Finding a place to start
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Hi all! Where can I find a solid starting point in general programming? As opposed to an introduction into a specific programming language. (or I am just confused and these are really just one in the same; learning programming vs. learning a specific language:confused: ) I want to setup that foundation, for example in math you learn your basic operations(+,-,*,/) before you learn algebra or calculus. I am kind of lost as to how to go about this. I don’t having any pressing time constraints to learn this quickly (seeing as I am only 17 and still in school) so I want to take it slowly and do it right.:) Maybe I am analyzing this too much but if were to be pointed in the right directions that would help a lot! Thanks -Mark
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Hi all! Where can I find a solid starting point in general programming? As opposed to an introduction into a specific programming language. (or I am just confused and these are really just one in the same; learning programming vs. learning a specific language:confused: ) I want to setup that foundation, for example in math you learn your basic operations(+,-,*,/) before you learn algebra or calculus. I am kind of lost as to how to go about this. I don’t having any pressing time constraints to learn this quickly (seeing as I am only 17 and still in school) so I want to take it slowly and do it right.:) Maybe I am analyzing this too much but if were to be pointed in the right directions that would help a lot! Thanks -Mark
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I'd recommend learning C# ( because it's easier than C++ and not a stain on humanity like VB ). You can't really learn programming by learning just one language, but you can't learn anything without choosing a language as a framework in which to learn programming concepts. There's just nothing to hang it on, it's like trying to tell an illiterate person what a vowel is. Christian I have several lifelong friends that are New Yorkers but I have always gravitated toward the weirdo's. - Richard Stringer
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I'd recommend learning C# ( because it's easier than C++ and not a stain on humanity like VB ). You can't really learn programming by learning just one language, but you can't learn anything without choosing a language as a framework in which to learn programming concepts. There's just nothing to hang it on, it's like trying to tell an illiterate person what a vowel is. Christian I have several lifelong friends that are New Yorkers but I have always gravitated toward the weirdo's. - Richard Stringer
C# is proprietary though and I don't know if I want to start spending money on something I may not even use. -Mark
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C# is proprietary though and I don't know if I want to start spending money on something I may not even use. -Mark
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---Mark--- wrote: C# is proprietary though and I don't know if I want to start spending money on something I may not even use. Actually, you can download everything you need to write and compile C# from Microsoft for free. Only the IDE costs money, and there are free alternatives. And if you intend to program for Windows, the odds are good that you'll end up using C#. If you intend on programming for the web, it's almost a certainty. Christian I have several lifelong friends that are New Yorkers but I have always gravitated toward the weirdo's. - Richard Stringer
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C# is proprietary though and I don't know if I want to start spending money on something I may not even use. -Mark
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And C# is not proprietary since the specification for the language is a standard. Take a look at Mono[^] to see that C# applications can run on Linux and MacOS. There are quite a few programming basics that you need to cover before getting into things like windowing and message loops. Microsoft even has the new Visual C# 2005 as a 2M download for free right now too, IIRC. Remember to start slow. I have heard of people getting discouraged because they expected that they could just make a program like Word quickly, when they were just stumbling over if, while, and switch statements. Take your time and do nice simple tasks. Even find a website that a teacher has done with real assignments to test yourself. Many teachers also have notes online too. And yes IAAT (I am a teacher) - I did teach college level programming for 3 years. Steve Maier, MCSD MCAD
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---Mark--- wrote: C# is proprietary though and I don't know if I want to start spending money on something I may not even use. Actually, you can download everything you need to write and compile C# from Microsoft for free. Only the IDE costs money, and there are free alternatives. And if you intend to program for Windows, the odds are good that you'll end up using C#. If you intend on programming for the web, it's almost a certainty. Christian I have several lifelong friends that are New Yorkers but I have always gravitated toward the weirdo's. - Richard Stringer
Christian Graus wrote: Only the IDE costs money, and there are free alternatives. If you don't mind using beta software, even the IDE is free: clicky[^] -- Help me! I'm turning into a grapefruit! Phoenix Paint - back from DPaint's ashes!