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    Antony M Kancidrowski
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    OK, I know I may be flamed here but I was curious. I have been looking at some decoded packets and noticed a few were stamped with IP v10. Further investigation showed that they were from Microsoft (MSN Messenger in fact). I have tried to find information on IPv10. Has anyone seen anything about this or can anyone point me at some relevent articles. Ant. I'm hard, yet soft.
    I'm coloured, yet clear.
    I'm fruity and sweet.
    I'm jelly, what am I? Muse on it further, I shall return!
    - David Williams (Little Britain)

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      OK, I know I may be flamed here but I was curious. I have been looking at some decoded packets and noticed a few were stamped with IP v10. Further investigation showed that they were from Microsoft (MSN Messenger in fact). I have tried to find information on IPv10. Has anyone seen anything about this or can anyone point me at some relevent articles. Ant. I'm hard, yet soft.
      I'm coloured, yet clear.
      I'm fruity and sweet.
      I'm jelly, what am I? Muse on it further, I shall return!
      - David Williams (Little Britain)

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      Maximilien
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      IPv10 ?!!?!? aren't we just about to go IPv6 ?


      Maximilien Lincourt Your Head A Splode - Strong Bad

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        OK, I know I may be flamed here but I was curious. I have been looking at some decoded packets and noticed a few were stamped with IP v10. Further investigation showed that they were from Microsoft (MSN Messenger in fact). I have tried to find information on IPv10. Has anyone seen anything about this or can anyone point me at some relevent articles. Ant. I'm hard, yet soft.
        I'm coloured, yet clear.
        I'm fruity and sweet.
        I'm jelly, what am I? Muse on it further, I shall return!
        - David Williams (Little Britain)

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        Mike Dimmick
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        I couldn't see anything when poking around with Ethereal 0.10.5a. What were you doing when you saw these packets? Having said that, the only way to send such packets would be to use the RAW socket functionality, which is only available to administrators, or to add a new driver to the stack. Have you checked for spyware? Stability. What an interesting concept. -- Chris Maunder

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          IPv10 ?!!?!? aren't we just about to go IPv6 ?


          Maximilien Lincourt Your Head A Splode - Strong Bad

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          Daniel Turini
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          Yes, but what will we do when we reach the 281,474,976,710,656 (256^6) IPv6 addresses limit? Yes, even I am blogging now!

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            IPv10 ?!!?!? aren't we just about to go IPv6 ?


            Maximilien Lincourt Your Head A Splode - Strong Bad

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            Jeremy Falcon
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            IPv6 has been around and implemeted for years on many Unix platforms. As usual, the rest of the world is waiting for MS to catch up. :) Jeremy Falcon

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              Yes, but what will we do when we reach the 281,474,976,710,656 (256^6) IPv6 addresses limit? Yes, even I am blogging now!

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              Matt Newman
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              Daniel Turini wrote: Yes, but what will we do when we reach the 281,474,976,710,656 (256^6) IPv6 addresses limit? Split the internet into 4 seperate internets, 1 would be just porn etc, another would be worthless internet stuff, another would be the rest of the worthless stuff, and then the useful internet could probably fit within IPv2 network :) Matt Newman
              ...armed with what? spitballs!? - Zell Miller

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                IPv6 has been around and implemeted for years on many Unix platforms. As usual, the rest of the world is waiting for MS to catch up. :) Jeremy Falcon

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                Matt Newman
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                I've been using IPv6 on Windows for a few years, just waiting for the entire internet. Matt Newman
                ...armed with what? spitballs!? - Zell Miller

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                  Yes, but what will we do when we reach the 281,474,976,710,656 (256^6) IPv6 addresses limit? Yes, even I am blogging now!

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                  Jeremy Falcon
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                  It'll be a loooong way away. Besides, just as in IPv4 we'll make the limit stretch even further with private IPs and subnets. Jeremy Falcon

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                    Yes, but what will we do when we reach the 281,474,976,710,656 (256^6) IPv6 addresses limit? Yes, even I am blogging now!

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                    Maximilien
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                    we will run around in circle screaming ...


                    Maximilien Lincourt Your Head A Splode - Strong Bad

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                      I've been using IPv6 on Windows for a few years, just waiting for the entire internet. Matt Newman
                      ...armed with what? spitballs!? - Zell Miller

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                      Jeremy Falcon
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                      Their implement was years after everyone else. Also, it has been buggy. Jeremy Falcon

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                        I couldn't see anything when poking around with Ethereal 0.10.5a. What were you doing when you saw these packets? Having said that, the only way to send such packets would be to use the RAW socket functionality, which is only available to administrators, or to add a new driver to the stack. Have you checked for spyware? Stability. What an interesting concept. -- Chris Maunder

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                        Jeff Bogan
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                        Mike Dimmick wrote: What were you doing when you saw these packets? That's what I was going to ask - and how - packet sniffer?

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                          Daniel Turini wrote: Yes, but what will we do when we reach the 281,474,976,710,656 (256^6) IPv6 addresses limit? Split the internet into 4 seperate internets, 1 would be just porn etc, another would be worthless internet stuff, another would be the rest of the worthless stuff, and then the useful internet could probably fit within IPv2 network :) Matt Newman
                          ...armed with what? spitballs!? - Zell Miller

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                          Steve McLenithan
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                          Matt Newman wrote: and then the useful internet could probably fit within IPv2 network Nice! :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

                          This demographic will quite happily click on shiny things however:laugh:

                          Found on Bash.org [erno] hm. I've lost a machine.. literally _lost_. it responds to ping, it works completely, I just can't figure out where in my apartment it is.

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                            Daniel Turini wrote: Yes, but what will we do when we reach the 281,474,976,710,656 (256^6) IPv6 addresses limit? Split the internet into 4 seperate internets, 1 would be just porn etc, another would be worthless internet stuff, another would be the rest of the worthless stuff, and then the useful internet could probably fit within IPv2 network :) Matt Newman
                            ...armed with what? spitballs!? - Zell Miller

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                            David Cunningham
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                            Matt Newman wrote: Split the internet into 4 seperate internets, 1 would be just porn etc, another would be worthless internet stuff, another would be the rest of the worthless stuff, and then the useful internet could probably fit within IPv2 network Telephone sanitizers and middle men right? David

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                              Yes, but what will we do when we reach the 281,474,976,710,656 (256^6) IPv6 addresses limit? Yes, even I am blogging now!

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                              Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                              Ahem. The IPv6 address space is only 128 bits. :) -- Arigato gozaimashita!

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                                Their implement was years after everyone else. Also, it has been buggy. Jeremy Falcon

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                                Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                                I think their wait was a smart choice. IPv6 by itself is useless. The true potential of IPv6 comes with better transport protocols which can deliver proper QoS. Why spend money on something that won't be useful for a long while? The reason why it was first made on Unix is that most researchers have open access to the source code... :) -- Arigato gozaimashita!

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                                  I couldn't see anything when poking around with Ethereal 0.10.5a. What were you doing when you saw these packets? Having said that, the only way to send such packets would be to use the RAW socket functionality, which is only available to administrators, or to add a new driver to the stack. Have you checked for spyware? Stability. What an interesting concept. -- Chris Maunder

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                                  Antony M Kancidrowski
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                                  I write software that manages networks. I was collecting packets in order to diagnose a problem I was experiencing while displaying data. While analysing the packets using Sniffer I came across a packet that was signed as IPv10. It was sent from microsoft to my machine (sorry I can not tell you which messenger site as I am home now and the packets are at work.) The only recent change that I made was to enable IPv6 on my WinXP Pro machine. I wonder if this is something to do with it. Note: I have MSN Messenger running most of the time. Ant. I'm hard, yet soft.
                                  I'm coloured, yet clear.
                                  I'm fruity and sweet.
                                  I'm jelly, what am I? Muse on it further, I shall return!
                                  - David Williams (Little Britain)

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                                    IPv10 ?!!?!? aren't we just about to go IPv6 ?


                                    Maximilien Lincourt Your Head A Splode - Strong Bad

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                                    Antony M Kancidrowski
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                                    Yes that is right. Although IPv6, IPv7, IPv8 and IPv9 were all proposed before they settled with IPv6. :-D Ant. I'm hard, yet soft.
                                    I'm coloured, yet clear.
                                    I'm fruity and sweet.
                                    I'm jelly, what am I? Muse on it further, I shall return!
                                    - David Williams (Little Britain)

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                                      Mike Dimmick wrote: What were you doing when you saw these packets? That's what I was going to ask - and how - packet sniffer?

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                                      Antony M Kancidrowski
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                                      See reply to Mike Dimmick's message Ant. I'm hard, yet soft.
                                      I'm coloured, yet clear.
                                      I'm fruity and sweet.
                                      I'm jelly, what am I? Muse on it further, I shall return!
                                      - David Williams (Little Britain)

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                                        I think their wait was a smart choice. IPv6 by itself is useless. The true potential of IPv6 comes with better transport protocols which can deliver proper QoS. Why spend money on something that won't be useful for a long while? The reason why it was first made on Unix is that most researchers have open access to the source code... :) -- Arigato gozaimashita!

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                                        Navin
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                                        Why spend money on something that won't be useful for a long while? Why does MSDN Magazine come to mind...? :-D An expert is somebody who learns more and more about less and less, until he knows absolutely everything about nothing.

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                                        • A Antony M Kancidrowski

                                          I write software that manages networks. I was collecting packets in order to diagnose a problem I was experiencing while displaying data. While analysing the packets using Sniffer I came across a packet that was signed as IPv10. It was sent from microsoft to my machine (sorry I can not tell you which messenger site as I am home now and the packets are at work.) The only recent change that I made was to enable IPv6 on my WinXP Pro machine. I wonder if this is something to do with it. Note: I have MSN Messenger running most of the time. Ant. I'm hard, yet soft.
                                          I'm coloured, yet clear.
                                          I'm fruity and sweet.
                                          I'm jelly, what am I? Muse on it further, I shall return!
                                          - David Williams (Little Britain)

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                                          Russell Morris
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                                          The only recent change that I made was to enable IPv6 on my WinXP Pro machine. I wonder if this is something to do with it. Hrm... IPv4 + IPv6 would be IPv10, wouldn't it? Perhaps this indicates that the given packet is an IPv6 packet being tunneled through an IPv4 packet, or vice versa? -- Russell Morris "So, broccoli, mother says you're good for me... but I'm afraid I'm no good for you!" - Stewy

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