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  • P Paul Watson

    Well if being a member of the male species means I have to act tough, make crude comments and make sure everything I do is centered around getting "laid" then I quit without so much as a second glance. There is more to life, and women (and men), than that :) We call oursevles educated and progressively civilised but really most of us continue the same lame male bonding crap that has been doing the rounds for thousands of years. By all means enjoy a good braai (bbq, barbie), chug that beer and shout as your team crashes over the goal line but for petes sake we all need to get rid of this "I am a tough bugger of a male and you had better fear me" attitude. Women especially are not just trophies to score with and I know we all know that, but why do we continue to be all insensitive and boast of our conquests? I am not saying get out the pink tutu and start reciting love poetry, just be a bit more honest and open, guys. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "We would accomplish many more things if we did not think of them as impossible." - Chretien Malesherbes

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    I agree :) - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"

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    • A Anna Jayne Metcalfe

      Now that we've done the wealth thing to death, how about a new poll - "How Big is Your Overdraft?" ;) I'll start the bidding at £1000....:confused: Andy Metcalfe - Sonardyne International Ltd
      (andy.metcalfe@lineone.net)
      http://www.resorg.co.uk

      "Be yourself, not what others want you to be."

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      Does a mortgage and 3 very well used credit cards count? cheers, Chris Maunder (CodeProject)

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        Well if being a member of the male species means I have to act tough, make crude comments and make sure everything I do is centered around getting "laid" then I quit without so much as a second glance. There is more to life, and women (and men), than that :) We call oursevles educated and progressively civilised but really most of us continue the same lame male bonding crap that has been doing the rounds for thousands of years. By all means enjoy a good braai (bbq, barbie), chug that beer and shout as your team crashes over the goal line but for petes sake we all need to get rid of this "I am a tough bugger of a male and you had better fear me" attitude. Women especially are not just trophies to score with and I know we all know that, but why do we continue to be all insensitive and boast of our conquests? I am not saying get out the pink tutu and start reciting love poetry, just be a bit more honest and open, guys. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "We would accomplish many more things if we did not think of them as impossible." - Chretien Malesherbes

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        Despite any high and mighty notions you might have about today's "modern male", we're all still driven by the same primal urges that have been around since the first man saw a naked woman bending over a creek to get a drink of water. Like it or not, we're all pretty much the same in that respect. If we still made a practice of dancing naked around a fire and bragging openly of our battle victories, hunting prowess, or our ability to shag any female within reach (or reasonable pursuit distance), I'm sure you'd be right there, waiting to take your turn at the "I'm a man and let me tell you why" boogie. How's that for open and honest?

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        • C Christian Graus

          I have to say, going by some of the remarks in Rant & Rave, are all of us so besotted with becoming the candle about which the moths circle? What is with that? Why does anything we do have to include the question "how many hot chicks can I score if I do this?" Personally I am disgusted, can't we just respect and love them? Not being desperate and offish?... (ooohhh this is a great plan, seem all charming, wise and elegant so that I the chicks will think I am sensitive and flock to my flame) Actually I am a tad serious, why do we males do this? We all know it is a bullphuket routine, yet we persist with it even to each other. Odd! Seriously, how many of us are *like this*, and how many just joke about it ? I'm constantly telling my wife when she hits 38 I'll swap her for two 19 year olds, but that doesn't mean I'd ever consider it. Teenage girls are just plain *silly*. I constantly tell the guys at work I'm waiting for Elle Macpherson, but the truth is I couldn't afford the upkeep, and I doubt we'd have anything to talk about. It's just male bravado, that's all. I'll bet the girls do the same when we're not about. Christian As I learn the innermost secrets of the around me, they reward me in many ways to keep quiet. Men with pierced ears are better prepared for marriage. They've experienced pain and bought Jewellery.

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          > constantly telling my wife when she hits 38 I'll swap her for two 19 year > olds, but that doesn't mean I'd ever consider it. Wait till she's 39 before you say that you wouldn't consider it... :)

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            All in all I think Chris would be the ultimate candidate for Miss World Except I think I'd have problems with the swimsuit section of the comp. They always make my bum look too big :( are all of us so besotted with becoming the candle about which the moths circle? There's an ad down here where a bunchy of testorone afflicted guys are talking about very manly things, start eating Dove chocolate, and become all soft and in touch with the feminine site. Paul...? Seriously though, I'd say partly because it's built into our genes, partly an ego thing, and maybe partly a desire not to be old, bald, fat and single. Not all guys are like that, but OTOH I've met lots of girls who are like that too. I think we are collectively have a case of attention deficit disorder here. We can barely stay on topic even within the same post, let alone a whole thread. cheers, Chris Maunder (CodeProject)

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            > but OTOH I've met lots of girls who are like that too But the girls are single *because* they're old, bald, and/or fat. > We can barely stay on topic even within the same post, let alone a whole thread. Just wait until we turn the topic to how a dog can lick it's own butt.

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              Does a mortgage and 3 very well used credit cards count? cheers, Chris Maunder (CodeProject)

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              I got you beat. A mortgage, two car payments, a bike payment, insurance on four vehicles, 3 dogs who are big eaters, a couple of well used credit cards, a computer upgrade habit, and a huge child support payment.

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                The real cash cow few people know about is CodeProject's sister site, www.codeporn.com Tim Smith Descartes Systems Sciences, Inc.

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                How right you are Tim, but has Chris let you in on his secret project? Code Probeject Chris will be starring in his own porn movie with his 21 inches, gigahertz of RAM and all the peripherals you can think of. Even all the one's John can think of. :-D Michael Martin Pegasystems Pty Ltd Australia martm@pegasystems.com +61 413-004-018 "Don't belong. Never join. Think for yourself. Peace" - Victor Stone

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                  > but OTOH I've met lots of girls who are like that too But the girls are single *because* they're old, bald, and/or fat. > We can barely stay on topic even within the same post, let alone a whole thread. Just wait until we turn the topic to how a dog can lick it's own butt.

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                  ... and balls. Michael Martin Pegasystems Pty Ltd Australia martm@pegasystems.com +61 413-004-018 "Don't belong. Never join. Think for yourself. Peace" - Victor Stone

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                    Does a mortgage and 3 very well used credit cards count? cheers, Chris Maunder (CodeProject)

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                    Anna Jayne Metcalfe
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                    Hey don't forget the loans! (£12,000 and £1,500). The first loan was used to pay off 3 others, and a £2,300 credit card bill. Don't you just love the cost of living? :confused: Andy Metcalfe - Sonardyne International Ltd
                    (andy.metcalfe@lineone.net)
                    http://www.resorg.co.uk

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                      I got you beat. A mortgage, two car payments, a bike payment, insurance on four vehicles, 3 dogs who are big eaters, a couple of well used credit cards, a computer upgrade habit, and a huge child support payment.

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                      .. but he features as subtitle in his country's GDP report.:-D eternal student Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day; teach him to use the 'net and he won't bother you for weeks.

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                      • A Anna Jayne Metcalfe

                        Hey don't forget the loans! (£12,000 and £1,500). The first loan was used to pay off 3 others, and a £2,300 credit card bill. Don't you just love the cost of living? :confused: Andy Metcalfe - Sonardyne International Ltd
                        (andy.metcalfe@lineone.net)
                        http://www.resorg.co.uk

                        "Be yourself, not what others want you to be."

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                        With the value of the Australian peso being what it is your debt is slightly greater than mine, but try this on for size. Car is leased (before tax including running costs), live with my in-laws and continually go backwards from a financial point of view every month. This has been going on for 5 years, left my first job with a very large payout. Paid off debt and then got back into it, sold house, paid off debt got back into it. Left second job moderate pay out paid off some debt. My third job (current) is paying me nearly 3 times what my first was when I left and we still spend more. This is with a wife and two kids who are dependant. It's tragic that as a household (can't think of better term) this keeps happening, but until 'we' see what is going on it won't change. Michael Martin Pegasystems Pty Ltd Australia martm@pegasystems.com +61 413-004-018 "Don't belong. Never join. Think for yourself. Peace" - Victor Stone

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                        • realJSOPR realJSOP

                          Despite any high and mighty notions you might have about today's "modern male", we're all still driven by the same primal urges that have been around since the first man saw a naked woman bending over a creek to get a drink of water. Like it or not, we're all pretty much the same in that respect. If we still made a practice of dancing naked around a fire and bragging openly of our battle victories, hunting prowess, or our ability to shag any female within reach (or reasonable pursuit distance), I'm sure you'd be right there, waiting to take your turn at the "I'm a man and let me tell you why" boogie. How's that for open and honest?

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                          How's that for open and honest? Great. The only real difference I can see to how it was way back when is - Back then you had the woman and then you danced around the fire bragging to your mates. Now you have to dance with the woman before you can have her, if your lucky. Problem is I am extremely white, and by that I mean my dancing technique. :-O Michael Martin Pegasystems Pty Ltd Australia martm@pegasystems.com +61 413-004-018 "Don't belong. Never join. Think for yourself. Peace" - Victor Stone

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                            > constantly telling my wife when she hits 38 I'll swap her for two 19 year > olds, but that doesn't mean I'd ever consider it. Wait till she's 39 before you say that you wouldn't consider it... :)

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                            *grin* Is that the voice of experience ? She turned 30 the other day. I made a move on her that night and told her I wanted to know what's it's like to do an old chick. I slept in the spare room, but it was worth it... Christian As I learn the innermost secrets of the around me, they reward me in many ways to keep quiet. Men with pierced ears are better prepared for marriage. They've experienced pain and bought Jewellery.

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                            • A Anna Jayne Metcalfe

                              Now that we've done the wealth thing to death, how about a new poll - "How Big is Your Overdraft?" ;) I'll start the bidding at £1000....:confused: Andy Metcalfe - Sonardyne International Ltd
                              (andy.metcalfe@lineone.net)
                              http://www.resorg.co.uk

                              "Be yourself, not what others want you to be."

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                              I'm doing very well there actually. I've been a programmer professionally for nearly two years. When I started I kept my day job and programmed at nights. Yes, working 100 hour weeks and short changing myself 20 to make my time sheet look impressive to my future employer was heaps of fun, thanks for asking. But after years of poverty I paid off a lot of debt quickly. Now I have a $58,000 mortgage, an $11,000 car loan and am on the edge of paying off the last feww thousand on the last of my credit card consolidation loans. No other debts except a $500 credit card, which I let stay at the limit because $500 is nothing to pay off if I ever need to. I only have the card to fuel my FatBrain.com habit. Of course, now Donna is pregnant she wants a bigger house and bigger car, so maybe all my hard work has been in vain.... Christian As I learn the innermost secrets of the around me, they reward me in many ways to keep quiet. Men with pierced ears are better prepared for marriage. They've experienced pain and bought Jewellery.

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                                I'm doing very well there actually. I've been a programmer professionally for nearly two years. When I started I kept my day job and programmed at nights. Yes, working 100 hour weeks and short changing myself 20 to make my time sheet look impressive to my future employer was heaps of fun, thanks for asking. But after years of poverty I paid off a lot of debt quickly. Now I have a $58,000 mortgage, an $11,000 car loan and am on the edge of paying off the last feww thousand on the last of my credit card consolidation loans. No other debts except a $500 credit card, which I let stay at the limit because $500 is nothing to pay off if I ever need to. I only have the card to fuel my FatBrain.com habit. Of course, now Donna is pregnant she wants a bigger house and bigger car, so maybe all my hard work has been in vain.... Christian As I learn the innermost secrets of the around me, they reward me in many ways to keep quiet. Men with pierced ears are better prepared for marriage. They've experienced pain and bought Jewellery.

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                                > Donna is pregnant she wants a bigger house and bigger car Two possible responses: 1) Does your wife know about Donna? 2) Bigger house and car goes with bigger wife

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                                  With the value of the Australian peso being what it is your debt is slightly greater than mine, but try this on for size. Car is leased (before tax including running costs), live with my in-laws and continually go backwards from a financial point of view every month. This has been going on for 5 years, left my first job with a very large payout. Paid off debt and then got back into it, sold house, paid off debt got back into it. Left second job moderate pay out paid off some debt. My third job (current) is paying me nearly 3 times what my first was when I left and we still spend more. This is with a wife and two kids who are dependant. It's tragic that as a household (can't think of better term) this keeps happening, but until 'we' see what is going on it won't change. Michael Martin Pegasystems Pty Ltd Australia martm@pegasystems.com +61 413-004-018 "Don't belong. Never join. Think for yourself. Peace" - Victor Stone

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                                  I know where you're coming from, I really do. The sad thing is that so many people are stuck in this position. Something, somewhere is very wrong with our society. That's my opinion anyway. ;P Andy Metcalfe - Sonardyne International Ltd
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                                    I'm doing very well there actually. I've been a programmer professionally for nearly two years. When I started I kept my day job and programmed at nights. Yes, working 100 hour weeks and short changing myself 20 to make my time sheet look impressive to my future employer was heaps of fun, thanks for asking. But after years of poverty I paid off a lot of debt quickly. Now I have a $58,000 mortgage, an $11,000 car loan and am on the edge of paying off the last feww thousand on the last of my credit card consolidation loans. No other debts except a $500 credit card, which I let stay at the limit because $500 is nothing to pay off if I ever need to. I only have the card to fuel my FatBrain.com habit. Of course, now Donna is pregnant she wants a bigger house and bigger car, so maybe all my hard work has been in vain.... Christian As I learn the innermost secrets of the around me, they reward me in many ways to keep quiet. Men with pierced ears are better prepared for marriage. They've experienced pain and bought Jewellery.

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                                    Of course, now Donna is pregnant she wants a bigger house and bigger car, so maybe all my hard work has been in vain.... :) Let's talk about this again in 2 years after the kids show up. David

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                                      Despite any high and mighty notions you might have about today's "modern male", we're all still driven by the same primal urges that have been around since the first man saw a naked woman bending over a creek to get a drink of water. Like it or not, we're all pretty much the same in that respect. If we still made a practice of dancing naked around a fire and bragging openly of our battle victories, hunting prowess, or our ability to shag any female within reach (or reasonable pursuit distance), I'm sure you'd be right there, waiting to take your turn at the "I'm a man and let me tell you why" boogie. How's that for open and honest?

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                                      Yada yada I am so sick of hearing the whole "while we consider ourselves modern we really are just a bunch of cells looking for another bunch of cells to inseminate and so continue our blood line and the species". If you were only allowed one thing about our basic drives then yes, too bloody right that is what it is about. But that is like saying "strip C++ bare and see what it is at is core, an archaic language, ignore the beauty of ATl/MFC and its power in the hands of a skilled programmer. Just bloody forget that and remember it is an old language. Therefore no hope, move on then, right, right". But we dont and we shouldnt do the same about us. We seem to have reached a stage in humanity where we can mix love and survival without dying off. Maybe that is what I am really talking about.. all this "damn I would like to bang Cindy Crawford" talk reviles me, it makes me feel damned cheap (just being around that talk) and makes the "object" of our lust even cheaper. As you have all said most of it is just stupid bravado meant to impress the next guy or be "part of the wannabe Cindy banging group". We already know that is false, yet we persist with it. Sex is sex. Pretty much a bunch of nerves yelling at our brain and our brain going "ooooh an orgasm, how nice". So to me sex is already dead in the water (there are enough kiddies running around that I don't have to add my two cents to continue the human race). Phuketing is way worse and not just pointless but damaging, it goes against everything that I believe in and like to think other educated men believe in. Making love (stop rolling your eyes and telling your mate how gay I am for saying that ;), that is a big part of our attitude problems) is part of what being a modern man is about. It is about having sex but being in love with that person. Not just thinking "phwoaarr great breasts" and hoping you can roll out of bed and get home before midnight leaving her alone. *sighs* go figure maybe I am just some feminine freak of a man but just banging some girl you hardly know, whether she looks like Cindy or not, just seems utterly pointless and unmeaningful to me. I wouldn't do it if I had the chance and love was not involved (with Cindy I mean). You get what I am trying to say? And I meant men in general, not just CP guys. *Cindy Crawfords name was the only one that popped into my mind, go figure regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "We would accomplish many more things if we did not think of them as impos

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                                        Yada yada I am so sick of hearing the whole "while we consider ourselves modern we really are just a bunch of cells looking for another bunch of cells to inseminate and so continue our blood line and the species". If you were only allowed one thing about our basic drives then yes, too bloody right that is what it is about. But that is like saying "strip C++ bare and see what it is at is core, an archaic language, ignore the beauty of ATl/MFC and its power in the hands of a skilled programmer. Just bloody forget that and remember it is an old language. Therefore no hope, move on then, right, right". But we dont and we shouldnt do the same about us. We seem to have reached a stage in humanity where we can mix love and survival without dying off. Maybe that is what I am really talking about.. all this "damn I would like to bang Cindy Crawford" talk reviles me, it makes me feel damned cheap (just being around that talk) and makes the "object" of our lust even cheaper. As you have all said most of it is just stupid bravado meant to impress the next guy or be "part of the wannabe Cindy banging group". We already know that is false, yet we persist with it. Sex is sex. Pretty much a bunch of nerves yelling at our brain and our brain going "ooooh an orgasm, how nice". So to me sex is already dead in the water (there are enough kiddies running around that I don't have to add my two cents to continue the human race). Phuketing is way worse and not just pointless but damaging, it goes against everything that I believe in and like to think other educated men believe in. Making love (stop rolling your eyes and telling your mate how gay I am for saying that ;), that is a big part of our attitude problems) is part of what being a modern man is about. It is about having sex but being in love with that person. Not just thinking "phwoaarr great breasts" and hoping you can roll out of bed and get home before midnight leaving her alone. *sighs* go figure maybe I am just some feminine freak of a man but just banging some girl you hardly know, whether she looks like Cindy or not, just seems utterly pointless and unmeaningful to me. I wouldn't do it if I had the chance and love was not involved (with Cindy I mean). You get what I am trying to say? And I meant men in general, not just CP guys. *Cindy Crawfords name was the only one that popped into my mind, go figure regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "We would accomplish many more things if we did not think of them as impos

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                                        > "damn I would like to bang Cindy Crawford" talk reviles me I don't think anyone said they'd like to bang Cindy Crawford, but now that you've mentioned it, I'd like to treat Sandra Bullock to a healthy dose of love gravy. Hell, I even think I could fall in love with her if it was a requirement. > Making love (stop rolling your eyes and telling your mate how gay I am > for saying that We never said you were gay... > *sighs* go figure maybe I am just some feminine freak of a man but just > banging some girl you hardly know, whether she looks like Cindy or not, > just seems utterly pointless and unmeaningful to me. ... but then again... > I wouldn't do it if I had the chance and love was not involved (with > Cindy I mean). That pretty much cinches it... :) > You get what I am trying to say? Me take squaw, you take buffalo - good trade!

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                                          Of course, now Donna is pregnant she wants a bigger house and bigger car, so maybe all my hard work has been in vain.... :) Let's talk about this again in 2 years after the kids show up. David

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                                          Dave, it only takes nine months for the kids to show up. I think you're thinking about a rhinoceros...

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