Some experience with Subversion
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Mark Tutt wrote: While working out of the office I may not be able connect to the Subversion server to find out why a revision was made... Why wouldn't you be able to access the subversion server? Does your workplace not have a static IP address?
Working at a customer site where I can't get on their network due to security nuts? Lots of places have digital phone lines everywhere, and frown on your unplugging their fax machine to get on the web... Working at a coffeeshop/weekend cabin/park with no internet access? There are times when you've got to work unplugged. People seem to forget that these days... I've got one app I use that starts up and stalls for more than a minute while it tries to display the latest updates and alerts from their web site. No option to turn it off. :doh:
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What do large-scale enterprises use?
Shog9
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Here, we use Subversion, and some ClearCase. Some legacy stuff is still in PVCS. Before Subversion, the particular area that now uses it used to have a home-grown solution. Most open source hosting (with the exception of Anders' site :) ) is either CVS or Subversion. I'd also be curious to see what Microsoft's new enterprise solution is going to look like, too. Rumor has it what they use internally is something like that... but who knows. An expert is somebody who learns more and more about less and less, until he knows absolutely everything about nothing.
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Ok, it's fortunately getting better then :) Navin wrote: I have nothing against Vault... but generally large-scale enterprises don't use it. What do you see them use? Navin wrote: Why, I don't know... Maybe because Vault is a fairly new product, and large scale enterprises don't change software as easily as smaller places ;) - Anders Bill's Bar
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I'll agree with one big thing he wrote... the fact that Subversion actually revisions *directories* and not just files is a killer feature. I don't know if I could go back to using any VCS that doesn't have this feature now... An expert is somebody who learns more and more about less and less, until he knows absolutely everything about nothing.
Navin wrote: the fact that Subversion actually revisions *directories* and not just files is a killer feature. Sounds nice. I'm guessing this is a whole lot more proper than SourceSafe's "label" feature...?
Shog9
I'm not the Jack of Diamonds... I'm not the six of spades. I don't know what you thought; I'm not your astronaut...
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Okay, it's getting better then :) Back when I looked at it, the install sucked just as much as CVS ;) - Anders Bill's Bar
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Yup, it used to be a PITA* but has improved a lot. TortoiseSVN is also a really good interface for it. * not the food. regards, Paul Watson South Africa The Code Project Pope Pius II said "The only prescription is more cowbell. "
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Here, we use Subversion, and some ClearCase. Some legacy stuff is still in PVCS. Before Subversion, the particular area that now uses it used to have a home-grown solution. Most open source hosting (with the exception of Anders' site :) ) is either CVS or Subversion. I'd also be curious to see what Microsoft's new enterprise solution is going to look like, too. Rumor has it what they use internally is something like that... but who knows. An expert is somebody who learns more and more about less and less, until he knows absolutely everything about nothing.
At work, we use StarTeam (Originally from StarBase) and we very are happy with it. I know that the tool is expensive, but it suits to our needs like a glove to our hands, we are a bunch of teams across the globe and we have no problem with it. ... mmm... ClearCase remembers me the old dark ages as sysadmin, that caused me a lot of nightmares to support...(e.g. backup and restore, etc). ...About PVCS, I also had realy bad experience. We had a problem that the tool was corrupting some of the files under revision-control due that we were working on a mixed environment (Unix and PC), we paid a lot of money for its support to discover that most of their code was copied from GNU's RCS 6.3 (Same old bugs with branches) breaking the GPL license RCS has.. then we moved to CVS that with almost no effort was tailored to our needs with mixed Unix and PC enviroments. (I'm talking about 5 or 6 years ago). CVS is very popular in open-source environments and it is nice to see that other tools are also being created, to fill the empty space that CVS does not cover. I will take a look now on Vault :) Just wanted to share my experience on this item.
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Yup, it used to be a PITA* but has improved a lot. TortoiseSVN is also a really good interface for it. * not the food. regards, Paul Watson South Africa The Code Project Pope Pius II said "The only prescription is more cowbell. "
Paul Watson wrote: TortoiseSVN is also a really good interface for it. Unfortunately it's not possible to sort on status with either TortoiseSVN nor TortoiseCVS. That's why I really want SVN-tool similar to that of WinCVS which has features such as filtering, flattening and sorting (on other things than the ordinary file system data). I really like flattening as it allows me to flatten an entire directory structure. If I then sort on status, I will immediately see all files which I have modified in one list - I will not forget to check in any changes. But I must say that Tortoise{SVN, CVS} is a killer app when working with only one module at a time. -- My name in Katakana is ヨレゲン. My name in German is Jörgen. I blog too now[^]
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Paul Watson wrote: TortoiseSVN is also a really good interface for it. Unfortunately it's not possible to sort on status with either TortoiseSVN nor TortoiseCVS. That's why I really want SVN-tool similar to that of WinCVS which has features such as filtering, flattening and sorting (on other things than the ordinary file system data). I really like flattening as it allows me to flatten an entire directory structure. If I then sort on status, I will immediately see all files which I have modified in one list - I will not forget to check in any changes. But I must say that Tortoise{SVN, CVS} is a killer app when working with only one module at a time. -- My name in Katakana is ヨレゲン. My name in German is Jörgen. I blog too now[^]
Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: Unfortunately it's not possible to sort on status with either TortoiseSVN TSVN actually has column providers for explorer, which makes it possible to have a status column, that is sortable like any other explorer column.
MBH
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Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: Unfortunately it's not possible to sort on status with either TortoiseSVN TSVN actually has column providers for explorer, which makes it possible to have a status column, that is sortable like any other explorer column.
MBH
Really?? Where do you activate it? -- My name in Katakana is ヨレゲン. My name in German is Jörgen. I blog too now[^]
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Really?? Where do you activate it? -- My name in Katakana is ヨレゲン. My name in German is Jörgen. I blog too now[^]
In Explorer listview, right-click on the header to get a list of available columns, Select 'More' at the bottom, You should be able to locate some TSVN columns to use... Dunno if it requires WinXP to work though...
MBH
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In Explorer listview, right-click on the header to get a list of available columns, Select 'More' at the bottom, You should be able to locate some TSVN columns to use... Dunno if it requires WinXP to work though...
MBH
It works splendidly in both TortoiseSVN and TortoiseCVS. Thank you! -- My name in Katakana is ヨレゲン. My name in German is Jörgen. I blog too now[^]