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I have a rusty ol' AMD K6 (300 mhz), 120 meg of memory. It is running Windows 98. I hate it, but not sure how to upgrade. Anyone run XP on a machine that old? I like XP on my machines at work, but these are all MUCH faster and have a lot more ram (e.g., 2Ghz processor, 1 gig ram.) I don't want to spend all my time looking at an hourglass. I could also switch to Linux. I would need some way of running Snood, so I'd either have to hope it works with Wine or dual-boot or something, but otherwise everything else I need will run. Any ideas? Will coughing up $99 for an XP upgrade actually help me any, or should I go Linux? :~ An expert is somebody who learns more and more about less and less, until he knows absolutely everything about nothing.
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I have a rusty ol' AMD K6 (300 mhz), 120 meg of memory. It is running Windows 98. I hate it, but not sure how to upgrade. Anyone run XP on a machine that old? I like XP on my machines at work, but these are all MUCH faster and have a lot more ram (e.g., 2Ghz processor, 1 gig ram.) I don't want to spend all my time looking at an hourglass. I could also switch to Linux. I would need some way of running Snood, so I'd either have to hope it works with Wine or dual-boot or something, but otherwise everything else I need will run. Any ideas? Will coughing up $99 for an XP upgrade actually help me any, or should I go Linux? :~ An expert is somebody who learns more and more about less and less, until he knows absolutely everything about nothing.
>or should I go Linux? If you're thinking of linux with a decent GUI (e.g. KDE 3 or Gnome) then forget it. It's going to run slower than XP. If you don't care about the GUI, linux is fine. I had XP running on a 300Mhz PII with 256 MB Ram and it was fine.. sometimes a little slow but it ran with VC++ 6 and SQL Server and it was usable... maybe you coudl just spend a few squid on some memory? Regards, Brian Dela :-) http://www.briandela.com IE 6 required.
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I have a rusty ol' AMD K6 (300 mhz), 120 meg of memory. It is running Windows 98. I hate it, but not sure how to upgrade. Anyone run XP on a machine that old? I like XP on my machines at work, but these are all MUCH faster and have a lot more ram (e.g., 2Ghz processor, 1 gig ram.) I don't want to spend all my time looking at an hourglass. I could also switch to Linux. I would need some way of running Snood, so I'd either have to hope it works with Wine or dual-boot or something, but otherwise everything else I need will run. Any ideas? Will coughing up $99 for an XP upgrade actually help me any, or should I go Linux? :~ An expert is somebody who learns more and more about less and less, until he knows absolutely everything about nothing.
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I have a rusty ol' AMD K6 (300 mhz), 120 meg of memory. It is running Windows 98. I hate it, but not sure how to upgrade. Anyone run XP on a machine that old? I like XP on my machines at work, but these are all MUCH faster and have a lot more ram (e.g., 2Ghz processor, 1 gig ram.) I don't want to spend all my time looking at an hourglass. I could also switch to Linux. I would need some way of running Snood, so I'd either have to hope it works with Wine or dual-boot or something, but otherwise everything else I need will run. Any ideas? Will coughing up $99 for an XP upgrade actually help me any, or should I go Linux? :~ An expert is somebody who learns more and more about less and less, until he knows absolutely everything about nothing.
As Steve pointed out you could try a CD based linux first... Knoppix, or, for example, SuSE 9.1 Live Eval CD. Regards, Brian Dela :-) http://www.briandela.com IE 6 required.
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It depends on what you want to do with XP. For any sort of development, 256Mb minimum is required. For other stuff, you may get away with more. I'd recommend trying Linux first (its free!). If it doesn't so what you want, then you can consider up/down grading to XP.
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I have a rusty ol' AMD K6 (300 mhz), 120 meg of memory. It is running Windows 98. I hate it, but not sure how to upgrade. Anyone run XP on a machine that old? I like XP on my machines at work, but these are all MUCH faster and have a lot more ram (e.g., 2Ghz processor, 1 gig ram.) I don't want to spend all my time looking at an hourglass. I could also switch to Linux. I would need some way of running Snood, so I'd either have to hope it works with Wine or dual-boot or something, but otherwise everything else I need will run. Any ideas? Will coughing up $99 for an XP upgrade actually help me any, or should I go Linux? :~ An expert is somebody who learns more and more about less and less, until he knows absolutely everything about nothing.
I had Windows 2000 Pro running on an almost identical machine (AMD K6 300MHz with 96MB RAM and 4.3G RAM) and it was, well, not so bad. :) I never tried Windows XP on it, though. I have also been playing a lot with linux those days, but with a GUI like KDE or Gnome it was generally slower than Windows 2000. Trying out a CD-based distribution of Linux, like Knoppix first, would be a good idea too in my opinion, although I have no experience with these. Rado
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I have a rusty ol' AMD K6 (300 mhz), 120 meg of memory. It is running Windows 98. I hate it, but not sure how to upgrade. Anyone run XP on a machine that old? I like XP on my machines at work, but these are all MUCH faster and have a lot more ram (e.g., 2Ghz processor, 1 gig ram.) I don't want to spend all my time looking at an hourglass. I could also switch to Linux. I would need some way of running Snood, so I'd either have to hope it works with Wine or dual-boot or something, but otherwise everything else I need will run. Any ideas? Will coughing up $99 for an XP upgrade actually help me any, or should I go Linux? :~ An expert is somebody who learns more and more about less and less, until he knows absolutely everything about nothing.
My advice is to toss that machine and get a new one. No modern operating system is going to run decent on it. (Modern=anything newer than DOS 2.1) Also, you will need a minimum of 512mb of RAM for anything you might care to name, and 1gb would be optimal. Since you're going to buying a new machine, and since you obviously hang on to hardware well beyond it's serviceable life, I would recommend that you get a Socket-939 motherboard (nForce3 250 Ultra would be a good chipset), and the lowest-priced AMD64/939 cpu you can find. I'm pretty sure that the nForce boards also support single-channel ddr memory, so you can save some money there as well. In fact, all you should have to buy is the board, a cpu, and some memory, and you're all set since the motherboard already has sound/LAN/Video on it, and you should be able to use your existing drives. The Socket-939 will support all current CPU's, as well as the new dual-core stuff comeing out next year, so you'll be able to get CPU upgrades for at least another 5 or 6 years. Expect to spend $450 - $600, depending on when/where you buy your parts. After that, it's a matter of picking an OS. Unless you have a VERY compelling need to use XP ($300 for the "pro"), I'd go with Mandrake Linux 10.1 (free download). There is a 64-bit kernel available, and from what I've been told, it SCREAMS (in terms of speed). With Wine or WineX, you should be able to run most Windows software on the box. ------------------------ A Little Linux Anecdote: ------------------------ I installed Mandrake Linux 10.1 on my system this weekend. It took me two tries, but everything now seems to be okay. My first problenm was with detecting the capabilities of my video card. I ignore the warnings from the installer and finished the install. When I fired it up the first time, XFree wouldn't even load (and believe me - that's a sign that something is seriously borked up). The second time I installed, I didn't mess with the video stuff until after the system booted the first time. The system also appeared to reject my serial mouse, so I plugged it into the PS/2 port, rebooted, and I was off to the races. This is the kinda crap that keeps Linux from making it to the desktop. Most normal people would throw up their hands in frustration when XFree won't start, or if their mouse pointer is frozen. Installing and the configuring the system is simply too much effort for today's "modern" end-user. You have to ask yourself if you have the stomach for dealing with little problems l
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>or should I go Linux? If you're thinking of linux with a decent GUI (e.g. KDE 3 or Gnome) then forget it. It's going to run slower than XP. If you don't care about the GUI, linux is fine. I had XP running on a 300Mhz PII with 256 MB Ram and it was fine.. sometimes a little slow but it ran with VC++ 6 and SQL Server and it was usable... maybe you coudl just spend a few squid on some memory? Regards, Brian Dela :-) http://www.briandela.com IE 6 required.
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http://www.briandela.com/rss/newsrss.xml RSS FeedBrian Delahunty wrote: It's going to run slower than XP. I have used both operating systems for years and I have to completly disagree with you on this one. No way will linux run slower than XP, unless you work hard to slow your linux system down by installing everything under the sun and then comparing this to a freshly installed XP system with no additional software installed. Two reasons, linux makes signifigantly better use of virtual memory than windows and its file systems are faster than NTFS. John
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My advice is to toss that machine and get a new one. No modern operating system is going to run decent on it. (Modern=anything newer than DOS 2.1) Also, you will need a minimum of 512mb of RAM for anything you might care to name, and 1gb would be optimal. Since you're going to buying a new machine, and since you obviously hang on to hardware well beyond it's serviceable life, I would recommend that you get a Socket-939 motherboard (nForce3 250 Ultra would be a good chipset), and the lowest-priced AMD64/939 cpu you can find. I'm pretty sure that the nForce boards also support single-channel ddr memory, so you can save some money there as well. In fact, all you should have to buy is the board, a cpu, and some memory, and you're all set since the motherboard already has sound/LAN/Video on it, and you should be able to use your existing drives. The Socket-939 will support all current CPU's, as well as the new dual-core stuff comeing out next year, so you'll be able to get CPU upgrades for at least another 5 or 6 years. Expect to spend $450 - $600, depending on when/where you buy your parts. After that, it's a matter of picking an OS. Unless you have a VERY compelling need to use XP ($300 for the "pro"), I'd go with Mandrake Linux 10.1 (free download). There is a 64-bit kernel available, and from what I've been told, it SCREAMS (in terms of speed). With Wine or WineX, you should be able to run most Windows software on the box. ------------------------ A Little Linux Anecdote: ------------------------ I installed Mandrake Linux 10.1 on my system this weekend. It took me two tries, but everything now seems to be okay. My first problenm was with detecting the capabilities of my video card. I ignore the warnings from the installer and finished the install. When I fired it up the first time, XFree wouldn't even load (and believe me - that's a sign that something is seriously borked up). The second time I installed, I didn't mess with the video stuff until after the system booted the first time. The system also appeared to reject my serial mouse, so I plugged it into the PS/2 port, rebooted, and I was off to the races. This is the kinda crap that keeps Linux from making it to the desktop. Most normal people would throw up their hands in frustration when XFree won't start, or if their mouse pointer is frozen. Installing and the configuring the system is simply too much effort for today's "modern" end-user. You have to ask yourself if you have the stomach for dealing with little problems l
My advice is to toss that machine and get a new one. I was wondering how long it'd take before somebody suggested that... There is one little problem with that - getting a new system requires having this funny green stuff, called money. I don't really do any heavy lifting with my PC at home, so I have no real need to upgrade. I just want something other than Windows 98 running it. Still not sure if I have any realistic options, though. An expert is somebody who learns more and more about less and less, until he knows absolutely everything about nothing.
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I have a rusty ol' AMD K6 (300 mhz), 120 meg of memory. It is running Windows 98. I hate it, but not sure how to upgrade. Anyone run XP on a machine that old? I like XP on my machines at work, but these are all MUCH faster and have a lot more ram (e.g., 2Ghz processor, 1 gig ram.) I don't want to spend all my time looking at an hourglass. I could also switch to Linux. I would need some way of running Snood, so I'd either have to hope it works with Wine or dual-boot or something, but otherwise everything else I need will run. Any ideas? Will coughing up $99 for an XP upgrade actually help me any, or should I go Linux? :~ An expert is somebody who learns more and more about less and less, until he knows absolutely everything about nothing.
There is no doubt in my mind that XP will run slower than Win 98. It is (contrary to microsoft's statements) the slowest windows operating system created yet. If think I am wrong install windows 3.1 on your 1 GHz (or greater) pc and see how long it takes to load. Now compare how long it takes to load XP. What a joke... John
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I have a rusty ol' AMD K6 (300 mhz), 120 meg of memory. It is running Windows 98. I hate it, but not sure how to upgrade. Anyone run XP on a machine that old? I like XP on my machines at work, but these are all MUCH faster and have a lot more ram (e.g., 2Ghz processor, 1 gig ram.) I don't want to spend all my time looking at an hourglass. I could also switch to Linux. I would need some way of running Snood, so I'd either have to hope it works with Wine or dual-boot or something, but otherwise everything else I need will run. Any ideas? Will coughing up $99 for an XP upgrade actually help me any, or should I go Linux? :~ An expert is somebody who learns more and more about less and less, until he knows absolutely everything about nothing.
Windows 2000 should run just fine on a machine like that.
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There is no doubt in my mind that XP will run slower than Win 98. It is (contrary to microsoft's statements) the slowest windows operating system created yet. If think I am wrong install windows 3.1 on your 1 GHz (or greater) pc and see how long it takes to load. Now compare how long it takes to load XP. What a joke... John
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My advice is to toss that machine and get a new one. I was wondering how long it'd take before somebody suggested that... There is one little problem with that - getting a new system requires having this funny green stuff, called money. I don't really do any heavy lifting with my PC at home, so I have no real need to upgrade. I just want something other than Windows 98 running it. Still not sure if I have any realistic options, though. An expert is somebody who learns more and more about less and less, until he knows absolutely everything about nothing.
What's wrong with Windows98? I Keep a Win98 (as well as a Win95 and WinMe) system at home; I need something that will run CommandHQ and Shadow Warrior, after all. Another fun thing to do is set up Win3.1 on a modern machine (or even one that is a few years old -- actually, I think it might be a bit of trouble on a modern system because of disk partition and memory sizes being too big) and watch it boot all the way to the desktop in less than 3 seconds flat! Matt Gerrans
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There is no doubt in my mind that XP will run slower than Win 98. It is (contrary to microsoft's statements) the slowest windows operating system created yet. If think I am wrong install windows 3.1 on your 1 GHz (or greater) pc and see how long it takes to load. Now compare how long it takes to load XP. What a joke... John
It's just a matter of reading the fine print. I think Microsoft said something like this:
Windows XP has equal or better performance than Windows 98.*
* On a system with an order of magnitude faster CPU and an order of magnitude more memory as the system running Windows 98. Matt Gerrans
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Brian Delahunty wrote: It's going to run slower than XP. I have used both operating systems for years and I have to completly disagree with you on this one. No way will linux run slower than XP, unless you work hard to slow your linux system down by installing everything under the sun and then comparing this to a freshly installed XP system with no additional software installed. Two reasons, linux makes signifigantly better use of virtual memory than windows and its file systems are faster than NTFS. John
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My advice is to toss that machine and get a new one. No modern operating system is going to run decent on it. (Modern=anything newer than DOS 2.1) Also, you will need a minimum of 512mb of RAM for anything you might care to name, and 1gb would be optimal. Since you're going to buying a new machine, and since you obviously hang on to hardware well beyond it's serviceable life, I would recommend that you get a Socket-939 motherboard (nForce3 250 Ultra would be a good chipset), and the lowest-priced AMD64/939 cpu you can find. I'm pretty sure that the nForce boards also support single-channel ddr memory, so you can save some money there as well. In fact, all you should have to buy is the board, a cpu, and some memory, and you're all set since the motherboard already has sound/LAN/Video on it, and you should be able to use your existing drives. The Socket-939 will support all current CPU's, as well as the new dual-core stuff comeing out next year, so you'll be able to get CPU upgrades for at least another 5 or 6 years. Expect to spend $450 - $600, depending on when/where you buy your parts. After that, it's a matter of picking an OS. Unless you have a VERY compelling need to use XP ($300 for the "pro"), I'd go with Mandrake Linux 10.1 (free download). There is a 64-bit kernel available, and from what I've been told, it SCREAMS (in terms of speed). With Wine or WineX, you should be able to run most Windows software on the box. ------------------------ A Little Linux Anecdote: ------------------------ I installed Mandrake Linux 10.1 on my system this weekend. It took me two tries, but everything now seems to be okay. My first problenm was with detecting the capabilities of my video card. I ignore the warnings from the installer and finished the install. When I fired it up the first time, XFree wouldn't even load (and believe me - that's a sign that something is seriously borked up). The second time I installed, I didn't mess with the video stuff until after the system booted the first time. The system also appeared to reject my serial mouse, so I plugged it into the PS/2 port, rebooted, and I was off to the races. This is the kinda crap that keeps Linux from making it to the desktop. Most normal people would throw up their hands in frustration when XFree won't start, or if their mouse pointer is frozen. Installing and the configuring the system is simply too much effort for today's "modern" end-user. You have to ask yourself if you have the stomach for dealing with little problems l
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I have a rusty ol' AMD K6 (300 mhz), 120 meg of memory. It is running Windows 98. I hate it, but not sure how to upgrade. Anyone run XP on a machine that old? I like XP on my machines at work, but these are all MUCH faster and have a lot more ram (e.g., 2Ghz processor, 1 gig ram.) I don't want to spend all my time looking at an hourglass. I could also switch to Linux. I would need some way of running Snood, so I'd either have to hope it works with Wine or dual-boot or something, but otherwise everything else I need will run. Any ideas? Will coughing up $99 for an XP upgrade actually help me any, or should I go Linux? :~ An expert is somebody who learns more and more about less and less, until he knows absolutely everything about nothing.
Don't mean to sound hard, but you know, that Snood site has to be one of the worse laid out sites for a product I have seen. I spent three minutes or so there looking for a simple description of what it is, and I found all kinds of things but not a simple introduction I was expecting. You go their main page and when you click on one of the game links, you would think it would take you to a simple page with a description and maybe screen shots, no it takes you to download something you do not have a clue about. Tried the Info link and it brought up a list of items but from the few links I clicked on, it still did not show me the simple info on what the game is. As for the old machine, I would use it for a boat anchor or something like that. You can run XP on it as I have on one about that quality, but it is slow. Linux with a GUI is not a lot better with only 120 megs of ram and 300 mhz processor. Just the price of XP would cost more than the entire system is worth. Rocky <>< www.HintsAndTips.com - Now with "Recommendation" postings www.MyQuickPoll.com - Now with Recent Poll List
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I have a rusty ol' AMD K6 (300 mhz), 120 meg of memory. It is running Windows 98. I hate it, but not sure how to upgrade. Anyone run XP on a machine that old? I like XP on my machines at work, but these are all MUCH faster and have a lot more ram (e.g., 2Ghz processor, 1 gig ram.) I don't want to spend all my time looking at an hourglass. I could also switch to Linux. I would need some way of running Snood, so I'd either have to hope it works with Wine or dual-boot or something, but otherwise everything else I need will run. Any ideas? Will coughing up $99 for an XP upgrade actually help me any, or should I go Linux? :~ An expert is somebody who learns more and more about less and less, until he knows absolutely everything about nothing.
I installed XP Home on 200MHz Intel with 96MB – (no laughing joke) – and it runs slower them my 2GHz machine, but that is expected. Mostly noticeable during boot time, but once loaded for email and internet type apps works good. If you turn off XP Theme and any other unnecessary Windows Services, it will improve performance (less memory and CPU usage). But I would not recommend any serious development. It is good for word processing, email and Internet. I can run all my apps without worrying whether they will work; like I would if I had linux. I am personally interested about performance when it comes to installing XP Service Pack 2 on such ancient computer? Mike M WinInsider.com - News for Microsoftonians
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There is no doubt in my mind that XP will run slower than Win 98. It is (contrary to microsoft's statements) the slowest windows operating system created yet. If think I am wrong install windows 3.1 on your 1 GHz (or greater) pc and see how long it takes to load. Now compare how long it takes to load XP. What a joke... John
Windows 98 doesn't scale on contemporary hardware. While the responsiveness of simple applications is better with the simpler OS, try to throw a memory/CPU hog on both on a $1000 system and see what happens...
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Windows 2000 should run just fine on a machine like that.
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I'll have to second this. I have Win2k running on a Pentium II Celeron on 266 Mhz with ~128 Mb of RAM and it works fine. Of course there's always BeOS... :) ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned
