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  • A Anna Jayne Metcalfe

    Edbert P. wrote: I believe you meant shouldn't, Anna. Oops! It should have read "no infant...", but a broken <b> tag stopped it appearing. Fixed now. :-O Edbert P. wrote: I'm glad my parents didn't though, because I've never had problems with being uncircumcised. Given what happened to me in 2003, I'd have been pretty annoyed if I'd have been circumcised at birth! ; Anna :rose: Riverblade Ltd - Software Consultancy Services Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work.

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    jan larsen
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    Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote: Given what happened to me in 2003, I'd have been pretty annoyed if I'd have been circumcised at birth! Yeah, that's extreme circumcision :-D "After all it's just text at the end of the day. - Colin Davies "For example, when a VB programmer comes to my house, they may say 'does your pool need cleaning, sir ?' " - Christian Graus

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    • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

      Tomaž Štih wrote: I propose you add reducing oral sexual pleasure to your argument list against circumcision. How would you know the difference if you were circumcised as a child? Unless of course... -- My name in Katakana is ヨルゲン. My name in German is Jörgen. My name in Mandarin/Kanji is 乔尔根 西格瓦德森. I blog too now[^]

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      Tomaz Stih 0
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      When a girl does fellatio in particular way there is certain feeling of pleasure that I can't imagine without the part that provides it. :rolleyes: Tomaž

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      • C Colin Angus Mackay

        Shog9 wrote: he was also big into Neuro-Linguistic Programming as a technique to pick up women You have to be kidding me. :laugh:


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        David Wulff
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        Oh no, he was a very big fan of NLP. I recall him giving lectures on its correct application and being a member of some dedicated web sites. :rolleyes:


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        • C Colin Angus Mackay

          Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote: traditionally, it's been said that circumsizing a kid is better than not. I've never heard that. It must be a cultural thing rather than based in fact.


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          Bassam Abdul Baki
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          As far as I know, it's still popular among doctors in the U.S. and other modern nations, and most cultures support it too, so it can't be just a cultural thing. I have yet to speak to a doctor who's said don't do it. You have nothing to gain from it. Even the pamphlets that we got from the hospital while my wife was pregnant recommended circumcision. They didn't say it would save his life, but the pros (hygeine, chances of cancer and all) were more than the cons. "For that one fraction of a second, you were open to options you would never have considered. That is the exploration that awaits you. Not mapping stars and studying nebula, but charting the unknown possibilities of existence." - Q (Star Trek: The Next Generation) ^ Blog

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          • B Bassam Abdul Baki

            As far as I know, it's still popular among doctors in the U.S. and other modern nations, and most cultures support it too, so it can't be just a cultural thing. I have yet to speak to a doctor who's said don't do it. You have nothing to gain from it. Even the pamphlets that we got from the hospital while my wife was pregnant recommended circumcision. They didn't say it would save his life, but the pros (hygeine, chances of cancer and all) were more than the cons. "For that one fraction of a second, you were open to options you would never have considered. That is the exploration that awaits you. Not mapping stars and studying nebula, but charting the unknown possibilities of existence." - Q (Star Trek: The Next Generation) ^ Blog

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            Colin Angus Mackay
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            Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote: the U.S. and other modern nations What do you regard as a "modern nation"? One that is westernised? Or a "New World" nation like Australia, Canada, New Zealand and the US? From the responses I see that most Europeans are against the idea of circumcision.


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              Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote: the U.S. and other modern nations What do you regard as a "modern nation"? One that is westernised? Or a "New World" nation like Australia, Canada, New Zealand and the US? From the responses I see that most Europeans are against the idea of circumcision.


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              Bassam Abdul Baki
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              Certainly not westernized, but any nation that keeps up-to-date on the latest medical and technological break-throughs. New World sounds too much like New Order. Like I said, here in the U.S., it is still a very popular practice and from my family and friends in Europe and abroad, it seems to be there too. Maybe I only meet circumisized people for some reason. :-D "For that one fraction of a second, you were open to options you would never have considered. That is the exploration that awaits you. Not mapping stars and studying nebula, but charting the unknown possibilities of existence." - Q (Star Trek: The Next Generation) ^ Blog

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              • B Bassam Abdul Baki

                Certainly not westernized, but any nation that keeps up-to-date on the latest medical and technological break-throughs. New World sounds too much like New Order. Like I said, here in the U.S., it is still a very popular practice and from my family and friends in Europe and abroad, it seems to be there too. Maybe I only meet circumisized people for some reason. :-D "For that one fraction of a second, you were open to options you would never have considered. That is the exploration that awaits you. Not mapping stars and studying nebula, but charting the unknown possibilities of existence." - Q (Star Trek: The Next Generation) ^ Blog

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                Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote: but any nation that keeps up-to-date on the latest medical and technological break-throughs Here in the UK I am not aware that it is a popular practice. Until only a few years ago I thought it was only done for two reasons. First, the religion of the parents mandates it. Second, purely on medical grounds because it is causing an immediate problem. Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote: Maybe I only meet circumisized people for some reason :omg: Do you often check? ;P Just kidding


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                • C Colin Angus Mackay

                  Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote: but any nation that keeps up-to-date on the latest medical and technological break-throughs Here in the UK I am not aware that it is a popular practice. Until only a few years ago I thought it was only done for two reasons. First, the religion of the parents mandates it. Second, purely on medical grounds because it is causing an immediate problem. Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote: Maybe I only meet circumisized people for some reason :omg: Do you often check? ;P Just kidding


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                  Bassam Abdul Baki
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                  Colin Angus Mackay wrote: Do you often check? Just kidding Word of mouth only. No pun intended. Ewww. ;P "For that one fraction of a second, you were open to options you would never have considered. That is the exploration that awaits you. Not mapping stars and studying nebula, but charting the unknown possibilities of existence." - Q (Star Trek: The Next Generation) ^ Blog

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                  • M Megan Forbes

                    Having been told that the baby we're expecting in May is a little boy this is obviously a question we need to resolve in our own minds, where the outcome hopefully answers "what is best for the child". Neither mine nor Brendan's families have ever had their sons circumcised, but as we're more concerned with health than cosmetic issues this alone would not be a reason for avoiding it. We first started to look into the pro's and con's in SA where it seems that it is pushed as a good choice. The literature our SA doctor provided us with stated things like hygeine and a good preventative of penile cancer in later life. However, I'm pretty sure that one of the reasons it's recommended to parents over there is an attempt to slow down deaths and amputations at "initiation schools" for teenagers in future years. In the UK there doesn't seem to be too much of an opinion (at least at our hospital) beyond "why bother". Not exactly a strong argument when taking a decision on part of your childs future. However, after looking into it a little further there do seem to be people vehemently opposed to it. Some claim that the preventative effect for penile cancer has never been proven, and that accidents happen on babies each year which result in the child being raised as a girl (is this really possible in the 21st century?!) - obviously an unacceptable situation if true. Right now we are steering towards leaving the baby uncut, especially as it seems that hygeine will not be affected. Apparently the foreskin should never be pushed back until the boy is old enough to do it himself, and until that age it's not possible for dirt to get trapped underneath anyway as it hasn't fully separated yet. Are there any true arguments for having this operation done? Would we be letting our son down by not having the op? As most of you here are male, and many are fathers I'd be very interested to hear any sides to the argument which should be weighed up before a final decision is taken. Just one of many confusing decisions when embarking upon the journey to parenthood :)


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                    Paul Belikian
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                    Please don't do it. There was a time when it was a good thing to do i.e. "hygeine and a good preventative of penile cancer in later life", but in today's world it's not needed anymore. Over here in the US, it's still done "in the name of health" but it just allows the doctors to make an extra hundred bucks or so and not to really protect the child. Congratulations on your future parenthood!

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