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  • B bneacetp

    Do you have some kind of grudge against me or what? Happy Programming and may God bless! "Your coding practices might be buggy, but your code is always right." Internet::WWW::CodeProject::bneacetp N-Tech Productions http://www.n-tp.com/

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    No...why? Admittedly I'm an agnostic so I don't really understand how these things work, but .... ;)

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    • M Member 96

      bneacetp wrote: Happy Programming and may God bless As it appears that you have God's ear on things perhaps you could shoot a little higher, such as ending disease and poverty? (just a suggestion)

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      Shog9 0
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      That'd be a tad hypocritical, wouldn't it? Unless he's a "Miss America" contestant on the side... :)

      Shog9

      I'm not the Jack of Diamonds... I'm not the six of spades. I don't know what you thought; I'm not your astronaut...

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      • C Christian Graus

        ace1664 wrote: Developement with mcf is time consuming You mean MFC ? What does that have to do with C++ ? I hope C++ doesn't die. If it does, C# and VB.NET will die, as there'll be no language to write the compilers in. Christian I have several lifelong friends that are New Yorkers but I have always gravitated toward the weirdo's. - Richard Stringer

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        Jeremy Falcon
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        Christian Graus wrote: I hope C++ doesn't die. If it does, C# and VB.NET will die, as there'll be no language to write the compilers in. LMAO! Jeremy Falcon

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          I program c++ application every day as a hobby. C++ is a well designed languadge but there are some problems with it's structure. - Pointers can acces every byte in memory, that don't alow compilator to use registers the best way. Java sometimes does better - Run time information doesn't describe classe's members, whitch could be usefull for serialisation - Templates syntax can't describe advenced specification for the class whitch will be hosted at compilation time - Developement with mcf is time consuming C++ looks more and more limitated... Is it going to die ?:confused: Ace

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          Stuart van Weele
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          ace1664 wrote: - Pointers can acces every byte in memory, that don't alow compilator to use registers the best way. Java sometimes does better Not true. Compilers with aggressive optimization can do a great job. ace1664 wrote: Run time information doesn't describe classe's members, whitch could be usefull for serialisation Thats the job of the class / library, not the language. ace1664 wrote: Templates syntax can't describe advenced specification for the class whitch will be hosted at compilation time I have know idea what you are trying to say here... ace1664 wrote: Developement with mcf is time consuming MFC is not C++, it's a library for Windows development. It's also a fine tool once you scale the learning cliff.

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          • L Lost User

            Whoa, prime example of how right-wing fundies don't have the market cornered on knee-jerk reactionary comments. Unless you were kidding like Colin said, but I didn't really get that from your comment - it's like responding to "have a nice day" with "how is that possible with all the terrible things in the world GRAAAUGH" Have a nice day, though! And personally, I just wanted to use the term "knee-jerk reactionary comment" because i think it sounds cool. - F

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            Typical knee-jerk-reactionary comment from the type of person that likes to say "have a nice day"! ;P

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            • A ace1664

              I program c++ application every day as a hobby. C++ is a well designed languadge but there are some problems with it's structure. - Pointers can acces every byte in memory, that don't alow compilator to use registers the best way. Java sometimes does better - Run time information doesn't describe classe's members, whitch could be usefull for serialisation - Templates syntax can't describe advenced specification for the class whitch will be hosted at compilation time - Developement with mcf is time consuming C++ looks more and more limitated... Is it going to die ?:confused: Ace

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              Arch Stanton
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              Look at it this way: We've been trying to kill FORTRAN for decades and though we've tried everything from cyanide in its milkshakes to a gallon of gasoline and a match, it continues to show up in undergrad engineering classes and the dark hallways of companies. Like ants at a picnic or roaches after a nuclear blast, C++, like FORTRAN, will be around long after it has worn out its welcome and its usefulness. We will all see a day when C++, FORTRAN and the like will no longer be an issue for us, and that, my friends, will be the day that our prepaid funeral arrangements will finally be put to good use. Program in whatever you think is fun when doing it as a hobby. ...even if it is a language that garners snickers when seen on a resume or bittersweet memories of that first software job out of college during the Eisenhower administration when mentioned to the elderly. The important thing is that you will be honing your skills as an artist, and this is what will mean something after you've spent 20 minutes learning the syntax of the language du jour. Let's face it, even Latin is still around. E

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              • R Richard Stringer

                ace1664 wrote: Is it going to die ? NO Richard "Under certain circumstances, profanity provides a relief denied even to prayer --Mark Twain (1835 - 1910)

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                I agree. With you.


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                • A ace1664

                  I program c++ application every day as a hobby. C++ is a well designed languadge but there are some problems with it's structure. - Pointers can acces every byte in memory, that don't alow compilator to use registers the best way. Java sometimes does better - Run time information doesn't describe classe's members, whitch could be usefull for serialisation - Templates syntax can't describe advenced specification for the class whitch will be hosted at compilation time - Developement with mcf is time consuming C++ looks more and more limitated... Is it going to die ?:confused: Ace

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                  There is not much to challenge C++ - Java and C# are too slow for many applications (games, graphics intensive) and I don't know many large corps that program in it. For server-side software it is out of the picture, but for standalone applications I would say it is still the only choice, for anything but toy applications. 8bit C is still being used on microcontrollers.


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                  • A ace1664

                    I program c++ application every day as a hobby. C++ is a well designed languadge but there are some problems with it's structure. - Pointers can acces every byte in memory, that don't alow compilator to use registers the best way. Java sometimes does better - Run time information doesn't describe classe's members, whitch could be usefull for serialisation - Templates syntax can't describe advenced specification for the class whitch will be hosted at compilation time - Developement with mcf is time consuming C++ looks more and more limitated... Is it going to die ?:confused: Ace

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                    Yes, C++ will most certainly die. Currently, it is scheduled to die within 10 years of the last lines of COBOL being removed from all Production systems across the world. This event itself will be predated by at least 5 years by the removal of the last line of FORTRAN from all Productions systems across the world. ;) -- Russell Morris "So, broccoli, mother says you're good for me... but I'm afraid I'm no good for you!" - Stewy

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                    • J Jeremy Falcon

                      Christian Graus wrote: I hope C++ doesn't die. If it does, C# and VB.NET will die, as there'll be no language to write the compilers in. LMAO! Jeremy Falcon

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                      Nish Nishant
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                      I have a VC++ t-shirt (given me by Chris M a couple years ago) that has "My compiler compiled yours" on its backside. Whenever people who were enamoured by C# told me that C++ is gonna die soon, and I happen to be wearing this t-shirt, I'd turn around and point at the text and keep quiet. I'd wait till they got it and then smile, a very short smile and walk away slowly :-D

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                      • A ace1664

                        I program c++ application every day as a hobby. C++ is a well designed languadge but there are some problems with it's structure. - Pointers can acces every byte in memory, that don't alow compilator to use registers the best way. Java sometimes does better - Run time information doesn't describe classe's members, whitch could be usefull for serialisation - Templates syntax can't describe advenced specification for the class whitch will be hosted at compilation time - Developement with mcf is time consuming C++ looks more and more limitated... Is it going to die ?:confused: Ace

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                        Rocky Moore
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                        Well, not for a long time.. Look, we still have BASIC and we have tried to kill it for decades ;) Rocky <>< Photo Diet?[^]

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                        • A Arch Stanton

                          Look at it this way: We've been trying to kill FORTRAN for decades and though we've tried everything from cyanide in its milkshakes to a gallon of gasoline and a match, it continues to show up in undergrad engineering classes and the dark hallways of companies. Like ants at a picnic or roaches after a nuclear blast, C++, like FORTRAN, will be around long after it has worn out its welcome and its usefulness. We will all see a day when C++, FORTRAN and the like will no longer be an issue for us, and that, my friends, will be the day that our prepaid funeral arrangements will finally be put to good use. Program in whatever you think is fun when doing it as a hobby. ...even if it is a language that garners snickers when seen on a resume or bittersweet memories of that first software job out of college during the Eisenhower administration when mentioned to the elderly. The important thing is that you will be honing your skills as an artist, and this is what will mean something after you've spent 20 minutes learning the syntax of the language du jour. Let's face it, even Latin is still around. E

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                          Vivi Chellappa
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                          Arch Stanton wrote: Like ants at a picnic or roaches after a nuclear blast, C++, like FORTRAN, will be around long Heck, nuclear blast simulations ARE written in Fortran! Los Alamos and Lawrence Livermore Laboratories are two big users of Fortran. :laugh:

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                          • D David Wulff

                            Eventually, yes, when machines start writing their own code and we can interface with them using our brain, but for the forseable future I wouldn't start worrying.


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                            Paul Watson
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                            What will the machines write in? regards, Paul Watson South Africa The Code Project Pope Pius II said "The only prescription is more cowbell. "

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                              What will the machines write in? regards, Paul Watson South Africa The Code Project Pope Pius II said "The only prescription is more cowbell. "

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                              David Wulff
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                              Machine code?


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                                Machine code?


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                                Paul Watson
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                                What are the machines written in? Are they evolved from simple machine-code machines or full-on human written C++ apps? regards, Paul Watson South Africa The Code Project Pope Pius II said "The only prescription is more cowbell. "

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                                • A ace1664

                                  I program c++ application every day as a hobby. C++ is a well designed languadge but there are some problems with it's structure. - Pointers can acces every byte in memory, that don't alow compilator to use registers the best way. Java sometimes does better - Run time information doesn't describe classe's members, whitch could be usefull for serialisation - Templates syntax can't describe advenced specification for the class whitch will be hosted at compilation time - Developement with mcf is time consuming C++ looks more and more limitated... Is it going to die ?:confused: Ace

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                                  ace1664 wrote: I program c++ application every day as a hobby. C++ is a well designed languadge but there are some problems with it's structure. You forgot to add "...and I've been doing it for about a week." - Pointers can acces every byte in memory, that don't alow compilator to use registers the best way. You can do that with Pascal, too. I guess that makes Pascal equally as "dangerous". Is the "compilator" related to Arnold? Java sometimes does better Java doesn't do ANYTHING better than C++. - Run time information doesn't describe classe's members, whitch could be usefull for serialisation If you correctly implement the serialization stuff in your class, you don't NEED to know the data members. Besides that, the run-timer info only describes the object type, not it's members. - Templates syntax can't describe advenced specification for the class whitch will be hosted at compilation time I'm sorry - I dozed off. What the the hell are you talking about? - Developement with mcf is time consuming Yep, you've only been doing C++ for about a week. C++ looks more and more limitated... I think you should have warned us that you're a standup comedian. I was taking a sip of my coffee when I read this and blew most of it outa my nose and onto my keyboard. ------- sig starts "I've heard some drivers saying, 'We're going too fast here...'. If you're not here to race, go the hell home - don't come here and grumble about going too fast. Why don't you tie a kerosene rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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