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    PaulCurry
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    I know this is a book question, but I am currently taking some beginning programming classes at a local Tech college The book we are currently using for logic and design is pretty lame, it still shows print charts, and we skip some chapters that are out of date(teachers to lazy to change their lesson plan) I am looking for a book that shows both flowcharting and pseudocode, does anyone have any suggestions? Thanks Paul

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      I know this is a book question, but I am currently taking some beginning programming classes at a local Tech college The book we are currently using for logic and design is pretty lame, it still shows print charts, and we skip some chapters that are out of date(teachers to lazy to change their lesson plan) I am looking for a book that shows both flowcharting and pseudocode, does anyone have any suggestions? Thanks Paul

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      I've never read any books on either, but an Amazon search came up with Code Complete, Second Edition in the top position. Coincidentally, I'm waiting for payday in order to buy this book. Perhaps anyone who owns it already might like to comment ? Christian I have several lifelong friends that are New Yorkers but I have always gravitated toward the weirdo's. - Richard Stringer

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        I've never read any books on either, but an Amazon search came up with Code Complete, Second Edition in the top position. Coincidentally, I'm waiting for payday in order to buy this book. Perhaps anyone who owns it already might like to comment ? Christian I have several lifelong friends that are New Yorkers but I have always gravitated toward the weirdo's. - Richard Stringer

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        Only read through the first 50 pages or so, but it's very good so far. Unfortunately, time constraints (read lack of motivation) have kept me from reading much more the past few weeks. BW


        "Get up and open your eyes. Don't let yourself ever fall down.
        Get through it and learn how to fly. I know you will find a way...
        Today"
        -Days of the New

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          I've never read any books on either, but an Amazon search came up with Code Complete, Second Edition in the top position. Coincidentally, I'm waiting for payday in order to buy this book. Perhaps anyone who owns it already might like to comment ? Christian I have several lifelong friends that are New Yorkers but I have always gravitated toward the weirdo's. - Richard Stringer

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          Blake Miller
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          I read all of Code Complete (First Edition) and also Writing Solid Code. I would highly recommend both of them.

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            I've never read any books on either, but an Amazon search came up with Code Complete, Second Edition in the top position. Coincidentally, I'm waiting for payday in order to buy this book. Perhaps anyone who owns it already might like to comment ? Christian I have several lifelong friends that are New Yorkers but I have always gravitated toward the weirdo's. - Richard Stringer

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            Colin Angus Mackay
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            I don't have the second edition, but I bought the first edition a few years ago when it came out and it was a great book. I imagine that the bits that are now getting dated have been overhauled, but I think that pretty much most of it still holds. It is quite a weighty tome so it will take some time to get through it all, but definitely worth it.


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              I read all of Code Complete (First Edition) and also Writing Solid Code. I would highly recommend both of them.

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              Jeff Martin
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              I second the Writing Solid Code recommendation. I bought it at least 7 years ago, probably more, and it has followed me to various offices and is still sitting on my bookcase now. I always meant to get Code Complete, but for some reason never did. Jeff Martin My Blog

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                Only read through the first 50 pages or so, but it's very good so far. Unfortunately, time constraints (read lack of motivation) have kept me from reading much more the past few weeks. BW


                "Get up and open your eyes. Don't let yourself ever fall down.
                Get through it and learn how to fly. I know you will find a way...
                Today"
                -Days of the New

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                brianwelsch wrote: Unfortunately, time constraints (read lack of motivation) This is the one advantage of taking the train to work: I get to read books on the way. I must read about 40 minutes a day, unless a book is the kind that I can't put down and I must know what is happening (there not much of those - I probably only read two of those each year)


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                  I second the Writing Solid Code recommendation. I bought it at least 7 years ago, probably more, and it has followed me to various offices and is still sitting on my bookcase now. I always meant to get Code Complete, but for some reason never did. Jeff Martin My Blog

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                  Colin Angus Mackay
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                  It is another great book.


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                    brianwelsch wrote: Unfortunately, time constraints (read lack of motivation) This is the one advantage of taking the train to work: I get to read books on the way. I must read about 40 minutes a day, unless a book is the kind that I can't put down and I must know what is happening (there not much of those - I probably only read two of those each year)


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                    Colin Angus Mackay wrote: I must read about 40 minutes a day nice. I've actually been a bit inspired by Paul's 50 book contest, and decided to put aside 30 minutes per day (avg. anyway) to get through the backlog of books in my bookcase. BW


                    "Get up and open your eyes. Don't let yourself ever fall down.
                    Get through it and learn how to fly. I know you will find a way...
                    Today"
                    -Days of the New

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                      Colin Angus Mackay wrote: I must read about 40 minutes a day nice. I've actually been a bit inspired by Paul's 50 book contest, and decided to put aside 30 minutes per day (avg. anyway) to get through the backlog of books in my bookcase. BW


                      "Get up and open your eyes. Don't let yourself ever fall down.
                      Get through it and learn how to fly. I know you will find a way...
                      Today"
                      -Days of the New

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                      brianwelsch wrote: to get through the backlog of books in my bookcase I know what you mean - I tend to buy books faster than I can read them. I'm currently reading Richard Dawkins' The Blind Watchmaker. It is very interesting. I've also got the latest Adrian Mole diary (written by Sue Townsend - Adrian Mole is the main character), I read the first few pages and then remembered that he the world's most useless individual and that it would be a painful read. Not becuase Sue Townsend writes badly, but because she has written the character so well. In the first few pages Adrian has written to Tony Blair to ask to confirm the 45 minute warning in writing so he can get his refund from the travel agency as he was going on holiday to somewhere in the eastern Mediteranian Sea which is very close to Iraq.... Well, you get the picture. Anyway, I've been following the Adrian Mole diaries since the first one was published - "The Diary of Adrian Mole aged 13 3/4" I've also got a stack of software development related books. And a few magazines have piled up too.


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                        brianwelsch wrote: to get through the backlog of books in my bookcase I know what you mean - I tend to buy books faster than I can read them. I'm currently reading Richard Dawkins' The Blind Watchmaker. It is very interesting. I've also got the latest Adrian Mole diary (written by Sue Townsend - Adrian Mole is the main character), I read the first few pages and then remembered that he the world's most useless individual and that it would be a painful read. Not becuase Sue Townsend writes badly, but because she has written the character so well. In the first few pages Adrian has written to Tony Blair to ask to confirm the 45 minute warning in writing so he can get his refund from the travel agency as he was going on holiday to somewhere in the eastern Mediteranian Sea which is very close to Iraq.... Well, you get the picture. Anyway, I've been following the Adrian Mole diaries since the first one was published - "The Diary of Adrian Mole aged 13 3/4" I've also got a stack of software development related books. And a few magazines have piled up too.


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                        Well I found myself at the book store this weekend and bought A History of God[^] and Finding Darwin's God[^]. Sunday night I glanced over at my night stand and saw Hitchhiker's Guide, Frankenstein, Tao te Ching, and Teachings of the Buddha[^](seeing a pattern of interest at all?) all with dog ears marking my place. Generally closer to the front cover than back. At any rate, I'm going to finally finish up Frankenstein this week. I started back in October in the spirit of Halloween, and got side tracked about 60 pages in. Then it turned Christmas, and I started and actually finished Skipping Christmas[^] by John Grisham. Following Frankenstein will be A History of God I find I actually am in better spirits when I read regularly. BW


                        "Get up and open your eyes. Don't let yourself ever fall down.
                        Get through it and learn how to fly. I know you will find a way...
                        Today"
                        -Days of the New

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                          Well I found myself at the book store this weekend and bought A History of God[^] and Finding Darwin's God[^]. Sunday night I glanced over at my night stand and saw Hitchhiker's Guide, Frankenstein, Tao te Ching, and Teachings of the Buddha[^](seeing a pattern of interest at all?) all with dog ears marking my place. Generally closer to the front cover than back. At any rate, I'm going to finally finish up Frankenstein this week. I started back in October in the spirit of Halloween, and got side tracked about 60 pages in. Then it turned Christmas, and I started and actually finished Skipping Christmas[^] by John Grisham. Following Frankenstein will be A History of God I find I actually am in better spirits when I read regularly. BW


                          "Get up and open your eyes. Don't let yourself ever fall down.
                          Get through it and learn how to fly. I know you will find a way...
                          Today"
                          -Days of the New

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                          Colin Angus Mackay
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                          brianwelsch wrote: seeing a pattern of interest at all?) I don't know about Tao te Ching, but the rest discuss creation in one aspect or another.


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                            brianwelsch wrote: seeing a pattern of interest at all?) I don't know about Tao te Ching, but the rest discuss creation in one aspect or another.


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                            I guess I'm in that "searching for meaning" mode. :-O BW


                            "Get up and open your eyes. Don't let yourself ever fall down.
                            Get through it and learn how to fly. I know you will find a way...
                            Today"
                            -Days of the New

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                              I've never read any books on either, but an Amazon search came up with Code Complete, Second Edition in the top position. Coincidentally, I'm waiting for payday in order to buy this book. Perhaps anyone who owns it already might like to comment ? Christian I have several lifelong friends that are New Yorkers but I have always gravitated toward the weirdo's. - Richard Stringer

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                              mate, you're one of the CP people who ought to be _writing_ the bloody books, not reading them :) Bryce --- To paraphrase Fred Dagg - the views expressed in this post are bloody good ones. --
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