Extending MFC Applications with the .NET Framework

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                    Mike Dimmick
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                    In Britain when we need more numbers we do it properly. Back in 1995 everyone's area code got an initial 1 after the 0, e.g. 0734 xxxxxx => 01734 xxxxxx, while a number of cities short on numbers (e.g. Bristol, Leeds) had a change to an 011x number, with a prefix being added to the local code. At the same time the international dialling code changed from 010 to 00. Reading, where I live, wasn't included in the 1995 plan but was using up numbers so fast in 1995/6 that we were quickly given a new area code: 01734 xxxxxx => 0118 9xx xxxx. Unfortunately this change wasn't well understood by the population: you still see signage and advertising showing numbers as 01189 xxxxxx. Wrong! Many numbers issued in the last eight years have a local number starting with something other than 9 - some of the local council numbers are 3xx xxxx. Mobile phones had a mixture of 'area' codes before 1995, in the 03, 06, 07, 08 and 09 ranges, but they've gradually been migrated into the 077, 078, 079 codes. You have to dial the whole number when calling from a mobile anyway. The 07 prefix now means a personal number, 08 means a special rate (free, local rate or national rate) while 09 means a premium rate. Some UK fixed-line numbers now use an 02 prefix. London jumped rapidly from 01 to 071 and 081, then 0171 and 0181 in 1995, and more recently (2001?) to 020 7xxx xxxx (if you were 0171) and 020 8xxx xxxx (if you were 0181). New London numbers are simply 020 + 8 digits. No doubt they'll use up that 100m numbers quickly. It's painful for a short period, but simpler once people have become used to it. Apparently BT are due to introduce DSL-only lines soon. I'm not sure if these will still require a number to be allocated; if not, some numbers (like the line connecting this site to the internet) will become free again. Of course, with extension direct-dialing on our PABX we have four physical ISDN lines (each with their own numbers) plus 12 virtual direct-dial numbers. Stability. What an interesting concept. -- Chris Maunder

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                    • P ProffK

                      That is so American. I can't provide any real info on these numbers except to tell you that normally they conform (in SA, at least, probably the same in the UK) to the area-code(3) exchange-code(3) number(4) pattern. Now with cellphones, special area codes are used and only a few per network are needed, as there are no areas on a cell network. Needless to say the exchange code isn't used either, and the whole seven digits forms serial number. The American numbers may use real area codes. My blog.

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                      Jeremy Falcon
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                      ProffK That is so American. Hey dumbass, he said Canadian too. Get over your American bashing for Christ's sake!!! Jeremy Falcon

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                      • T Tom Archer

                        In the US, your area code is dictated where you live - not by the type of phone you have. Also, in larger cities - such as Atlanta, NY, etc. - where multiple area codes exists and 10-digit dialing is mandatory, you have your choice of what area code you want. Rearding "1" that's for any long distance call. 011 is for international calls. Cheers, Tom Archer "Use what talents you possess. The woods would be very silent if no birds sang there except those that sang best." - William Blake * Inside C# -Second Edition * Visual C++.NET Bible * Extending MFC Applications with the .NET Framework

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                        markstu
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                        I wasn't aware that people in larger cities had an option of what area code they wanted for their cell phone. I thought it was just assigned based on availability and location. The good thing about VOIP now is that you can set up different numbers with different area codes for wherever you want. Cell providers need to figure out a way to take a page out of their book...and learn a lesson about pricing. Anybody else out there have any experience with VOIP?

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